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Former Marine Brandon Raub Sentenced To Up To 30 Days In Psych Ward Over Facebook Posts
http://www.businessinsider.com/former-marine-brandon-raub-is-being-held-in-a-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts-about-911-2012-8#ixzz247Oa39GC ^ | 8/20/2012

Posted on 08/20/2012 1:02:58 PM PDT by LadyEleanor

The former Marine who was detained by the federal government over Facebook posts critical of the government is being held in a psychiatric ward, Peter Bacqué of the Richmond Times-Dispatch reports.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: facebook; fb; firstamendment; freespeech; marine; obama; psychiatry; psychward; raub; sourcetitlenoturl
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1 posted on 08/20/2012 1:03:07 PM PDT by LadyEleanor
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To: LadyEleanor

The Soviet Union did the same thing.............


2 posted on 08/20/2012 1:09:16 PM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: LadyEleanor

Yhis is a bizarre story. Each authority denies it arrested him yet he ends up in a pysch hospital

The vid of him being arrested shows someone calm and not resisting.
very bizarre


3 posted on 08/20/2012 1:12:49 PM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: LadyEleanor
One time it would be nice for reporters to ask some basic follow up questions...

"We went out to interview him because of complaints that our office had received about people coming across his posts and perceiving them as threatening"

Q. What are the names of the people who complained?

Q. Which posts, specifically, were objectionable? What did they say?

Q. What or who, specifically, was threatened..and specifically how?

4 posted on 08/20/2012 1:14:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: LadyEleanor
This is basically a rehash of news from yesterday:

click here for yesterday's thread.

5 posted on 08/20/2012 1:17:55 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: LadyEleanor

No such thing as a former Marine.....


6 posted on 08/20/2012 1:21:37 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: dirtboy

really dirtboy?
show me in yesterdays thread where it reportshe was represented by the Rutherdord institute
or show me where in yesterdays link it says that there was a 3 hour hearing TODAY. Monday
Now that would have been a good trick
to post news vbefore it happened.

No Dirtboy this is new news and updated.
but nice being snarky before you even read the link


7 posted on 08/20/2012 1:24:27 PM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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8 posted on 08/20/2012 1:34:14 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: LadyEleanor

9 posted on 08/20/2012 1:35:05 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: LadyEleanor

this is just one step away from people being “disappeared”......


10 posted on 08/20/2012 1:35:10 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: LadyEleanor

We’d all be in jail if this really was the reason.


11 posted on 08/20/2012 1:37:00 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: LadyEleanor

According to his mother Kathleen Thomas, Brandon Raub - who has served his nation in two wars - was hauled off by authorities from the FBI, Secret Service and Chesterfield County PD, the Salemnews website reported.

FBI agent Sherry Grainger reportedly told Thomas her son was making “threats that were terrorist in nature”.

The writer of the story on the website described the affair as “Facebook Terrorism” stuff.

In reaction to her son’s arrest, the decorated Marine’s mother has called into question the freedom of speech in the United States.

Her remarks followed the abrupt arrest of Raub whose posts on Facebook have been under scrutiny. The case, experts say, is a flagrant indication of the US government’s strict control over social networking websites, above all Facebook.

Thomas said her son was questioned about why he was writing comments critical of the government.

“He basically said ‘I have some disagreements with the government and share this’, and they said, ‘You have to go with us’,” Thomas noted.

She added, “He was handcuffed, not read his rights, put into a Chesterfield Police Department vehicle and taken to John Randolph Psychiatric Hospital in Hopewell, Virginia,” Thomas said.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/257250.html


12 posted on 08/20/2012 1:38:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: dirtboy

No, because today he went before a judge as the 72 hour hold was up and they were allowed to detain him for 30 more days.


13 posted on 08/20/2012 1:38:59 PM PDT by LadyEleanor
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To: LadyEleanor
On the other threads I recounted how the Kennedy brothers (president JFK and U.S. attorney general RFK) did this to a conservative activist and former U.S. Army major general -- but they were opposed by both the Right and the ACLU.

Edwin Walker was freed after five days. What were Walker's misdeeds? None. All lies reported by the hostile press.. so heinous were the accusations in the press that Lee Harvey Oswald attempted to murder the former Army general in April of 1963.

Personally I am shocked at so many saying that the Marine deserves it.. doesn't anyone remember Richard Jewell and how he was "guilty" of the Atlanta bombing? BTW, I predicted that the FBI would grab the first "loser" and charge him with that crime.

Maybe the Marine is not merely speaking as a patriot.. did the Obama/Holder Dept. of Just Us have to go the route of the Kennedys and Stalin? What's with these rich and ideology-driven spoiled Demobrats?

14 posted on 08/20/2012 1:40:09 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: RWGinger
Actually, I got it off the support Raub Facebook page yesterday that Rutherford was involved.

Business Insider cites an old column for this story.

If there is a new news item in this, I stand corrected, but it read largely as a rehash.

15 posted on 08/20/2012 1:42:56 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: LadyEleanor

“they were allowed to detain him for 30 more days”

And “POOOF” goes his second amendment rights, he is no longer legally able to have a gun, which I think was the whole point of this. They can’t prove the terrorist threats but they can get him non-vol to a mental hospital quite easily and once that happens good bye guns!.


16 posted on 08/20/2012 1:43:50 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Makes me wonder why they were so worried about this guys posts.


17 posted on 08/20/2012 1:45:41 PM PDT by LadyEleanor
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To: trapped_in_LA

Oh yeah, you are right.


18 posted on 08/20/2012 1:48:42 PM PDT by LadyEleanor
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
From the Rutherford statement:

In a hearing before a judge on August 20, government officials again pointed to Raub’s Facebook posts as the sole reason for their concern and for his continued incarceration.

If there is no other item than his Facebook postings (such as threatening email), this IMO is an egrigious abuse of the law. I read every one of Raub's Facebook posts - they only go back to July or so. Only one could remotely be construed as a specific threat against individuals - and those were not named, just implied.

IMO this is gross overkill after Virginia Tech and the other shootings we've seen recently. I am glad Rutherford got involved with this. This kind of precedent needs to be nipped in the bud.

19 posted on 08/20/2012 1:50:31 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: All
Recommended reading ... Solzenitsyn's "Gulag Archipelago"

The psych war in Communist Russia has dissenters being sent to Gulags ... to think things over.

20 posted on 08/20/2012 1:56:29 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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