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To: neverdem; All
Never going to happen.. Here is why...

1. There is something in the Constitution that has a Freedom of Religion thing..
2. If we do ban Islam, what next?? The LDS??? That is opening a big cam of worms...

3 posted on 08/12/2012 11:13:17 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Romney / Ryan 2012)
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To: KevinDavis
What if the "religion" commands it's adherents to, Murder, take Slaves, take sex slaves, lie, steal, marry 6 year old little girls, have sex with dead wives, beat wives?


To "Respect" a "Religion", the "Religion" has to be respectable in the first place.

Ban the queeran!

5 posted on 08/12/2012 11:26:46 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: KevinDavis
Religions are voluntary.

NO ONE is forced to believe ANYthing.

ISLAM (S U B M I T ), is a religio/political form of life ... a way of thinking .. that demands adherance, under penalty of death.

There is nothing voluntary about being a muslim.

Islam is not a religion ... Islam is not a religion ... Islam is not a religion ... Islam is not a religion ... Islam is not a religion ... Islam is not a religion ... Islam is not a religion ... Islam is not a religion ...

6 posted on 08/12/2012 11:28:53 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: KevinDavis

No can of worms i can see. I look at Islam as Nazism. Even though Nazis had an element of pagan mysticism, we would never have tolerated a Nazi meeting/recruiting center here during the war because it could be considered a “religion”.
Same with Korans for prisoners, we wouldnt have given “Mein Kampf” to German POWs.

Islam must be seen as an existential threat, and must be eradicated from the earth.


8 posted on 08/12/2012 11:31:53 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: KevinDavis
1. There is something in the Constitution that has a Freedom of Religion thing.. 2. If we do ban Islam, what next?? The LDS??? That is opening a big cam of worms...

Islam is a socio-political system disguising its self as a religion in an attempt to justify its unholy actions.

10 posted on 08/12/2012 11:35:26 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: KevinDavis

...It ain’t a religion.

The religion? Its a beard for a 7th century mercenaries dream. Kill, rape, plunder pillage, take the booty ~ have as many wives as you want, as property. It has its own laws and constitution with a goal... to supplant whatever religion that exists wherever it takes root.

Here is a example of how they operate.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IstZSgniH8

You gotta watch that... it’s own constitution... to supplant and replace.... that means it displaces the American constitution and the American way.

Freedom , rights and liberty... all products of Christain culture and philosophy is antithetical to Islam.

Its best it be recognized for what it is.


11 posted on 08/12/2012 11:44:35 AM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: KevinDavis
Never going to happen.

When Islam infiltrates and spreads beyond a critical level, the hosting culture begins on a death spiral. The question is, are the constitutional provisions that are currently interpreted as obligating protection to Islam, a suicide pact?

12 posted on 08/12/2012 11:45:46 AM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: KevinDavis

>Never going to happen..<

Did you bother to read the entire article?

>>In Muslim countries, no separation exists between mosque and state. Islamic doctrine or sharia controls all aspects of a person’s existence, from the correct way to use the toilet to permissible forms of lying, or taquiya. For Muslims, Mohammed is the perfect man, whose every example must be emulated, even though by Western Judeo-Christian standards he was a mass murderer, pedophile, rapist, torturer, and looter. Furthermore, Islamic doctrine is immutable, and any criticism of the traditions and practices of Mohammed is considered apostasy, which is punishable by death.

No free individual will exists or is allowed when it comes to practices and observances. Sharia must be strictly followed. A mosque is a symbol of this ultimate authority and serves the function of organizing every aspect of life in a Muslim community. <<


20 posted on 08/12/2012 12:11:55 PM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered .)
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To: KevinDavis; rawcatslyentist; knarf; DesertRhino; Lion Den Dan; himno hero; ...
The Muslim Brotherhood does not have a right to build mosques in the US. Foreign sources of funding can be legitimately, Constitutionally prohibited.

Also, and if IIRC, Scotus found some "religions" that based ceremonies on ganja and certain hallucogenic mushrooms to be outside 1st Amendment protection. A religion that professes, and has demonstrated abilities to conquer societies does not fall under the 1st Amendment either.

For Conscience, recall that the Framing generation believed republican government should support the foundational institutions of civil society. Christianity, family, industry, virtue in general and respect for the Constitution help unite us, and in a sane America would be promoted by all levels of government.

Islam is making inroads because government has unconstitutionally stomped on Christianity for some fifty years. People will not believe in nothing and bloody islam is filling the void.

Islam is hostile to, and a dagger pointed at the heart of our republic, which is why the Left, democrats and Hussein love it.

22 posted on 08/12/2012 12:23:37 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Obamacare - Constitutional Despotism)
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To: KevinDavis

There is the erroneous assertion that Radical Islam is not connected with mainstream (moderate) Islam in any way, that the religion of Islam has been “hijacked by a few extremists” that the vast majority of Muslims do not agree with the Islamofascists. Such thinking is a terrible error and a grave threat to America’s national security, especially in this age of nuclear terrorism.

So what is Radical Islam and what should it be properly named? Radical Islam is actually the Islamic Military. The so-called radicals are not a fringe element; they are fully supported by the worldwide Islamic community (Ummah). If they were a fringe element, they would have been defeated long ago. The fight rages on because of strong support from the moderates both covertly and overtly. This means the Islamic Military (wrongly labeled radicals) is intimately connected with moderate Muslims who we have mistakenly labeled as innocent bystanders.

Moderate Muslims are not innocent bystanders. Moderate Muslims provide the base of operations which makes it possible for the Islamic Military to continue their terrorist operations. Hate America, demands to replace constitution with the Koran, and outbursts for Sharia law are preached openly from nearly every Mosque in America under the guise of freedom of speech and religion. Freedom of speech and religion has morphed into a weaponized tool of Islamic psychological warfare which is defeating America’s will to protect her national security. Any American who says Islam is less than perfect may become the victim of an unfair lawsuit by a “moderate” Muslim organization.

Why can one be so certain about this fact? The answer is the Koran. The Koran fuses together both moderates and their military. No Muslim dares to contradict the Koran because the penalty is — death and loss of personal salvation. The moderate Muslims of every nation, including those in America fully support their Islamic military because worldwide conquest is the primary religious duty of all Muslims. Fellow Americans if you believe that your local Muslims are not secretly harboring in their hearts an agenda for the conquest of America by Islam then you are dead wrong, and understand nothing about the Koran.

Moderate Muslims may not carry weapons and murder innocent people hands on, but they play the role of “wolves in sheep’s clothing”. Moderate Muslims use two primary strategies to make conquest for Islam. The first is dawa, which is influence peddling, “wining and dining” and manipulation. You make conquest by “pleasing” your opponent, “buttering them up” — bribery and back room dealings are common place. There is a “ton” of Muslim oil money buying preferential treatment for Islam in America. The second is taqiyya, which is outright deception and lying. Deception and lying to infidels as a strategy of conquest is one of Islam’s most valued “weapons”, a precedent set by the prophet Mohammed himself. Americans hear this deception everyday with proclamations that “Islam is a religion of peace.” This phrase is an excellent example of successful psychological warfare which has caused Americans to let down their guard, and made us very vulnerable to future terrorist attacks, even possible nuclear attacks as several experts have pointed out.

Recent history proves that the “so called peaceful Muslims” work as a team with their Islamic Military. They immigrate to a country touting what peaceful law abiding citizens they are, establish themselves, build mosques, increase their numbers and “bingo” terrorists acts start occurring in the host country. Do the attacks in Spain, England, France, Thailand, Bali, the Philippines, Holland, Sweden and the USA ring any bells here? All these attacks have been preceded by the establishment of moderate mosque communities which in turn became footholds from which the Islamic military could launch their terrorist attacks. The larger the percentage of Muslims that occupy a country the greater the havoc they wreak. The situation is directly proportional. Reducing the percentage of Muslims that dwell in the host country is the most effect way of stopping terrorism. Western governments must evaluate this fact very seriously if they wish to win the war against Islamofascism long term.

Have we Americans become gullible fools? As long as we fail to deal aggressively and comprehensively with the intimate Koranic connection between the moderate Muslims and their Islamic military we can never stop the terrorist attacks. Have you ever wondered why, so numerous the complaints worldwide, that Muslims are not assimilating into their host nation? It is because they are not there to assimilate — they are there to conquer the host country for Islam as their Koran requires. Fellow Americans please read the Koran for your self. Don’t take my word on it. You will learn first hand that anyone who tells you that Islam is a religion of peace is insulting your intelligence. The Penguin Classic edition, The Koran, translated by the Arab Scholar N. J. Dawood is a well respected version having sold over a million copies worldwide.

The best description of the symbiotic Koranic relationship between the moderates and their military comes from the Muslims themselves. They have a saying, “the poisonous fish swim in the sea”. The “poisonous fish” are the militants and the “sea” is the moderate mosque community. For example, for their 9/11 operation, the Islamic Military (poisonous fish) used the Al Farouq mosque in New York as the “sea” from which they “swam” to pulverize the trade towers. The next poisonous fish may be swimming from the sea of your local Mosque community with a nuclear explosion. Wake up Americans we are not fighting with bows and arrows anymore. We must take aggressive preventative measures to stop the Islamic military’s “euphoric” obsession to make a nuclear attack on American soil.

It is a great mistake to continue calling the Islamic military radicals because the term “radicals” has blinded us to think that the moderates are not in cahoots with their Islamic Military. In so doing we have violated the primary dictum of warfare which is to know and understand one’s enemy. Consequently, we have failed to understand that the Islam of Osama Bin Laden is main stream Islam – not a radical fringe. Osama Bin Laden is one of the generals of the Islamic military which is fully supported by the worldwide community of moderate Muslims, including American Muslims. Both moderate Muslims and their military have the same goal which is the Islamic conquest of the entire world — this is the primary religious duty of all Muslims as required by the Koran. Americans desperately need to understand this fact if they wish to protect their country from great harm.

By Martel Sobieskey

Says it all


25 posted on 08/12/2012 12:46:57 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: KevinDavis

Would we tolerate the religions of the Aztecs, Inca, and Mayans?
I don’t think we don’t have to “tolerate” a religion whose “holy” rights include subduing or murdering their neighbors.


40 posted on 08/13/2012 4:12:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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