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MISSOURI: THE 'SHOW ME ANOTHER G.O.P. CANDIDATE' STATE
AnnCoulter.com ^ | August 22, 2012 | Ann Coulter

Posted on 08/23/2012 12:59:59 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

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To: Sola Veritas; elephant; CutePuppy; katiedidit1; Jacquerie; doug from upland; SZonian; ...
75 posted on Thu Aug 23 2012 19:42:43 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Sola Veritas: "Yes indeed, and the Tea Party is just fiscally conservative democrats. They are becoming as bad as the GOP establishment. Social conservatives have NEVER really been welcome in the GOP.....we SOCONs are to the GOP what Blacks are to the DEMS. We are to be seen not heard....just be sure to vote the way the GOPe tells you! I thought the Tea Party had evolved into SOCONs, but I see now this is NOT the case. Many SOCONs are part of the Tea Party, but the Tea Party is socially conservative....they just want lower taxes...which is OK, but NOT enough in itself to move America in a healthy direction."

You hit on a key point.

Social conservatives, economic conservatives and national defense conservatives have overlapping agendas but don't always agree, and sometimes when we do agree, we don't agree on the order of priorities.

Look, I think Akin's comment was stupid. I've said it repeatedly, and I think he made Christian conservatives look really bad, and he has done serious damage to literally decades of solid conservative votes in the Missouri legislature and in the House of Representatives. I won't defend the comment, Akin won't get out, and now we have to decide what to do next.

I think it has become obvious in this race that Akin is willing to try to get major grassroots backing from social conservatives and try to win a Senate race without national Republican Party support. That is his decision and only he can make that decision and if the current polling data remains consistent he has at least a chance. This is Missouri, after all, where lots of conservative rural people still call themselves Democrats and will vote for a conservative Christian but will revert to voting Democrat if the candidates look similar on other issues. Akin might pull a victory off, just like secular Tea Party people have pulled off upset victories in other states.

I understand why the national GOP considers Akin radioactive. Fine. So let the national GOP put their money into races they think are winnable; they're going to do it anyway. Lots of social conservative Republicans didn't like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Rudy Giuliani very much, but we understood that they could win in California and New York even if they couldn't win in our states, and we let their supporters back their candidates without raising too much of a stink about their less-than-ideal views on other issues since we knew any Democrat would be much worse.

But don't have the head of the Republican National Committee run around saying "not one dime" goes to the Republican primary winner even if he's tied with the incumbent Democrat. That kind of talk really antagonizes Christian conservatives, does long-term damage, and is totally unnecessary.

The national GOP has now given lots of cover to moderate Republicans who see Akin as being a danger to their races in other states. Fine. You've made your point, so stay quiet now and let social conservatives try to win this thing in Missouri if Akin decides to stay in the race.

101 posted on 08/30/2012 11:23:58 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

I can’t disagree with that.


102 posted on 08/30/2012 11:32:10 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA; darrellmaurina

Wenzel poll in Missouri shows a statistical dead heat. Among likely voters, Akin leads....(I think it was by 3, something like 48-45)

Wenzel is a polling firm out of Columbus, Ohio with a good track record. They were right on the money with the Cruz victory.

Akin’s 6 second flub is so yesterday’s news.


103 posted on 08/30/2012 11:38:26 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: garybob

The replacement would not be some UNKNOWN you tremendous ninny!!!! Boy are you a dim bulb.


104 posted on 08/30/2012 11:42:36 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

What if Akin made a deal with the Central Committee in which he could name a replacement? Yes, I know it is highly unlikely. Just asking a question to which I’d appreciate an answer.


105 posted on 08/30/2012 12:02:20 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: darrellmaurina; vette6387; freekitty; Nachum; bevperl; MamaDearest; mazda77; flat; unkus; gonzo; ...

In my opinion, Akin cares more about his own ego than the entire country. He opened his own big mouth and started this mess. I find that reprehensible and loathsome. He’s as much the problem as Hussein Obama.

We have men and women in our military dying for this country and Akin, the diarrhea-mouthed boob, thinks more of himself than his country. How disgusting!


106 posted on 08/30/2012 12:07:23 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: doug from upland; AuH2ORepublican; darrellmaurina

That’s a swell idea Doug. I don’t know how unlikely it is, it sounds sensible to me, people seem to hate sensible ideas nowadays so I guess it won’t happen.

I don’t know about Akin “naming” the replacement exactly but giving him veto power or consulting with him and coming to a mutually agreeable choice, I could see that happening.

There is no indication the guy is gonna quit though, if so I hope that new poll is accurate and not nonsense.


107 posted on 08/30/2012 12:16:05 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: xzins
Not yesterday's news. Aug. 28 news with a full-page ad in the Tampa Tribune. It is unfair, but this is how they will continue to exploit Akin across the country. Akin gave them a weapon and a gift that will keep on giving. This election should be about the economy and jobs. To a certain extent, Akin has allowed them to dodge that issue. They will keep hammering this and it will resonate with independents. Thanks, Todd.
108 posted on 08/30/2012 12:24:37 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: Impy

Thanks for the response. If it really is not about himself, Akin would make this offer to the Central Committee. Another equally committed pro-life conservative -—— who will beat McCasKILL.


109 posted on 08/30/2012 12:31:22 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

110 posted on 08/30/2012 12:35:13 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: darrellmaurina
But don't have the head of the Republican National Committee run around saying "not one dime" goes to the Republican primary winner even if he's tied with the incumbent Democrat.

It's damage control. One candidate vs. many. Even one penny of OPEN support puts other candidates at risk.

Hopefully social conservatives will realize the very real political problem this flap created for the party nationwide, and not become mired in long term resentment as a result, because the legitimate resentment cuts both ways.

For instance, when Huckabee compares the NRSC to "union goons" who "kneecap" their enemies, he is also turning off voters (including social conservatives) who view this critical election from a logistical standpoint and whose primary focus is on attaining a majority in congress with viable candidates in order to reverse the damage democrats have wrought.

Furthermore, moderate republicans will also be less inclined to sympathize with the social conservative point of view, if they see high profile social conservatives apparently willing to jeopardize election outcomes when the stakes for losing are so high.

It would be shortsighted and foolish to allow this political family fight to cause permanent damage in the party, but the democrats (and Alinsky) would certainly be pleased.

111 posted on 08/30/2012 12:44:43 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: ExTexasRedhead

yes


112 posted on 08/30/2012 3:12:43 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: doug from upland

Maybe the worried should ask Akin how he turned the numbers around so fast, and then do the same thing themselves, if they’re that worried.

I think the basic message is “the guy flubbed some words, he apologized for it, and it is nothing compared to the fact that you, your kids, or your friends can’t find jobs.”


113 posted on 08/30/2012 6:13:33 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Impy

The replacement would not be some UNKNOWN you tremendous ninny!!!! Boy are you a dim bulb.

I generally find those who call others stupid, are in fact pretty stupid themselves, so doubting your mental capacity to understand real life, I'm going to try this ONE more time.

When the voters went into the voting booth to vote for one of the three candidates, they had several weeks of radio, TV and newspaper ads running statewide promoting these candidates. Mystery candidate #4's name, pulled out of a hat somewhere would have been UNKNOWN prior to this by the majority of the voters.

On a personal note: Name calling is in pretty poor taste and generally better suited for some liberal web site. Vitriol is usually indicative of some pretty poor mental reasoning. If you can't make your point sans name calling, you don't have much of a point to make. Stop with the name calling, now.

114 posted on 08/31/2012 9:35:44 AM PDT by garybob (More sweat in training, less blood in combat.)
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To: forgotten man

That is what passes for humor on FR these days. Trash a 98% ACU rated conservative and make him look like a pig by posting a photo-shopped picture.


115 posted on 08/31/2012 9:40:19 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Is that a lynch mob ping list you got there?

Can I be on it? I’ve never seen anyone lynched before.


116 posted on 08/31/2012 9:42:49 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: listenhillary

The list is made up of patriots who put their country first rather than their own egos.


117 posted on 08/31/2012 9:47:53 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Akin has every right to be in the race. He has broken no laws and done nothing unethical.

What YOU want has nothing to do with this race.

Go ahead lynch a solid conservative because you got your panties in a twist over the media outrage over a “legitimate” statement. Even a statement he back tracked on.

Cowards seeking strength in numbers I suppose.


118 posted on 08/31/2012 9:56:39 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: listenhillary

Read the polls and tell us that Akinw ill win. You think it’s better to give up a senate seat to the RAT supporter and one who voted for the Holocaust that is DeathCare? Akin opened his own mouth and stuck his own foot in it. He did the damage to himself. Better to punish the entire country by giving the RATs a vote for Reid to use?


119 posted on 08/31/2012 10:02:59 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: listenhillary

Read the polls and tell us that Akinw will win. Better to give up a senate seat to an ObamaCare supporter and one that voted for that Holocaust? Akin opened his own mouth and stuck his own foot in it. He did the damage to himself without thinking. Better to punish the entire country by giving the RATs a vote for Reid to use?


120 posted on 08/31/2012 10:03:35 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Show me that putting anyone else on the ticket right now would guarantee a win.

Romney is up 12 in the last PPD poll. Maybe a voter like you would pull the lever for McCaskill because of your hate for Akin, but I trust Missouri is filled with people that have common sense.


121 posted on 08/31/2012 11:03:08 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Impy

stop talking TO DEMS. I am pissed off and this used to be the place to get pissed off and everyone is so happy now that the GOP ... ??? What happened?

I AM PISSED OFF!!!


122 posted on 08/31/2012 7:23:39 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Yeah I’m not gonna feed the troll anymore.

Who’s happy?


123 posted on 09/01/2012 3:58:30 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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