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Penney records bigger-than-expected loss in 2Q
Associated Press ^ | August 10, 2012 | Anne d'Innocenzi

Posted on 08/10/2012 3:22:18 AM PDT by abb

J.C. Penney Co. is reporting a bigger-than-expected loss and plummeting sales, as its customers continue to be turned off by a new pricing plan that gets rid of hundreds of sales in favor of every day lower prices.

It also withdrew its profit guidance for the year.

The department store, based in Plano, Texas, says that it lost $147 million, or 67 cents per share, in the quarter ended July 28. That compares with a profit of 14 million, or 7 cents per share.

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To: abb
J.C. Penney Co. is reporting a bigger-than-expected loss and plummeting sales, as its customers continue to be turned off by a new pricing plan that gets rid of hundreds of sales in favor of every day lower prices.

Yeah it has nothing at all to pandering to the 2-3% of the population that identifies it self as gay, or promoting homosexuality with it's ads and a gay spokes person. Nah couldn't be that.

41 posted on 08/10/2012 5:11:17 AM PDT by Hope for the Republic (The 1st amendment is guaranteed by the 2nd amendment.)
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To: MinuteGal
There is something going on at JC Penney that goes far beyond the general economic sluggishness.

Sales tumbled almost 23 percent to $3.02 billion. Revenue at stores opened at least a year fell 21.7 fell, worse than the 18.9 percent drop in the first quarter.

Retail sales and the economy in general are no where near those dismal results. A 23% drop in sales is a disaster on a scale seldom seen in so short a period of time.

42 posted on 08/10/2012 5:15:05 AM PDT by Will88
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To: abb

Shove it up your smelly Obama, Penny’s.

You made your decisions to support politics instead of your stockholders and customers.

Live withit.


43 posted on 08/10/2012 5:19:29 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: abb

I guess that CEO won’t be getting the usual $25 million bonus this year - just $20 million.


44 posted on 08/10/2012 5:19:37 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: abb

That 1.7% homosexual population in the U.S. needs to support jcp, Target, Homo Depot and all the other homosexual-friendly retailers. Normal families will find alternative sources for our homes.


45 posted on 08/10/2012 5:21:24 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: mouse_35

It seems like the fabrics for everything are very thin this year. The shirts in the stores are embarassing - maybe people think it’s “sexy,” but I’m seeing every cellulite cell clearly defined.


46 posted on 08/10/2012 5:25:40 AM PDT by Tax-chick (If you can't say anything nice, have some more wine.)
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To: OldPossum

AP= associated pedophiles


47 posted on 08/10/2012 5:26:30 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood ("Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???")
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To: siamesecats
I had to read this a few times before it dawned on me..
“its customers remain confused by the new pricing strategy that ditched hundreds of sales in favor of every day lower prices.”
Seems to me like their customers (mostly woman I assume) won’t pay $100 for a pair of jeans unless it’s being marked down from $200 and on “sale”. Never mind the fact that the “original” price was only set to make the sale price look like a barging. LOL… got to love retail. Not sure what this all has to do with gay people. Maybe I missed some news.
48 posted on 08/10/2012 5:31:02 AM PDT by chaos_5
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To: Tax-chick

If you haven’t discovered Duluth trading company for clothes that last, you should. We’re not talking high fashion, but work clothes. I have no idea of their politics which might be a good thing.


49 posted on 08/10/2012 5:34:05 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: abb

I use to be a die hard J.C. Penney shopper but they changed for the worse (5 years ago or so) and alot of people noticed.

Too bad they don’t get why they aren’t liked anymore.


50 posted on 08/10/2012 5:35:53 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: chaos_5
Not sure what this all has to do with gay people. Maybe I missed some news.

Penney's adopted some gay friendly policies and used Ellen DeGeneres in their advertising. So, it's not clear how much of their drop in sales might be due to their new pricing strategies and how much is due to boycotts by customers who disagree with their gay friendliness.

51 posted on 08/10/2012 5:36:21 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Ben Ficklin

The Chick Fil A thing utterly refutes that.
Restaurant was full of teanagers and twentysomethings.


52 posted on 08/10/2012 5:39:34 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MulberryDraw

That is what happens when gays design clothing. All you have to do is look at the whorewear geared towards LITTLE GIRLS and young women- shorty shorts, mini skirts that barely cover underwear, midrift tops, halter tops- and it just seems to me that gay men want women to fail. Wasn’t there a situation recently where some store selling children’s clothing offered padding for young girl’s bathing suit tops to give the appearance of budding breasts in a suit designed for a 4-8 year old?

The whole company is responsible for their downward slide. There was not one voice of reason when some idiot said, ‘Let’s gear EVERYTHING toward gays- a gay spokesperson, gay women in the Mother’s Day catalogue, gay men in the Father’s Day catalogue, yea!!! Let’s do it!!’

And then when people protested, people who had spent a lifetime of earnings at the store, the company’s response was to tell the managers to walk away from the customer in mid sentence, leaving them standing alone without even listening to their complaint.

I feel sorry for the workers, but what worth do they really have in a company who has announced that the company is going to replace them with scanners?


53 posted on 08/10/2012 5:57:13 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: abb

Jim Cramer tweets : $JCP—i have NEVER seen a store chain have minus 20 same store sales and survive...


54 posted on 08/10/2012 6:01:02 AM PDT by SMGFan (SMGfan is not "Sub Machine Gun" fan)
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To: abb

From out vantage point it’s hard to see if the gay thing is the major cause of their problem - most of us are aware of it, but is the rest of the country. One way to tell might be to watch the comments on a more neutral site, like Yahoo.

But I also think that what most of us are saying is that there is a HUGE OPPORTUNITY for a family-friendly company to pull a Chick-A-Fill in this business, but they don’t (maybe due to their gay marketing advisers, who knows).


55 posted on 08/10/2012 6:16:39 AM PDT by BobL (Cruz'd to Victory - July 31, 2012)
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To: siamesecats

It’s NOT that most people don’t love homosexuals - many even have family members they love who have taken that train; it’s just that many of us don’t agree with their agenda or their overbearing tactics, or the sin itself - which Penney’s executives have largely chosen to embrace. Now Penneys is getting “unintended consequences” which can be either good or bad. Good for Chik-Fil-A; Bad in the case of Penney’s.


56 posted on 08/10/2012 6:18:42 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Belle22

Talbot’s hired a “man” of a certain persuasion about four years ago and he revamped and updated the Talbot’s look. I agree that the quality went down in some areas and the overall looks were terrible. I used to be a 2-3 piece a season buyer and I’ve bought one pair of shoes in the past 9 months (on sale).

I take the surveys for their consumer input and have seen the fall catalogs. There is more old style Talbots in the upcoming collection. I hope they haven’t alienated so many people that the brand goes away.


57 posted on 08/10/2012 6:29:40 AM PDT by PrincessB (Drill Baby Drill.)
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To: MinuteGal

Malls shuttering in some places, not others. The closest one here is doing fine: just opened a MASSIVE new Von Maur (sp?) anchor department store, opened a new Lego store (prime example of “specialty”), and I can’t think of any closed storefronts beyond the usual turnover. The Chick-fil-a always has 6-8 clerks plus backup staff.

That said, I have to wonder about the viability of classic department stores. A little careful shopping at specialty/boutique stores turns up better products at better deals than be-everything behemoths. Those offending basic sensibilities, tenfold.


58 posted on 08/10/2012 6:35:35 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: bert
The queer tie in is not the reason for the decline. The reason for decline is that the now fired CEO threw out all the rules of retail sales painfully learned over the life of the company. By standing retail on it’s head he lost sales and profits.

The company will now revert to some semblance of normal operations.

I used to buy all my clothes at J.C. Penney. They sell tall clothing, and I am just over 6'5" tall. I am used to online clothing purchases, and JCP often had good products at good prices (tall clothing costs much more than regular sized clothing). However, I have not ordered since the new regime took over. I daresay it is more over the lack of sales than anything. I used to get mailings or emails about taking XX% off an order of $XX.00 or more and this would often prompt me to place an order. Since the change from J.C. Penney to JCP-nothing.

The gay ads probably would not have kept me away on their own; but when you add in the poor retailing strategies, it just the extra push to keep me from biting the bullet and ordering. This kind of failure smacks of nepotism or some other reason (someone sleeping with someone, etc) that is not readily apparent.

59 posted on 08/10/2012 6:37:57 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: IamConservative

I took a shortcut through JCP on my way to someplace else in the mall. I saw NOT ONE CUSTOMER on the upper floor, and just TWO ladies browsing costume jewelry on the lower floor.
This was on a Thursday night at around 8PM.


60 posted on 08/10/2012 6:42:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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