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A U.S. Envoy Who Plunged Into Arab Life
The NY Times ^
| September 15, 2012
| STEVEN ERLANGER
Posted on 09/15/2012 7:13:31 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: RitchieAprile
“northern Californian explains a lot. Let me guess, Marin County.
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posted on
09/15/2012 7:14:56 PM PDT
by
Lurker
(Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
To: RitchieAprile
And at the end, Arab life apparently plunged into him.
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posted on
09/15/2012 7:15:57 PM PDT
by
RichInOC
("In the name of Allah, The Inexorable, The Irresistible...")
To: Lurker
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posted on
09/15/2012 7:17:15 PM PDT
by
zerosix
(Native sunflower)
To: RitchieAprile
Reminds me of the frog and the scorpion..
To: RitchieAprile
>> He traded personal risk for personal contact.
So it was inevitable. /s
Nothing to see here, move along...
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posted on
09/15/2012 7:18:29 PM PDT
by
Gene Eric
(Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
To: RitchieAprile
Do you s’pose he fancied himself a new T.E. Lawrence?
To: RitchieAprile
Not surprisingly, the evidence that he was gay is ignored by the Times, as if that fact would have no bearing on what happened to him.
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posted on
09/15/2012 7:19:58 PM PDT
by
Misterioso
(Trying to explain music is like trying to dance architecture. -- Thelonious Monk)
To: shhrubbery!
In the end, he definitely was, so to speak.
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posted on
09/15/2012 7:21:32 PM PDT
by
2ndDivisionVet
(You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
To: shhrubbery!
Was Lawrence a flaming homo?
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posted on
09/15/2012 7:22:44 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Being deceived can be cured.)
To: shhrubbery!
Possibly.
Old T.E. Lawrence would likely have been gay in todays culture.
Arab culture has a strange appeal to many people like that.
There are plenty of similar cases among British officials.
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posted on
09/15/2012 7:23:49 PM PDT
by
buwaya
To: Lurker
No Piedmont and later Oakland, where his 90 yrs mother still live.
To: RitchieAprile
You mean, Arab life plunged into him. Fatally.
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posted on
09/15/2012 7:26:16 PM PDT
by
Hardraade
(http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
To: Lurker
Nevada, Yolo and Alameda are in there, but I am not sure he ever lived in Marin.
To: RichInOC
I think the guy was a well-intentioned individual who thought that by ingratiating himself with the Libyan populace, they would see that he was only there to help their countrymen. Apparently, he didn’t read the Koran very thoroughly or if at all. A useful martyr for the SD and Obama.
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09/15/2012 7:39:32 PM PDT
by
princeofdarkness
(The Obama Administration is circling the wagons. But the Truth Indians are using flaming arrows.)
To: Misterioso
The rags don't really care what your orientation is if they catch you because they aren't going to ask for your permission; it's just a power trip and dominance thing to them- and they do like blonde males. Just look at Mogadishu.
If you think these people would treat you any different if you got shot down in crowd of hundreds you're as starry-eyed as he.
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posted on
09/15/2012 7:39:32 PM PDT
by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
To: RitchieAprile
does anyone suppose the lybians knew he was gay ?
Is the state dept. in their right mind by sending a gay ambassador to a muslim country ?
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posted on
09/15/2012 7:40:55 PM PDT
by
stylin19a
(Obama -> Ransom "Rance" Stoddard)
To: Lurker
He was born in Grass Valley, California. His mother was a cellist for the Marin symphony orchestra.
According to Wikipedia he was a Peace Corps volunteer in Morocco for two years so that may be where he learned Arabic.
He had a BA in history which is a good backgroud for the foreign service. Also it helps to know an exotic language. But maybe the lesson is to pick an exotic language whose speakers are not given to attacking embassies and murdering people.
To: RitchieAprile
“Chris had fallen in love with Libya’s revolution. At the end, those very forces whose influence he thought would be curbed had claimed his life.”
To: RitchieAprile
Sounds like the guy up in Alaska who thought he could be friends with the bears.
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posted on
09/15/2012 7:51:54 PM PDT
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Ditto
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