Skip to comments.France and Germany moving towards closer political union
Posted on 09/02/2012 5:06:46 PM PDT by Olog-hai
Last year, Germany went out on a limb by calling for political union in Europe. The idea was met with little enthusiasm elsewhere in the eurozone, but particularly in France.
After the election of French President François Hollande in May, it seemed that views of the EU's foremost political duo could not be further apart.
But the mood has since changed, and serious plans are underway to createif not a full political union, then something close to it.
Meanwhile, EU council president Herman Van Rompuy and others are drawing up a paper to upgrade the eurozone, which will be discussed by EU leaders at a summit on 18-19 October. It will include elements for a political union, but also for a fiscal unionsurrendering more budgetary powers to Brusselsconsidered key for the survival of the single currency.
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The last time that happened was around 1938.
enslaving the rest of europe
I read a book with this plot line once.....
And Germany’s doing it without firing a shot. Come to think of it, they didn’t have to fire too many shots in 1938 either, at least not against the French.
Actually it was June 1940. Only lasted until August 1944 though.
I guess next they will dividing up other countries
I’m going to dust this one off:
The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty’s Government conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).
In the first year, “s” will be used instead of the soft “c.” Sertainly, sivil servants will resieve this news with joy. Also, the hard “c” will be replaced with “k”. Not only will this klear up konfusion, but typewriters kan have one less letter.
There will be growing publik emthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome “ph” will be replaced by “f”. This will make words like fotograf” 20 persent shorter.
In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent “e”s in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go.
By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing “th” by “z” and “w” by “ v”.
During ze fifz year, ze unesesary “o” kan be dropd from vords kontaining “ou”, and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.
After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer.
Ze drem vil finali kum tru.
The beginnings of Newspeak?
Ze french.....ptoooey.....enjoy the sarcasm:
Ze french wats u be likes zem!!!!!!
(And if anyone knows how to post these pics....plz)
It’s no great surprise. The two have strong economic, infrastructural and cultural ties now.
Do an internet search for “Europe of the regions”.
France’s railroads still run on the left. Think they’ll be browbeaten to change that?
This time, I say let the Krauts have the Frogs. They saved us during the Revolution, we saved them twice in the 20th Century, they owe us.
Charlemagne would be so proud. Anyway, I think that Greece, Spain and Italy would be fifth wheels in this arrangement.
Seems like you’re thinking of this “arrangement” as something other than imperialistic.
thanks, isn’t the EU enough of a union as it is?
They’d be the puppet states
Maybe, but I think that if Germany could cut a new deal with France (and maybe Britain) and cut Greece, Italy and Spain loose, they would do so in a heartbeat.
You guys are soooo twentieth century. Brown shirts and jack boots are so declasse.
Loose to where? They were put in the union in the first place not because of their wealth but because of their strategic advantage. The EU’s long-term outlook is hawkish.
Loose to anywhere but access to the German treasury, I would presume.
So the lesson Germany took from the World Wars was to not use military force in trying to conquer Europe. Of course, it’s still trying to conquer Europe.
They don’t have such access. They have loans whose terms are quite draconic and demand this political union as one of the terms, though.
Err, make that draconian. They also have to pay off the tanks and other armaments that they bought from Germany before anything else as part of the deal. There’s a lot going on there that is more than merely fishy.
1940 and it took roughly 6 weeks to accomplish!
It didn’t work so well for the French.
Which in the end, may have been a blessing in disguise.....A long drawn out war, may have worn down the British, French and German Armies, allowing Stalin to swoop in and take all of Europe.
Okay, Germany calls for a reformulation of the terms of the European Union. A constitutional convention if you will. During the convention, new standards are formulated, which, son of a gun, exclude spendthrift nations like Italy and Greece. The excluded nations can become members as soon as they get their budget problems in check (yeah right). This happens so quickly and unexpectedly, that almost everyone is taken by suprise. A new currency the Northern Euro or Neuro, comes into being. The old Euro collapses, and the resulting hyperinflation devestates the economies of Greece, Spain and Italy. Germany reiterates that the Mediterranean countries are more than welcome into the Northern European Union, as soon as they achieve fiscal reponsibilty (yeah right). China converts as many dollars as it can into Neuros, causing the dollar to collapse. Interest rates are driven up to stop the sell off. The United States economy goes into free-fall. Stop me if you have heard enough...
See my tagline.
The Frogs are so good at surrendering before a shot is even fired...
You can stop. If southern Europe goes into the tank, Germany is right behind them. Those countries represent a large market for Germany’s export based economy and German banks have billions in loans there. That is why Merkel is desparate to find a solution. I don’t think there is a solution other than to let the countries go bankrupt, revert to soverign currencies and let the market work things out. Anyway, the dollar is going to the winner in this even though we are bystanders.
Well the goods news such as it is or will be is that at the time the PIGS default, we will still be broke and there would be little that we could do. Second, while I am not a Romney cheerleader, I believe he will be our next President and will bring, along with Paul Ryan, a clear headed business approach to economic matters. There is no way Romney or Ryan would think that grabbing a falling anvil that is the Euro would be a great idea.
Yes! He was a concert pianist who emigrated from behind the Iron Curtain when the USSR invaded his country around 1956.
I'm emailing the guy that turned me on to him because I'm having a senior moment regarding his name. It was a wonderful book from someone with the perfect perspective/experiences to make it all understandable. I'm looking for my signed copy...
I read a book with this plot line once.....
CAULDRON by larry bond. the goos guys are poland and hungary and us and britain, russia is borderline and the french end up trying to screw the germans.
Sounds Vichy to me.
France needs to return all of the vowels they have stolen from the Slavs.
Compared to German, English is very problematic concerning phonetic spellings.
Nothing like fixing a failed policy by doubling down on it.
Ten kings will give The Beast their power.........
We have always been at war with Eurasia, Winston........
For the Germans to move an administrative role from Berlin to Brussels is little more than the move from Bonn to Berlin. the individual states in Germany will remain powerful and independent.
it's the same in Spain.
But France would have a problem giving up power to Brussels because it would go against 400 years of French history and admin
Yes. the commercial union was fine, but I wonder if a defensive pact will really mean that Germany would fight Russia if it invades Estonia or Latvia...