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If all cities across the nation could hire good teachers and fire bad ones, most citizens would be in favor of raising the teacher pay....as it is pay raises or more money for education never reaches the students. Most K - third grade teachers use their own meager salaries to get the supplies they need to their class rooms. If these teachers would speak up as a group, not as a union, America would come to their aid. But speaking as a union will not help.

The father who can afford to stay home with his boys should begin homeschooling them, to heck with the school system it is for the Teachers Unions anyway, not for the betterment of teaching skill or aptitude of the student.

1 posted on 09/10/2012 9:43:37 AM PDT by yoe
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Those teachers make more money than most of the people who are paying them.


2 posted on 09/10/2012 9:46:11 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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Oh Please....The average salary is $71,000(That's $50.00 per hour...and that's for 180 days....PLUS BENEFITS.

Meager salaries went out the window 40 years ago.

3 posted on 09/10/2012 9:47:30 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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The father who can afford to stay home with his boys should begin homeschooling them...

Sending children to the gov't school system should be a desparate last resort. All other possibilities should be completely exhausted first.
4 posted on 09/10/2012 9:48:41 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/The-312/June-2011/Chicago-Teacher-Salaries-The-Long-View/


5 posted on 09/10/2012 9:49:53 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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IS it all theater so that O can come into his beloved Chicago a set things aright?


6 posted on 09/10/2012 9:50:46 AM PDT by all the best (`~!)
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'What am I supposed to do with my kid?'

Congrats, Chicago.
Ye reap what ye sow.

For you, I have no sympathy.

7 posted on 09/10/2012 9:50:53 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of No! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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Wealth Redistribution - It's fo' da chi'rens.


10 posted on 09/10/2012 10:01:00 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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"What am I supposed to do with my kid?"

Take him out to watch what happens to a city that is completely dominated by public union supporting Democrats. These parents will bitch and moan about this but will then show up in November and vote for the Dems that set up the system that allows this to happen.

11 posted on 09/10/2012 10:01:33 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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ha


13 posted on 09/10/2012 10:07:07 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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My grandson in Corvalls, OR started kindergarten today. HALF the day Spanish ONLY is spoken! This is outrageous. He should be learning math and reading and half of his time is wasted. I’m going there to visit next week and will be going to his class to observe.


14 posted on 09/10/2012 10:09:53 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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We keep moving further and further out of the reach of the liberal rot that has infected Minneapolis, Saint Paul and the inner ring suburbs.

We bought our house not based on the house, but where it was first. One of the best school districts in the state, I even sat in on several classes my kids would be in. I arrived unexpected so they did not have time to change things to look good for me.

The fact that the house was almost completely updated last year and on a lake is just icing on the cake.

I just drove it this morning. 60 minutes to downtown Minneapolis. Gas just hit 3.89 a gallon. It’s worth it to have my kids in a good school although I am considering a smaller van for a few extra MPG.

My suggestion to those in Chicago.. GTFO!


15 posted on 09/10/2012 10:12:51 AM PDT by cableguymn
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most citizens would be in favor of raising the teacher pay

Not this FReeper. They work about 180 days a year. They make far more per hour than I do and that's only assuming that we all work a 40 hour week. I don't get a fall break, spring break, a winter break, a summer vacation break, all government holidays and free health benefits and pension.

No amount of increased spending ever made a child smarter. I don't care if it was higher teacher salaries, air conditioning, computers, fancier campus, swimming pool, gymnasiums, soccer fields, carpet floors, better lunches, etc. We don't hire "professionals" in public schools. We hire policy followers and box checkers.

My wife and I sacrifice mightily to send our kids to a private school. In return I have my kids educator's home and cellular phone numbers. The school REQUIRES certain involvement from the parents. This drives expectations at home and in the schools. Bad teachers don't last long in private schools and are paid far less than their public school counterparts. Why? Because they are passionate about what they do and take pride in success.

How are public schools measured, really? Graduation rates? Test Scores?

Private schools are acedemically competitive. Guidance counselors have to send letters to colleges explaining why Johnny's 1,200 SAT test score doesn't match up with only his top 50% class rank. It confuses and confounds the likes of Harvard, Columbia, Ivy League, etc. The same kid graduates with a 3.5 GPA from his private high school but is, pound for pound, far more prepared for college and life than his public school educated peer who graduated with a 3.9 in the top 15% of his class and only scored a 950 on the SATs.

Do public school teacher unions ever have these kinds of concerns or challenges with their students success? They haven't gotten past how to make sure a teacher isn't fired for child abuse. Its like cave men trying to relate to NASA.

22 posted on 09/10/2012 10:19:04 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (The Click-&-Paste Media exists & works in Utopia, riding unicorns & sniffing pixy dust.)
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Its the Left's WAR ON CHILDREN

Abort them in the womb, sacrifice their education to union interests, and destroy their future opportunity with massive Gov't debt and a hyper-regulated economy.

30 posted on 09/10/2012 10:41:03 AM PDT by PGR88
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“Most K - third grade teachers use their own meager salaries to get the supplies they need to their class rooms. If these teachers would speak up as a group, not as a union, America would come to their aid. But speaking as a union will not help.”

Oh really? Is that why I pay tuition for my 5yo daughter to go to public school kindergarten, plus must provide class materials and my child’s materials, plus pay for busing and 2.50 per federally subsidized lunch as well as providing a snack for the class once per month? All that on top of a 37.5% increase in my property taxes last year and somehow I am supposed to sympathize? Yeah, I think not!


33 posted on 09/10/2012 10:47:16 AM PDT by jurroppi1
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Ha, a Freeper had this whine pegged already.


34 posted on 09/10/2012 10:53:47 AM PDT by bgill
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What are the odds a student, not in class, will be murdered or commit murder while their teachers are on strike?

We're talking Chicago here!

35 posted on 09/10/2012 11:32:12 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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They average $71k per annum—hardly meager.


37 posted on 09/10/2012 12:13:49 PM PDT by dinodino
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‘What am I supposed to do with my kid?’

OMG!! What do they do with them in the summer when school is out??? GEEZ!


38 posted on 09/10/2012 1:08:28 PM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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