Posted on 09/14/2012 5:59:30 AM PDT by marktwain
Just over two weeks before the 27th annual Gun Rights Policy Conference (GRPC) – sponsored by the Bellevue-based Second Amendment Foundation and Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms – convenes in Orlando, the Florida task force examining that state’s Stand Your Ground law has an interesting revelation.
The controversial law, passed seven years ago, has not produced any negative effect on the tourist trade. That had been one of the predictions from the anti-self-defense lobby during debate on the proposal in 2005.
But according to the Tampa Tribune, Bradenton Herald and Tampa Bay Times, a gathering of the Task Force this week also revealed that violent crime in the Sunshine State has decreased during a period when applications for concealed firearms licenses have tripled.
It is also reported by Monique Haughton Worrell, a law professor at the University of Florida, that homicides ruled justifiable under the SYG law have more than doubled.
No doubt this will be part of the discussion when the GRPC convenes Friday, Sept. 28, at the Orlando airport Hyatt Regency. SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan Gottlieb is looking forward to the event, which attracts a veritable Who’s Who in the firearms community for a weekend of panel discussions and presentations with hundreds of grassroots gun rights activists.
Last year’s event in Chicago and the 2010 gathering in San Francisco – the political “belly of the beast” to the gun rights community – were both very successful.
But with this week’s disclosures to the Task Force in Florida, the Orlando conference just might add some additional spark as well. No doubt someone on one of the panels will be discussing this information, especially because it belies the gun prohibition lobby’s doom-and-gloom forecasts from seven years ago.
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This just means that prior to SYG, far too many people were screwed.
The GRPC is a great event. If it lands near you, make plans to attend the free event.
Everyone needs to note that the GOP Governor Rick Scott, the GOP AG Pam Bondi, and GOP State Attorney Angela Corey, are trying to take away Floridians “Stand Your Ground” rights, Second Amendment rights, and rights to self-defense...with their pushing of the persecution of George Zimmerman.
There are GOP as bad on Second Amendment as Democrats are...and they need to be outed and ousted. We need to stop the “R means conservative” nonsense and get real...or we will lose our Second Amendment rights
The controversial law, passed seven years ago, has not produced any negative effect on the tourist trade.......................................... No where near much as the price of gasoline, and the Dodd Frank bill did.
Thank you for pointing that out. I didn’t know that.
I’m not a Florida voter (though I could be if I were a Democrat).
As many have said:
When I vote, I vote for the conservative on the ballot. If there isn’t one, then I vote for the Republican.
Wrong, buddy. Scott is an ardent supporter of the Second Amendment and would never sign a bill gutting SYG.
IMO, Bondi knew there was no case against Zimmerman, so she assigned a complete buffoon to represent the state’s case. If it was calculated, even better, but I believe that the case against Zimmerman is completely political and is being mishandled on purpose so they can go back to the angry black mobs and say, “Well, we let justice handle it, and his peers found him not guilty. Too bad, so sad.”
The blacks threatened to riot over OJ if he was convicted. I remember my mother pulling me out of school that day out of fear of riots in the neighborhoods where my high school was located. The blacks again are threatening, and have already committed, violence against whites in the Orlando area out of retribution for even allowing Zimmerman to bond out. This trial is a circus, the whole SYG committee crap in S. Florida is a ruse, and in the end, the blacks will go crying to the media, the media will cover it, some cars will be set on fire, houses broken into, etc.
This is all SOP, but under no circumstances do I see Scott or Bondi pushing any rejiggering of the current SYG law. It would have to be approved by the legislature, which is strongly pro-gun, signed by Scott, who wouldn’t, and since this committee has yet to even offer up any solutions, I wouldn’t be surprised if this whole thing just dies quietly on the vine with little more than some one-page signed statement by some NAACP lackeys decrying SYG as “disproportionately biased against blacks.”
This is happening pretty much right down the street from us! I turn right out of our neighborhood, drive about eight miles, turn right into the hotel where it is happening! Very exciting! I’m going to see if I can get the time to go....
Try to make the whole thing if you can, but Saturday is the big day. Here is the link for the conference
http://www.saf.org/default.asp?p=grpc
An impossible to gather statistic will start to have an impact sooner rather than later, however.
It is very expensive to give a trial then incarceration to a very violent criminal, amounting to millions of dollars over a 10-20 year sentence.
Justifiable homicide by civilian/ by police / Total
2000-—12—20-—32
2001-—12—21-—33
2002-—12—23-—35
2003-—16—16-—32
2004——8—23-—31
2005-—18—25-—43
2006-—12—21-—33
*SYG comes into effect
2007-—42—60—102
2008-—41—52-—93
2009-—45—60—105
2010-—40—56-—96
>>I think it more likely that Florida gained tourist trade from being labeled the “gunshine state”. <<
I know two people who have purchased winter homes in Florida specifically because of their Stand Your Ground laws.
Obviously, SYGL is working out just fine; what's the problem? Thanks for the stats, yefragetuwrabrumuy.
I saw a story that said the Florida SYG law went into effect in October of 2005. Do you recall where you got the date that you used?
I imagine it was too late in the year for the law to have much impact in the 2005 statistics. The first case was when James Behanna fatally stabbed a man in the heart with a pocketknife on Dec. 7, 2005. However, he was convicted and sentenced to prison, then conviction overturned and he was given 42 months of probation.
It was legally a very messy affair.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/article1086002.ece
However, by 2006, enough SYG cases were happening to obviously figure into the stats.
To avoid confusion, I should have moved that “SYG came into effect” up a year.
Not a problem, I was trying to find a definitive date, and did not come up with one. Clearly, it takes a while for the word to get out.
I gather the governor signed the law on April 14th, so I suspect it went into effect at the start of the fiscal year, which is often October 1st.
“amounting to millions of dollars over a 10-20 year sentence.”
Don’t forget that most of those violent criminals will serve multiple such sentences throughout their lifetime, so the costs are even higher.
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