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1 posted on 08/20/2012 1:03:07 PM PDT by LadyEleanor
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To: LadyEleanor

The Soviet Union did the same thing.............


2 posted on 08/20/2012 1:09:16 PM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: LadyEleanor

Yhis is a bizarre story. Each authority denies it arrested him yet he ends up in a pysch hospital

The vid of him being arrested shows someone calm and not resisting.
very bizarre


3 posted on 08/20/2012 1:12:49 PM PDT by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: LadyEleanor
One time it would be nice for reporters to ask some basic follow up questions...

"We went out to interview him because of complaints that our office had received about people coming across his posts and perceiving them as threatening"

Q. What are the names of the people who complained?

Q. Which posts, specifically, were objectionable? What did they say?

Q. What or who, specifically, was threatened..and specifically how?

4 posted on 08/20/2012 1:14:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: LadyEleanor
This is basically a rehash of news from yesterday:

click here for yesterday's thread.

5 posted on 08/20/2012 1:17:55 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: LadyEleanor

No such thing as a former Marine.....


6 posted on 08/20/2012 1:21:37 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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8 posted on 08/20/2012 1:34:14 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: LadyEleanor

9 posted on 08/20/2012 1:35:05 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: LadyEleanor

this is just one step away from people being “disappeared”......


10 posted on 08/20/2012 1:35:10 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: LadyEleanor

We’d all be in jail if this really was the reason.


11 posted on 08/20/2012 1:37:00 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: LadyEleanor

According to his mother Kathleen Thomas, Brandon Raub - who has served his nation in two wars - was hauled off by authorities from the FBI, Secret Service and Chesterfield County PD, the Salemnews website reported.

FBI agent Sherry Grainger reportedly told Thomas her son was making “threats that were terrorist in nature”.

The writer of the story on the website described the affair as “Facebook Terrorism” stuff.

In reaction to her son’s arrest, the decorated Marine’s mother has called into question the freedom of speech in the United States.

Her remarks followed the abrupt arrest of Raub whose posts on Facebook have been under scrutiny. The case, experts say, is a flagrant indication of the US government’s strict control over social networking websites, above all Facebook.

Thomas said her son was questioned about why he was writing comments critical of the government.

“He basically said ‘I have some disagreements with the government and share this’, and they said, ‘You have to go with us’,” Thomas noted.

She added, “He was handcuffed, not read his rights, put into a Chesterfield Police Department vehicle and taken to John Randolph Psychiatric Hospital in Hopewell, Virginia,” Thomas said.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/257250.html


12 posted on 08/20/2012 1:38:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: LadyEleanor
On the other threads I recounted how the Kennedy brothers (president JFK and U.S. attorney general RFK) did this to a conservative activist and former U.S. Army major general -- but they were opposed by both the Right and the ACLU.

Edwin Walker was freed after five days. What were Walker's misdeeds? None. All lies reported by the hostile press.. so heinous were the accusations in the press that Lee Harvey Oswald attempted to murder the former Army general in April of 1963.

Personally I am shocked at so many saying that the Marine deserves it.. doesn't anyone remember Richard Jewell and how he was "guilty" of the Atlanta bombing? BTW, I predicted that the FBI would grab the first "loser" and charge him with that crime.

Maybe the Marine is not merely speaking as a patriot.. did the Obama/Holder Dept. of Just Us have to go the route of the Kennedys and Stalin? What's with these rich and ideology-driven spoiled Demobrats?

14 posted on 08/20/2012 1:40:09 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Recommended reading ... Solzenitsyn's "Gulag Archipelago"

The psych war in Communist Russia has dissenters being sent to Gulags ... to think things over.

20 posted on 08/20/2012 1:56:29 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: LadyEleanor

The full Rutherford statement:

Former US Marine Brandon Raub ordered to remain in custody

CHESTERFIELD, VA— The Rutherford Institute has come to the defense of a former Marine, 26-year-old Brandon Raub, who was arrested, detained indefinitely in a psych ward and forced to undergo psychological evaluations based solely on the controversial nature of lines from song lyrics, political messages and virtual card games which he posted to his private Facebook page.

Although the FBI and Chesterfield County police have not charged Brandon Raub, a resident of Chesterfield County, Va., with committing any crime, they arrested Raub on Thursday, August 16, 2012, and transported him to John Randolph Medical Center, where he was held against his will due to alleged concerns that his Facebook (FB) posts were controversial and “terrorist in nature.” In a hearing held at the hospital, government officials disregarded Raub’s explanation that the Facebook posts were being interpreted out of context, sentencing him up to 30 days’ further confinement in a VA psych ward. In coming to Raub’s defense, Rutherford Institute attorneys are challenging Raub’s arrest and forcible detention, as well as the government’s overt Facebook surveillance and violation of Raub’s First Amendment rights.

“For government officials to not only arrest Brandon Raub for doing nothing more than exercising his First Amendment rights but to actually force him to undergo psychological evaluations and detain him against his will goes against every constitutional principle this country was founded upon. This should be a wake-up call to Americans that the police state is here,” said John W. Whitehead, president of The Rutherford Institute. “Brandon Raub is no different from the majority of Americans who use their private Facebook pages to post a variety of content, ranging from song lyrics and political hyperbole to trash talking their neighbors, friends and government leaders.”

Brandon Raub, a former Marine who has served tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, was detained by FBI agents and police officers at his home in Chesterfield County based upon the nature of content posted to his Facebook page in recent months. Like many Facebook users, Raub uses his FB page to post songs lyrics and air his political opinions, as well as engage in virtual online games with other users. On Thursday, August 16, police and FBI agents arrived at Raub’s home, asking to speak with him about his Facebook posts. They did not provide Raub with a search warrant. Raub was cooperative and agreed to speak with them.

Without providing any explanation, levying any charges against Raub or reading him his rights, law enforcement officials then handcuffed Raub and transported him first to the police headquarters, then to John Randolph Medical Center, where he was held against his will. Outraged onlookers filmed the arrest and posted the footage to YouTube. Law enforcement officials have stated in press reports that Raub was not arrested. However, as attorney John Whitehead points out, if the police have put handcuffs on you and you’re being held against your will, that qualifies as an arrest.

In a hearing before a judge on August 20, government officials again pointed to Raub’s Facebook posts as the sole reason for their concern and for his continued incarceration. Ignoring Raub’s explanations about the fact that the FB posts were being read out of context and his attorney’s First Amendment defense, the judge agreed that Raub should be incarcerated at a VA hospital for up to 30 more days. Rutherford Institute attorneys are working to challenge Raub’s detention and the highly unconstitutional nature of the government’s actions.


23 posted on 08/20/2012 2:06:22 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: LadyEleanor

The names of Raub and Lt. Col. Aikin( sp?) will live in history of the USA as victims of infamy as much as Pearl Harbor. All the people who came and helped escort Raub into custody must be recorded so that history can judge these as USA versions of the Gestapo or KGB. I’m constantly asking myself, as a WWII vet, how USA people cannot see such actions make them and their so called allegiances despicable to the freedom this Nation was founded on and I believed I fought for and my brother died for. I don’t need/tolerate any excuse for such actions.


25 posted on 08/20/2012 2:10:44 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: LadyEleanor

Just heard of this yesterday via a local Marine (my son’s friend) who was in the ‘stan with Brandon last year. Dang.


26 posted on 08/20/2012 2:25:29 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: LadyEleanor; Albion Wilde

ping!


28 posted on 08/20/2012 2:28:38 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: LadyEleanor

Let’s see, a guy makes some posts on Facebook that are a bit paranoid about the government. Government responds by showing up at his house and whisking him away to a psych ward without a warrant or hearing.

Yeah, that is really going to remedy his paranoid thoughts about the government.


33 posted on 08/20/2012 2:56:45 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: LadyEleanor

What a difference a year makes. Last year leftist government officials were applauding the Occupy movement, which made numerous terrorist threats against the banking industry. Even naming bankers by name.


39 posted on 08/20/2012 4:21:04 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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