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To: Carry_Okie
You're shifting the focus from our government failing to protect us from the bad guys to the government targeting us, the good guys. That's not on point to this discussion, but a valid concern nonetheless.

The video lacks specifics and the lawyer in the video indicates that searches here have only come into play in follow-up investigations (FBI agents storming the house with guns drawn needs explanation for instance (for example, did they have a valid warrant or reasonably believe there was an emergency?). Government officials must have performed a search (or seizure) of one's "person, house, papers or effects" to have implicated the Fourth Amendment. Generally, a "search" must involve violating one's "reasonable expectation of privacy" which is determined based on the specific facts of the circumstances.

79 posted on 09/16/2012 6:17:45 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew
Government officials must have performed a search (or seizure) of one's "person, house, papers or effects" to have implicated the Fourth Amendment. Generally, a "search" must involve violating one's "reasonable expectation of privacy" which is determined based on the specific facts of the circumstances.

By this action, government is using a police power to take from me a use of my personal effects without my permission. Effectively, it is a violation of property rights, that my communications are not being used in the way that I intend. Nor do I wish to hear that I gave "permission" when I chose to communicate over a network when the language was buried twelve miles deep in legalese because the service I used was coerced by State licensure.

85 posted on 09/16/2012 7:34:03 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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