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NBC News: Paul Ryan is Romney VP choice
WEAU.com ^ | 8/11/12 | WEAU staff

Posted on 08/10/2012 9:53:45 PM PDT by Brandonmark

UPDATE:: NBC News has three sources telling the network that Rep. Paul Ryan, (R) Wisconsin, is Mitt Romney's choice for Vice President.

Also the National Review reports the following: Earlier today, a charter plane took off in Boston, stopped in Chicago, then flew to the tiny airport in Janesville, Wis. Janesville, of course, is the hometown of Representative Paul Ryan, a top vice-presidential contender.

(Excerpt) Read more at weau.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2012veep; mittromney; paulryan; ryan; ryan2012; ryanvp; virginia; vp; vpryan; wisconsin
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To: haircutter
with these remarks from me I will now sign off and reconsider if I'll ever return..

If his message was that bad, forward it to JimRob. He will take care of it if necessary. But reconsidering never returning based on a thuggy message is...well...cowering to thuggery. Turn him in and come on back old girl!
141 posted on 08/10/2012 11:42:11 PM PDT by DRey
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To: cynwoody

The only way Obama loses is if head wins out over heart with the electorate. There is no politician who can out-charisma Obama with the general public short of the second coming of Reagan. So I think putting a recognizably strong intellect on the ticket is the right way to go. The conclusion the public has to come to is that “we like Obama, but we need someone who’s going to be better at the job than him.” The public needs to learn that Miss Congeniality is nice but it doesn’t mean you know how to solve the country’s complex problems. I don’t know if it can be done but Ryan gets us closer.


142 posted on 08/10/2012 11:43:49 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Thanks for the photo! Nice-looking family. (And I think Ryan is actually kinda cute! Which could be useful in getting a few votes here and there.)

But ... they live in a pink house? Really? Who lives in a pink house?


143 posted on 08/10/2012 11:49:54 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ( "Be Breitbart, baby!")
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To: jackmercer

One more point and clip, then I promise I’ll stop pinging you.. :)

The point is that the Dems are already running against Ryan, you hear them all the time say “under the Romney/Ryan plan..” They will continue this even if Ryan is not on the ticket.

The economy will be a major issue; Obamacare will be a major issue. Having the best planner and spokesman/debator on these two issues could be a major plus.

Paul Ryan on MSNBC: This is the rule of man, not the rule of law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyUYAsBWlTA&feature=related


144 posted on 08/10/2012 11:50:37 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: montanajoe

Unfortunately, if the election goes the wrong way there will only be one evil and possibly the end of America as we know it.

In 1992 I voted for Ross Perot because I did what I thought was the sensible conscientious choice and as a result we just went further down the “destruction of America” path.

If you have made your decision so be it. But my hope is you have had some time in prayer which led you to your position.


145 posted on 08/10/2012 11:51:24 PM PDT by bazbo (God would have you vote your conscience, men would have you vote for a "winner".)
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To: D-fendr

I’m just curious how Ryan sounds on issues of defense or social issues. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him on TV talking about anything besides fiscal matters.


146 posted on 08/10/2012 11:53:46 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: jonrick46

Rubio has had brushes with scandal. One of his friends David Rivera Congressman form South Florida is under investigation and very seriously so for living off a party credit card for ten years. Rubio charged $100,000 on that party credit card and $16,000 he spent for personal items. But had repaid American Express. If he were chosen he would have had to list each item and something that would not be good for the media and Obama to be harping on. There was also another scandal close to Rubio that could have come back to bite him politically even though nothing really was shown that he had done anything wrong. I think you will find that Romney did not want to invite the scrutiny about this stuff into the campaign.


147 posted on 08/10/2012 11:55:42 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: bazbo

During the Clinton / Dole 1996 I stayed home too.

But that was a democrat vs republican or liberal vs RINO

2012: It’s Obama (who just happens to be socialist) against us.

This is not Obama vs Romney

It’s socialism vs America

Obama vs us


148 posted on 08/10/2012 11:58:31 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: D-fendr

It’ll definitely be interesting to hear more about Ryan’s positions on other issues. Sounds like he’s a vigorous pro-life Catholic from this excerpt.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/paul-ryan-gop-must-continue-fighting-right-life

“In February (2010), Congressman Paul Ryan of Wisconsin wrote a paper for the Heritage Foundation titled “The Cause of Life Can’t be Severed from the Cause of Freedom,” and in July, he took issue with Mitch Daniels’ call for a “truce” on social issues.”


149 posted on 08/10/2012 11:59:22 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: montanajoe

I hope you sleep good at night (/sarcasm) knowing you made ‘SUPREME COURT JUSTICE ERIC HOLDER’ most likely within the next four years.


150 posted on 08/10/2012 11:59:50 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: JediJones
The only way Obama loses is if head wins out over heart with the electorate. There is no politician who can out-charisma Obama with the general public short of the second coming of Reagan.

I think his charisma is 3.5 years past its expiration date. And his spectacularly negative campaign will underscore the fact that he is not a nice guy, first impressions notwithstanding, that he is merely a Chicago thug with a funny name and an uncommonly interesting background (as far as it's even known).

So I think putting a recognizably strong intellect on the ticket is the right way to go.

Absolutely.

Romney has got to put forward a vision and a plan. It's not enough to say, Obama drove us into the ditch, and I'm the better driver to get us out (because I made a gazillion at Bain and fixed the SLC Olympics). He has to explain why. Figuring out the why has been Ryan's avocation since entering the House.

151 posted on 08/11/2012 12:04:08 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: DJlaysitup

“relaxation of student loan debt” so students can focus on those jobs they don’t have?


152 posted on 08/11/2012 12:04:18 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: DJlaysitup

BS pal. Obama is damaged goods, and it’s fire sale time.

I suggest you tune in for Jimmuh Carter’s speech at the democrat convention. Take notes. There will be a test.


153 posted on 08/11/2012 12:04:40 AM PDT by glock rocks (optimist / pessimist? I'm an awesomist - There's a dragon in that glass!)
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To: tsowellfan

One drawback is it sounds like Ryan is up for reelection this year. So is he going to have to withdraw or will he pull a Biden and stay on both ballots? Then if he loses the White House run, that means we’d be without Ryan in government at all to help counter Obama for the next 4 years. Boy would that suck. No chance for him in the Wisconsin Senate either. They have an open seat also up for election this year, and a Republican holds the other seat through 2016.


154 posted on 08/11/2012 12:07:25 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: driftdiver

Not true... Paul Ryan is a good guy. Definitely not perfect, but better than the majority of others Romney could have picked.


155 posted on 08/11/2012 12:08:37 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: tsowellfan

You give a good summary of Rubio’s appearance of scandal. Zer0’s Chicago tactics is to take out the opposition with the skeletons in their closet.


156 posted on 08/11/2012 12:09:22 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: DJlaysitup
Ryan isn't the worst pick..but not sexy at all

Who cares whether or not Ryan is sexy? This VP pick isn't for a calender photo shoot.

157 posted on 08/11/2012 12:09:39 AM PDT by Isabel C.
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To: JediJones

Good point, those aren’t his areas.

I’m sure he’ll go to school on those, particular to face Biden. Biden is a foreign policy expert, y’know. :)

I would hope he reminds America that Biden has been wrong about every major foreign policy issue in his long career.

Anyway, I looked up a speech of his on foreign policy, in general.

Here’s an excerpt from an American Spectator article that includes a transcript of the full speech:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/ryan-embraces-exceptionalism-rejects-isolationism-foreign-policy-speech_573194.html?nopager=1

“A world without U.S. leadership will be a more chaotic place,” Ryan said. “A place where we have less influence, and a place where our citizens face more dangers and fewer opportunities. Take a moment and imagine a world led by China and Russia.”

Ryan spoke at length about American exceptionalism as it relates to America’s role in the world. “America is an idea,” he said. “And it was the first nation founded as such. The idea is rather simple. Our rights come to us from God and nature. They occur naturally, before government.”

This belief in the American idea, Ryan said, should inform the nation’s foreign policy. “Now, if you believe these rights are universal human rights, then that clearly forms the basis of your views on foreign policy,” he said. “It leads you to reject moral relativism. It causes you to recoil at the idea of presistent moral indifference toward any nation that stifles and denies liberty, no matter how friendly and accommodating its rules are to American interests.”


158 posted on 08/11/2012 12:10:50 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: haircutter
with these remarks from me I will now sign off

Please don't do that. You did good. You dealt with a nutter most admirably!

159 posted on 08/11/2012 12:12:23 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
I think his charisma is 3.5 years past its expiration date. And his spectacularly negative campaign will underscore the fact that he is not a nice guy

It's just never going to happen that the general public will lean towards saying Obama is not a nice guy. It would take a couple of Mel Gibson or Michael Richards-style rants caught on hidden camera to make that happen. Obama will not lose this election on the issue of likability and wouldn't have no matter who we nominated. But he can lose it on issues of competence and vision.

160 posted on 08/11/2012 12:13:00 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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