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Egypt mediators try to remove Salafist Bedouin from MFO base. US force under siege
Debka ^ | 9/15/12

Posted on 09/15/2012 7:38:31 AM PDT by Dave346

Contrary to Egyptian claims to be in control of the Multinational Force in northern Sinai base after its invasion by Salafist Bedouin gunmen Friday night, all they had managed to do by Saturday morning was to mediate between the New Zealand general who commands the base and the invaders on terms for their departure. The gunmen linked to al Qaeda still control the exits and entrances to the Al Ghora base, holding hundreds of US officers, soldiers and airmen to siege.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: egypt; hostage; israel; muslimbrotherhood; saudiarabia; siege; sinai; us; waronterror
US forces in the MFO are under hostage!!!!
1 posted on 09/15/2012 7:38:37 AM PDT by Dave346
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To: Dave346

Well, any NZ commander should be almost as virulently antisemitic as HAMAS itself. They can probably just have some coffee together.


2 posted on 09/15/2012 7:41:12 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: Dave346

Where are the B-52s from Diego Garcia?


3 posted on 09/15/2012 7:41:58 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: Dave346

A couple of A-10’s could take care of that in short order.


4 posted on 09/15/2012 7:44:40 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Dave346
If this story is true then the Domino Effect has kicked in. Egypt will eventually cancel the Camp David accords and step back to 1973. How can anybody ask the Israelis to compromise on any issues? Isn't it clear that you can't sign peace treaties with Muslims? Truth is out, no more withdrawls by the Israelis or the West, that's it, heels must be dug in or we are going to be swamped.
5 posted on 09/15/2012 7:45:22 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: Dave346

Hundreds of US officers, soldiers and airmen are there, and a bunch of Salafist Bedouins are holding them hostage.

This sounds unlikely, unless the US forces have been ordered NOT to fight!

That sounds like something BHO2 has decided.


6 posted on 09/15/2012 7:45:36 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Dave346

Who is Debka? Is this a reliable source or not?


7 posted on 09/15/2012 7:49:21 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Dave346

The MFO Base attack is an elusive story, I’ve pieced togeather that Egyptian Tanks are now stationed in the Sinai, against the Camp David accords, and yesterday there was a brief report from Haaretz of casualities.


8 posted on 09/15/2012 7:50:26 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Dave346

Time for Broken Arrow yet?


9 posted on 09/15/2012 7:52:32 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: SatinDoll

No, that’s how it works at North Camp. I was in MFO back in the 80’s, and our soldiers are at South Camp near Sharm el sheik while the office types are up north.

The best fighters in North Camp are from Fiji. (Seriously.)


10 posted on 09/15/2012 7:52:48 AM PDT by datura
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To: swamprebel

I spent a year of my life as a soldier stationed there. hopefully they make it out ok.

otherwise, they need to escape to Israel.


11 posted on 09/15/2012 7:53:17 AM PDT by And2TheRepublic (People like freedom of speech, but only when it's sweet to their ears.)
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To: And2TheRepublic

Thank You for your service.


12 posted on 09/15/2012 7:54:50 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: married21

I am not sure, I think it’s the Sorcha Fall site?


13 posted on 09/15/2012 7:54:50 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: swamprebel

According to debka, the terrorists infiltrated the camp, captured weapons and ammunition, and engaged in firefights with US forces. Probably impossible to know how many casualties until it’s over.


14 posted on 09/15/2012 7:54:59 AM PDT by Dave346
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To: Dave346

More details are available on the hebrew version of debka (need to translate this article into English):

www.debka.co.il/article/22354

Not sure why by debka gives a lot more details of things on the hebrew side of their website than the english side.


15 posted on 09/15/2012 7:57:54 AM PDT by Dave346
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To: autumnraine

No Sorcha Fall is supposed to be CIA disinfo author. Nothing whatsoever to do with debka which is an Israeli intelligence site.


16 posted on 09/15/2012 7:59:07 AM PDT by Dave346
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To: Dave346

Since the US contingent as all others are “Observers” their weapons and ammo are probably under lock and key waiting for new ROE (Read:rules of engagement) to come down from the White House.


17 posted on 09/15/2012 8:12:11 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Dave346

bump to follow story


18 posted on 09/15/2012 8:20:48 AM PDT by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: Dave346
debka which is an Israeli intelligence site.

Now that there is funny.

19 posted on 09/15/2012 8:26:41 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Dave346

It’a a DEBKA story so take with a large grain of salt.


20 posted on 09/15/2012 8:50:08 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again")
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To: fella; All

reported locally last night, there is a several hundred strong contingent of NM National Guard soldiers there.

I hope this goes better than the NM 200th Coastal Artillery.


21 posted on 09/15/2012 8:54:15 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: fella; All

Here’s some info from AP via Breitbart:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/09/14/Militants-attack-peacekeeper-base-in-Egypts-Sinai


22 posted on 09/15/2012 9:35:50 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Netz

If Egypt should attack Israel, a few bombs on the Aswan dams & a sunken ship in the Suez canal will effectively return Egypt to the stone age for decades.


23 posted on 09/15/2012 9:43:41 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Dave346

For your eyes only....


24 posted on 09/15/2012 10:02:48 AM PDT by Shady (The Tea Party is the Party of the American People, Working and creating wealth in SPITE of OBAMA!)
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To: Dave346

Bump


25 posted on 09/15/2012 10:17:29 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Mister Da

No need to sink the ships-—breaching the Aswan would return Egypt to pre-Noah, before-the-first-flood days. And those Egyptian dunderheads ought to realize how tenuous and vulnerable they really are and be a little polite/humble/responsive all around. A major part of the Aswan is dirt/rock fill and is extremely vulnerable to bunkerbuster types of shocks. Hitting that dam would get Nefertiti’s genes pretty much out of the human pool.


26 posted on 09/15/2012 11:12:27 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Dave346.
Contrary to Egyptian claims to be in control of the... Sinai base... all they had managed to do by Saturday morning was to mediate between the New Zealand general who commands the base and the invaders on terms for their departure. The gunmen linked to al Qaeda still control the exits and entrances to the Al Ghora base, holding hundreds of US officers, soldiers and airmen to siege.

27 posted on 09/15/2012 11:53:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Dave346

BUMP


28 posted on 09/15/2012 11:56:07 AM PDT by Mckenzie14
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To: cherokee1

My thought was that blocking the canal would cut off a major source of revenue for Egypt.


29 posted on 09/15/2012 1:37:21 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Dave346
Here's the google translation of that page: Link
30 posted on 09/15/2012 2:12:55 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Mister Da
a few bombs on the Aswan dams

Not that easy to breach an earthen dam...

See the film "Dam-busters"h to see how it was done to the two dams at the head of the Ruhr Valley in WWII

31 posted on 09/15/2012 5:40:45 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Where are the B-52s from Diego Garcia?


That would hurt their feelings, and Clinton has said we have to stop hurting their feelings.


32 posted on 09/15/2012 9:16:59 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Mister Da
My thought was that blocking the canal would cut off a major source of revenue for Egypt.

AQ would consider this excellent news. Millions of young Egyptian men, all muslims of course, will be angry at the USA and will sign up en masse as suicide bombers, foot soldiers, and every other kind of AQ helpers.

Hurting them in the wallet works only with economy-oriented societies, such as democracies (who rise and fall on news from stock exchanges) and dictatorships (who always complain that the last palace is not fully gilded yet.)

A theocracy of 6th century does not want money. Furthermore, money is dangerous to it because it separates people into classes and creates private interests. Egyptian computer scientists would want different things than egyptian goat herders. Fundamentalists want everyone to be illiterate goat herders; the only skill worth having is how to make IEDs. This is exactly why Communists were killing educated people in Russia, in China, in Cambodia... they couldn't allow smart competition.

33 posted on 09/15/2012 11:36:36 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Greysard
You have the ideology right, but you forget that greed & power are based on wealth. Weapons cost money. War cost money. Rulers expect to live in luxury. Mohammed was a looter, as well as a “prophet”.

The fundamentalist crap you refer to is for the PEOPLE, not the ruling class. The Nazis, the Commies, the aristocrats of pre-modern Europe, & every other potentate have been feeding the “stupid” class this stuff since government was invented.

It is ALWAYS about the money & power for those asking OTHERS to sacrifice everything.

Egypt is no Afghanistan. People have A/C, TV, cars, cell phones, clothes & cash to spend. Take that away & their society will collapse. Egypt is definitely a economy oriented society & that economy is hurting as a result of the radicals. I expect a backlash.

In a world war on multiple fronts with multiple enemies, attacking one enemy often satisfies another. Al-Qaeda has no love of Egypt. It is the enemy until radical islam takes over. From their perspective, chaos in Egypt is good until they take over. Anything that Israel does that weakens Egypt makes the takeover that much easier. If Israel avoids war because it might strengthen AQ, then it can simply wait to be destroyed.

Furthermore, AQ is a far less dangerous enemy that Egypt. AQ has no air force, navy, or army - Egypt does. Far more people have been killed in Israeli/Egypt wars that ALL the deaths caused by AQ.

There is not much Israel can do to stop a radical islam takeover in Egypt, but it can destroy the Egyptian economy with a few missiles or bombs; & the Egyptian military knows it. Without the economy to sustain the military, it rots, quickly. I doubt AQ cares, but Egyptians do.

As for million of radicalized Egyptians, they are just cheap cannon fodder for the Israelis. I've heard that threat many times & it just doesn't cause anybody any concern. Truth is, most muslim terrorists are cowardly thugs who run like rats when confronted.

34 posted on 09/16/2012 6:46:05 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: spokeshave
Not that easy to breach an earthen dam...

I'd think it would be easier than a concrete dam. If you can breach it at the top (where it's thinnest) down to the waterline, won't erosion do the rest?

35 posted on 09/16/2012 6:55:23 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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