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To: WilliamIII

I have absolutely no problem if Romney wants to defend Romneycare.

Some people don’t seem to get the distinction between a sovereign state devising its own system and a federal government telling 310 million people how to live their lives.

Now if somebody is from Mass. and they think it is bad policy, I would judge Romney on that, but I don’t buy the argument that Romneycare and Obamacare are the same thing.


3 posted on 08/24/2012 11:08:15 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: radpolis; All

“I have absolutely no problem if Romney wants to defend Romneycare.

Some people don’t seem to get the distinction between a sovereign state devising its own system and a federal government telling 310 million people how to live their lives.

Now if somebody is from Mass. and they think it is bad policy, I would judge Romney on that, but I don’t buy the argument that Romneycare and Obamacare are the same thing.”


RomneyCare was an unprecedented piece of legislation. The way you describe it, you act as if it would be just a normal thing for a state to consider. MittensCare violates the very essence and spirit of the MA constitution as intended by John Adams, the man who wrote it. The slaves of that state who helped institute that fraud, including the same socialist member of the DSA who went on to help Obama craft ObamaCare, claim rights and absolute powers of the government that are simply not mentioned in their own state constitution. That is why Mittens defined the mandate as a tax, and not a mandate. He had the same problem Obama did on the national level.

And as for whenever Mittens claims that RomneyCare “worked.” That also is a lie. RomneyCare does NOT insure everyone, and, in fact, I don’t believe there was even a change in the stats before and after it went into effect. In fact, nothing actually changed with RomneyCare. Prices continued to go up, money continued to be spent. The only difference is that the government now had more power over the lives of the people. Even Bill O’Reilly pointed that out, and Mittens reply was “Well, they were HIGH before.” Mitt Romney is a pathological liar and doesn’t even understand what the problem is of his own law, and won’t even be honest about its failure. Instead, each time he opens his mouth on this, he paints it as the greatest thing ever. He is a liar.


6 posted on 08/24/2012 11:22:20 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: radpolis

Bingo.


9 posted on 08/24/2012 11:26:22 PM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: radpolis
Some people don’t seem to get the distinction between a sovereign state devising its own system and a federal government telling 310 million people how to live their lives.

So you're cool if Bernie Sanders becomes governor of Vermont and changes them over to communism? And if he wants to run for President as a Republican and advocate every state do the same thing, you're cool with that too?

11 posted on 08/24/2012 11:35:18 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: radpolis

States’ rights don’t trump stupidity and evil.


12 posted on 08/24/2012 11:35:50 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: radpolis
I have absolutely no problem if Romney wants to defend Romneycare. Some people don’t seem to get the distinction between a sovereign state devising its own system and a federal government telling 310 million people how to live their lives. Now if somebody is from Mass. and they think it is bad policy, I would judge Romney on that, but I don’t buy the argument that Romneycare and Obamacare are the same thing.

Thanks for the injection of Constitutional sanity.

I also noticed folks missing the point when Romney made the statement on Gays in the Boy Scouts - He said he SUPPORTED the Boy Scouts right to choose how to run itself and BELIEVED that anyone should be able to be a Boy Scout. All the Romney-makes-me-go-apesh.. folks focused on the "believe" statment and totally missed the important statement that preceded it. I'd rather have someone who believed something I didn't like, but instead of pushing it down my throat, would accede to the rights and liberties laid out in the Constitution.

45 posted on 08/25/2012 3:30:04 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: radpolis

What about the individual? While the Constitution does delegate some powers to the state, the gist of it is protecting the individual against the collective. Are we for Obamacare now just as long as it is legislated by states and not the fed?


50 posted on 08/25/2012 1:59:30 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: radpolis
Some people don’t seem to get the distinction between a sovereign state devising its own system and a federal government telling 310 million people how to live their lives.

That's because there is no distinction.

FUMR

53 posted on 08/25/2012 2:22:15 PM PDT by hitchwolf
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