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Student's mouth stapled in 'anti-Semitic attack' [Michigan State]
Jerusalem Post ^ | 8-28-12

Posted on 08/28/2012 4:13:35 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: Krankor
Two drunken punks, attacked him and nobody at the party helped.

See my post #19.. 9.9 times out of 10 when I worked at the bar fights never just happened. Always a trigger point...usually by someone lipping off, insulting a gf, walking into somebody and not apologising etc.

I never did see two guys just start beating on someone.

21 posted on 08/28/2012 5:06:26 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: piasa

The story has been posted earlier where the cops say they don’t believe it was a hate crime after interviewing people at the party. Admittedly, these are the local cops and not the university police. But it’s a liberal, college town that lives off the student body. And how did the punks know he was Jewish? It just doesn’t smell right.


22 posted on 08/28/2012 5:10:19 PM PDT by Krankor (Green-eyed lady, lovely lady Strolling slowly towards the sun)
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To: SJackson
Police say attack on Mich. student not hate crime

By MIKE HOUSEHOLDER | Associated Press – 2 hrs 45 mins ago

DETROIT (AP) — Police say an attack on a Michigan State University student at an off-campus party is not being investigated as a hate crime.

Zach Tennen says he was at a party when two men asked if he was Jewish, and when he responded “yes,” punched him in the face. Tennen says his attackers also stapled his mouth.

The 19-year-old sophomore from the Detroit suburb of Franklin was recovering Tuesday from jaw surgery. He says the assault took place early Sunday at an off-campus party.

East Lansing police said in a statement Tuesday that the assault was “not likely a hate crime.”

The statement also says police have identified a potential suspect.

Police did not return calls Tuesday from The Associated Press asking for more details on the attack.


23 posted on 08/28/2012 5:14:53 PM PDT by wtd
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To: trailhkr1
I was a bouncer at a bar for a year while in uni. Seen stuff like this before. I suspect he was drunk, lipped off to the two wrong guys(possibly he started it), they beat the crap out of him and they stapled his mouth shut and the two guy out of being angry at him used the anti Jewish slurs after the fact. I don't think they were out looking for Jews to pick on but it just progressed into bad language

Yes, the facts need to be sorted out, but a rather serious assault. As a bouncer I wouldn't necessarily expect you to intervene, but wouldn't you call 911? What was wrong with the bystanders? I admit to being a bit surprised at the number of people, not you, who seem to imply this is the victims fault.

24 posted on 08/28/2012 5:22:48 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: wtd

Whether or not it’s a hate crime is largely irrelevant. When a Muslim looking to kill Jews strolled into a Jewish community center in Seattle shooting six, killing one pregnant woman, it wasn’t a hate crime either. The perps should be prosecuted, the bystanders should be ashamed.


25 posted on 08/28/2012 5:25:11 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: wtd

Whether or not it’s a hate crime is largely irrelevant. When a Muslim looking to kill Jews strolled into a Jewish community center in Seattle shooting six, killing one pregnant woman, it wasn’t a hate crime either. The perps should be prosecuted, the bystanders should be ashamed.


26 posted on 08/28/2012 5:25:11 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: wtd

Whether or not it’s a hate crime is largely irrelevant. When a Muslim looking to kill Jews strolled into a Jewish community center in Seattle shooting six, killing one pregnant woman, it wasn’t a hate crime either. The perps should be prosecuted, the bystanders should be ashamed.


27 posted on 08/28/2012 5:25:11 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: wtd

Whether or not it’s a hate crime is largely irrelevant. When a Muslim looking to kill Jews strolled into a Jewish community center in Seattle shooting six, killing one pregnant woman, it wasn’t a hate crime either. The perps should be prosecuted, the bystanders should be ashamed.


28 posted on 08/28/2012 5:25:11 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: SJackson
Malicious wounding. A vicious, violent assault like this should be met with the maximum punishment allowed by law. Such a callous disregard for another individual bespeaks an extremely dangerous criminal mind. Such people don't belong in a civilized society.

Whether this incident is a hate crime or not is purely a semantic dispute. Regardless, the perpetrators deserve no mercy. I hope these pieces of shit spend many years in prison contemplating just how evil they are.

IMHO, the death penalty is entirely appropriate for such sadistic animals...

29 posted on 08/28/2012 5:26:23 PM PDT by sargon
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To: trailhkr1

I don’t know, in my younger days on the infamous Rush street, every now and then, there was a drunken jerk who, for whatever reason ( didn’t like my looks, was pissed I was with a girl and he wasn’t) would do something to start a confrontation). I was always out there for one reason- to meet women so I ignored it. Luckily, I always managed to avoid a fight. But I know for a fact there were some real losers out there who just started a fight no matter what.


30 posted on 08/28/2012 5:26:29 PM PDT by Krankor (Green-eyed lady, lovely lady Strolling slowly towards the sun)
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To: SJackson

Amish again?


31 posted on 08/28/2012 5:26:36 PM PDT by expat2
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To: montag813; zeestephen; SJackson; Krankor; svcw

See all,

It’s not that were anti Semetic, or anything like that.

It’s just that, this ain’t our first rodeo. Now I’m not into keeping stats and all, but we ALL know “stories” that have “changed” as the details come out.

Gotta pass the smell test ya know.


32 posted on 08/28/2012 5:27:06 PM PDT by onona (Thank you fellow Freepers, just because I can.)
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To: Krankor
This happens all the time and the punks would probably be charged with a misdemeanor.

They broke the guy's jaw so badly he needed surgery. Probably not a misdemeanor.

33 posted on 08/28/2012 5:39:05 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Krankor
I don't know if the story is something he made up or not .

But THIS is your evidence?:The story has been posted earlier where the cops say they don’t believe it was a hate crime after interviewing people at the party.

Man, you've gotta open your eyes.

The are NO hate crimes agains whites or Jews, no matter the evidence.

34 posted on 08/28/2012 5:39:07 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Excuse me, no one here likes attacks against Jews, or is slow to condemn such things.

This story contains contradictions and some implausible elements. No one is being antisemitic because this particular story might be exaggerated.

The story was his mouth was “stapled shut”. Apparently he found a staple between his teeth. He said no one would help him, police said that’s not true. He said he was thrown out of the party house he was at after being beat up, which was just weird.

The story happens to sound fishy, that’s all. No need to get all angry at people for it.


35 posted on 08/28/2012 5:49:18 PM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way)
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To: SJackson

I happen to agree with you . . .simply posted the update to the story.


36 posted on 08/28/2012 5:50:34 PM PDT by wtd
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To: svcw; SJackson

I read it in a(nother) forum discussion concerning this incident & verified it through other sources. Another valid argument (imho) was the unlikelihood of 20 people watching someone being tortured like that & saying/ doing nothing.


37 posted on 08/28/2012 6:16:08 PM PDT by KGeorge
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To: Krankor

I’ll reserve judgment. There are so many of these self-inflicted “hate crimes”, but once in a while, there are real scuz buckets out there.


38 posted on 08/28/2012 6:34:59 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: svcw

Your first link took over my Browser and would not let me come back.


39 posted on 08/28/2012 6:37:25 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

Yks! Sorry about that. I had no problems what soever.


40 posted on 08/28/2012 6:47:28 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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