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Secretary Clinton prohibited Marines from providing security at any American diplomatic installation in Libya..

Mrs. Clinton one of the 1960 radicals who hated anything in uniform....carried that with her into the White House....shows and has shown utter distant for anything pertaining to law enforcement. The spots on this woman have not changed. The deaths of these warriors and patriots lay at her New Way feet.

1 posted on 09/16/2012 11:55:57 AM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe

....and the msm continues to be like the 3 monkeys on the subject. Hear no evil, see no evil and speak no evil.


2 posted on 09/16/2012 11:57:44 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: yoe

The whole problem here was overconfidence and negligence, of course, plus our institutional incompatibilities with whats needed to get the job done in these other cultures.

T.E. Lawrence, for one, had the knowledge and foresight and leeway to create his own personally loyal Bedouin security detail, which he selected and recruited himself using his knowledge of clan loyalties. This sort of thing squares the circle of scary foreigners (Marines, Blackwater) providing security but annoying the locals vs unreliable and compromised local officials. That sort of thing has been bureaucratized out of the options available to our modern Lawrences.

And for that matter our representation in these places needs to be less bureaucratic and more proconsular. The British back in the day knew their business. Their people were usually given blanket authority to make deals, bribe officials, subsidize tribes, and even recruit private armies.


3 posted on 09/16/2012 12:04:15 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: yoe


4 posted on 09/16/2012 12:07:17 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: yoe

The Halls of Montezuma must be just as unsafe. The Marines need a new hymn. And a new president.


5 posted on 09/16/2012 12:16:18 PM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: yoe

Looks like Hillary is the scapegoat on this. The President is Commander in Chief...It’s his rules.


6 posted on 09/16/2012 12:17:59 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: yoe
no Marines are stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli

Security concerns aside, how can someone have a US embassy without Marines? As a teenager I spent hours in the US embassy in Madrid, just looking/admiring/staring at the Marines on guard duty. To me they represented all that America stood for, and they were great looking to boot! An embassy without Marines? No way!

7 posted on 09/16/2012 12:39:48 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: yoe

So essentially it was Back Hawk Down, minus US forces...

Call it a, “lib upgrade”...


8 posted on 09/16/2012 12:47:39 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: yoe
IF the Marines had been there ......

My Rifle: The Creed of a US Marine
by Major General William H. Rupertus (USMC, Ret.)
(written following the attack on Pearl Harbor)

This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

My rifle is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.

My rifle, without me, is useless. Without my rifle, I am useless. I must fire my rifle true. I must shoot straighter than my enemy who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will...

My rifle and myself know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we fire, the noise of our burst, nor the smoke we make. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit...

My rifle is human, even as I, because it is my life. Thus, I will learn it as a brother. I will learn its weaknesses, its strength, its parts, its accessories, its sights and its barrel. I will ever guard it against the ravages of weather and damage as I will ever guard my legs, my arms, my eyes and my heart against damage. I will keep my rifle clean and ready. We will become part of each other. We will...

Before God, I swear this creed. My rifle and myself are the defenders of my country. We are the masters of our enemy. We are the saviors of my life.

So be it, until victory is America's and there is no enemy, but peace!

Note: a former Marine asked a local radio station host (in my area) to read this Saturday morning. He said they recited this creed every morning while they were training.

10 posted on 09/16/2012 1:01:40 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Saoirise
Obama and Hillary left those people as sitting ducks and ripe for an attack. Such gross negligence is without equal and should be considered criminal.

A blood stained pillar gives a hint at what happened to those poor people. Someone attempted to cling to the column for dear life, and as you can see from the bloody trail, was pried away and taken to their brutal death by the murderers.

(picture at link below)

http://www.bob-owens.com/2012/09/bloody-handprints-photos-that-define-a-failed-presidency/

12 posted on 09/16/2012 1:22:27 PM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: yoe
I want a State Department that cares more if my sensibilities are offended not some barbarian middle eastern muzzies. It seems Foggy Bottom needs a boot up their @@@ so they remember who the h@ll they serve.
13 posted on 09/16/2012 1:34:57 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Yardstick

No, it didn’t ...


16 posted on 09/16/2012 1:49:22 PM PDT by x
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Path to 9-11-2013


18 posted on 09/16/2012 1:53:36 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: yoe

The thing we keep forgetting is the same thing Clint Eastwood said. Hillary Clinton works for me and you. She’s not some kind of privileged queen. I pay her salary. She’s proven herself to be a negligent incompetent and she needs to be dismissed. This kind of incompetence is dangerous. We have four dead Americans including a United States Ambassador who represented us. How many more Americans are going to have to die before this Queen of Incompetence is dismissed?


21 posted on 09/16/2012 2:35:28 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: yoe
i was always under the impression that the ROE were rules that stipulated when return fire was authorized, NOT when embassy guards could be deployed...
25 posted on 09/16/2012 3:02:57 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: yoe
BREAKING: Video Purports To Show US Ambassador Dragged From Benghazi Consulate

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/09/16/BREAKING-Video-Purports-To-Show-Ambassador-In-Libya

26 posted on 09/16/2012 3:25:41 PM PDT by PghBaldy (I am sick of Obama's and Hillary's apologies to muslims, especially after 11 September 2012.)
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To: yoe

Media says “yawn,” and continues it’s non-stop investigation into Romney’s press release.


30 posted on 09/17/2012 5:17:25 AM PDT by chessplayer
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