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To: PapaNew
Government officials must have performed a search (or seizure) of one's "person, house, papers or effects" to have implicated the Fourth Amendment. Generally, a "search" must involve violating one's "reasonable expectation of privacy" which is determined based on the specific facts of the circumstances.

By this action, government is using a police power to take from me a use of my personal effects without my permission. Effectively, it is a violation of property rights, that my communications are not being used in the way that I intend. Nor do I wish to hear that I gave "permission" when I chose to communicate over a network when the language was buried twelve miles deep in legalese because the service I used was coerced by State licensure.

85 posted on 09/16/2012 7:34:03 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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BTW, the point of citing the NSA in my post was this: WE need to take out the terrorists in this country. That is what the Second Amendment militia is for. If we rely instead upon police, police is what we will have, and liberty we will have not.


86 posted on 09/16/2012 7:42:47 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: PapaNew

BTW, the point of citing the NSA in my post was this: WE need to take out the terrorists in this country. That is what the Second Amendment militia is for. If we rely instead upon police, police is what we will have, and liberty we will have not.


87 posted on 09/16/2012 7:43:15 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: Carry_Okie
when I chose to communicate over a network

The issue would be, do you have what people would think would be a reasonable expectation that your communication over the network is private.

89 posted on 09/16/2012 8:04:49 AM PDT by PapaNew
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