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"Horses**t" (Romney adviser on Dem demoralizing campaign)
National Review Online ^ | 09/10/12 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 09/10/2012 6:54:52 AM PDT by TonyInOhio

I asked a top Romney adviser what he makes of reports that the Romney campaign knows it’s losing and that Ohio is slipping out of reach (PPP has a new poll with Obama at 50 in the state):

“It’s horses**t. Nobody in Boston thinks we’re going to lose. We’re in a tight race. We had a 4-5 point bounce after our convention and it evaporated when they had theirs. Now they have a 4-5 bounce. It’s going evaporate in September. We feel good about the map. We’re up with advertising in Wisconsin and I think North Carolina is going to come off the board. On Ohio, they’ve been spinning for months now that it’s out of reach.

There was a Columbus Post-Dispatch poll last week that had it 45-45. That’s a more accurate picture of the state of the play there than any of the spin. PPP has these polls that just put chum in the water for the media. Sometimes I think there’s a conscious effort between the media and Chicago to get Republicans depressed. And I hope our friends realize that all these media analysts out there are Democrats WHO WANT US TO LOSE. And the more Washington DC controls our economy, the more important inside-the-beltway publications are and the more money they make. The 202 area code is dominated by people who will make more money if Obama is reelected, so it’s not just an ideological thumb they’re putting on the scale for him, it’s a business interest.

I actually think the other side is in a panic. You look at New Mexico closing up. And they’re not above 50 in any of their target states. Look, we’re raising money, they’re raising money, and it’s tight. This is a dogfight. But the numbers actually point to a romney win barring something unforeseen.”


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To: GregH

The 1980 election was not a pro-Reagan election. As much as we like Reagan in hindsight, at the time there was a lot of trepidation about Reagan among voters, and they never got over it, not even by election day (1984 was a pro-Reagan election).

Romney has one big advantage Reagan didn’t have: nobody is scared of a Romney presidency. The press isn’t portraying Romney as a lunatic who wants to implement a vodoo-economic policy or who might start WWIII (and yes, that is how Reagan was portrayed by the press in 1980).


61 posted on 09/10/2012 7:48:13 AM PDT by Brookhaven (The Democratic Party has become the Beclowning Party)
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To: buffaloguy
"I do have a concern that the polling world has gotten the message with the suit filed against Gallup that bad Obama numbers published will get you a lawsuit and there is a strong possibility that the whole polling process has been compromised."

You're kidding, right? Dick Morris takes polls, mega-sample polls that not even Ras will spend to duplicate. Every poll Morris has taken shows Mittens winning. Is Morris compromised?

62 posted on 09/10/2012 7:49:34 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NC, FL, VA, OH, NE1, IA = 272EV)
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To: StAnDeliver

LOL that actually worries me. Morris predicting a result is usually a good contrarian indicator.


63 posted on 09/10/2012 7:52:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Brookhaven
The press isn’t portraying Romney as a lunatic who wants to implement a vodoo-economic policy or who might start WWIII (and yes, that is how Reagan was portrayed by the press in 1980).

1) I remember well.

2) STFU and stop giving the press ideas!!! :)

64 posted on 09/10/2012 7:53:10 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Brookhaven

“The 1980 election was not a pro-Reagan election. As much as we like Reagan in hindsight, at the time there was a lot of trepidation about Reagan among voters, and they never got over it, not even by election day (1984 was a pro-Reagan election).

Romney has one big advantage Reagan didn’t have: nobody is scared of a Romney presidency. “

Excellent points.Jimmuh lost because Jimmuh was Jimmuh not because Reagan was Reagan. That is why Romney needs to go negative on Obama and the economy at least 80 per cent of the time to swing this back to a referendum election on the incumbent and not a choice election between challenger and incumbent.


65 posted on 09/10/2012 7:53:15 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: chad_in_georgia

In this era of instant gratification, people need to remember that polls are lagging indicators. The polls seen right now account for a likability bounce from Michelle and Clinton’s speeches. We’ll see the impact of Obama’s speech in the next day or two, and the impact of the jobs numbers by midweek.


66 posted on 09/10/2012 7:53:39 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: chad_in_georgia
"I don’t wanna hear about “weekend polling”, we’re down and what the hell are we going to use to catch up?"

Then pull your thumbs out of your ass and stick them in your ears because that's exactly what we're going to do here -- explain to lemming bedwetters like you what "weekend polling" means. No matter how long it takes.

67 posted on 09/10/2012 7:54:38 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NC, FL, VA, OH, NE1, IA = 272EV)
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To: Mountain Mary

Laz is just tired of “all the negative waves, Moriarty!” - Kelly’s Heroes quote. Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

On a more serious note - so am I. Too much whining from the Peanut Gallery.


68 posted on 09/10/2012 7:57:19 AM PDT by castowell (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Brookhaven

Yes the press did portray that but Reagan had a ability to directly talk to voters bypassing the press.

remember the famous line ‘ I paid for this mike dammit”.

Somehow Romney does not give me the same confidence level.


69 posted on 09/10/2012 7:58:03 AM PDT by GregH
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To: Lazamataz; RIghtwardHo
On top of that already but my one of my sources needs to brief RIghtwardHo about Ohio before contacting Politico, just a courtesy call.

RIghtwardHo, she wanted to let you know she is wearing this disguise today.


70 posted on 09/10/2012 7:58:14 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Mountain Mary

It is surely every American’s responsibility to see to it that Barack Obama is not re-elected President of the United States.


71 posted on 09/10/2012 7:58:40 AM PDT by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: LS

And don’t forget voter ID laws.

New Hampshire’s voter ID law has also recently been upheld.

The busloads of cheats that roll up from MA won’t have it so easy this November.


72 posted on 09/10/2012 8:01:08 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: dfwgator
"The lousy economic numbers are actually helping Obama, because the Democrats have convinced people that the Republicans are going to take away Unemployment benefits and other relief."

Obama proposed the rules on Extended Benefits, Obama signed off on the rule that EB expires when the state rate falls below the national rate, and Democrats make up the majority of states where this is happening:

"The biggest cuts will take place in the country’s most populous state, California, where 95,300 people will lose their benefits, according to an estimate produced by the National Employment Law Project. Other states cutting off extended benefits include Texas (22,700), Illinois (26,100), Florida (29,400), Pennsylvania (20,000), North Carolina (20,100), Colorado (11,100) and Connecticut (10,700).

Unemployed workers in these states will see the maximum duration of their unemployment benefits cut from 99 weeks to between 73 and 79 weeks, depending on the state.

These eight states will join 25 others that have already cut extended benefits, including 15 last month [April 2012]. The NELP estimates that more than 400,000 have seen their jobless benefits abruptly cut off, not counting the many thousands every month who reach the end of their benefits five months earlier than they would have without the cuts."


73 posted on 09/10/2012 8:04:43 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NC, FL, VA, OH, NE1, IA = 272EV)
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To: chad_in_georgia



74 posted on 09/10/2012 8:07:00 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: chad_in_georgia

Gallup—not Rasmussen


75 posted on 09/10/2012 8:07:12 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: TonyInOhio

“I actually think the other side is in a panic. You look at New Mexico closing up. And they’re not above 50 in any of their target states. Look, we’re raising money, they’re raising money, and it’s tight. This is a dogfight. But the numbers actually point to a romney win barring something unforeseen.” “


i’ve said this for a while now and yes- my stomach turns when i see the recent polls- but lets look at the facts:

1) independents, which obama won handily in ‘08 are turning towards Romney..

2) the Catholic vote is turning away from obama...his Jewish vote seems to be diminishing..

3) recent polls suggest obama may not have as big advantage in the women vote as they claim...

4) obama got 43% of the male white vote in ‘08, first time since jimmy carter its been over 39%- he won’t get close to that this time...

5) voter enthusiasm on the side of the GOP....

6) young voters won’t turn out in the #’s for obama compared to ‘08...

7) every poll suggest the GOP has a 4-5% voter advantage over the rats this November compared to ‘08 when the rats had a huge advantage...

8) while they claim obama holds a 2 or 3% lead in states he won by 1%, 3%, 5% in ‘08, his leads in states he won by 13%. 15%, 16% in ‘08 is less than half today- makes no sense...

bottom line- from my amateur POV many of the groups that carried obama in ‘08 have turned against him or are ;less inclined to vote for him....


76 posted on 09/10/2012 8:08:11 AM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: CatherineofAragon
.. a unicorn with glittered wings ..

lol

77 posted on 09/10/2012 8:08:21 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Brookhaven

Yep...and even the droll Dukakis was up 17 after his Convention.


78 posted on 09/10/2012 8:11:37 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Conservative Economic and National Security Commentary: econus.blogspot.com)
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To: TonyInOhio

I know POLITICO is slanting as many articles as they can in the Romney has no chance direction. Unnamed sources, analysis of polls they don’t link to or mention by name,,

I would say the MSMers are more in a panic than the Romney campaign.


79 posted on 09/10/2012 8:12:54 AM PDT by austinaero
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