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Growing Up With Two Moms: The Untold Children’s View
The Witherspoon Institute ^ | August 6,2011 | Robert Oscar Lopez

Posted on 08/07/2012 1:28:40 PM PDT by Hojczyk

Quite simply, growing up with gay parents was very difficult, and not because of prejudice from neighbors. People in our community didn’t really know what was going on in the house. To most outside observers, I was a well-raised, high-achieving child, finishing high school with straight A’s.

Inside, however, I was confused. When your home life is so drastically different from everyone around you, in a fundamental way striking at basic physical relations, you grow up weird. I have no mental health disorders or biological conditions. I just grew up in a house so unusual that I was destined to exist as a social outcast.

My peers learned all the unwritten rules of decorum and body language in their homes; they understood what was appropriate to say in certain settings and what wasn’t; they learned both traditionally masculine and traditionally feminine social mechanisms.

I had no male figure at all to follow, and my mother and her partner were both unlike traditional fathers or traditional mothers. As a result, I had very few recognizable social cues to offer potential male or female friends, since I was neither confident nor sensitive to others. Thus I befriended people rarely and alienated others easily. Gay people who grew up in straight parents’ households may have struggled with their sexual orientation; but when it came to the vast social universe of adaptations not dealing with sexuality—how to act, how to speak, how to behave—they had the advantage of learning at home. Many gays don’t realize what a blessing it was to be reared in a traditional home.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: adoption; childhood; culturewar; fathers; gayadoption; heaterhas2mommies; homosexualadoption; homosexualagenda; lesbians; moralabsolutes; parenting; psychology; samesexadoption; samesexparents; socialization; twomommies
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To: Hojczyk

ping


41 posted on 08/07/2012 5:11:51 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Dianna

I agree 100%. They just seem to take it to greater extremes.


42 posted on 08/07/2012 5:51:24 PM PDT by RatRipper (Obama, YOU LIE!!! . . .again and again and again and again, ad infinitum. . . .)
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To: Hojczyk

Have seen this in my extended in-law family. Two guys have lived together for over 40 years. (As far as I know, they have not “married”...yet anyways.) About 20 years ago, they adopted a beautiful baby girl, which creeped me out. When she was about 10, she started acting out, started dressing goth, and they put her in therapy. When she was 12-13, she announced that she was really a he and they arranged for her to start hormone therapy and surgery to become a “he.” I last saw him/her about 6 years ago and “she” totally appeared to be a “he” and I was just appalled. To do that to a kid at that age who is already so mixed up!!! What appalled me most was the complete acceptance of all the in-laws! They all think it’s just peachy-keen! Thank God I now live thousands of miles away from all that creepy “I’m OK, you’re OK” lib acceptance of deviancy!


43 posted on 08/08/2012 5:21:56 AM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: Aevery_Freeman
The children seem to be the overlooked factor in the gay-adoption scenario.

When I look at the possible reasoning behind the social mores and strictures of "traditional marriage", it appears it's always about what's going to be best for the children.

That appears to be the fundamental difference between traditional marriage and gay marriage. Traditional marriage is all about the kids. Gay marriage is all about the gays.

44 posted on 08/08/2012 5:35:44 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Thanks for the ping to a very interesting topic. What Roger Lopez says matches what many have been saying here for years.


45 posted on 08/08/2012 9:48:54 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter
Thanks for the ping to a very interesting topic. What Roger Lopez says matches what many have been saying here for years.

You are most welcome, noted FR scholar of sane sexuality.

I believe we are due for a spate of similar testimony as the children used in liberals' experiments with gay parenting since the 60s are now getting old enough to start repudiating the dogma with which they were raised. The author of this piece indicated he is in his 40s. Many others will wait for their lesbian mommies or gay daddies to die before they start to reflect.

I thought the author's labeling of himself as bisexual was most insightful, his having lived both ways sequentially and not wishing to take on the rage against the "ex-gay" label.

46 posted on 08/08/2012 10:52:56 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: kabumpo
People don’t know what the gay lifestyle is like - I’ve seen it from the inside - a level of promiscuity that cannot be imagined.

Against my better judgement, I let my naïve mother compel me to go to art college in the 60s, where most of my associates were either gay or plain crazy, and 90% were liberals. I learned things about the lives of gays and lesbians I'm still heartsick about.

So when I say homosexuality is a disorder, I'm not just spouting bigotry. I'm saying it with all compassion for the wounded souls I met and befriended and who confided their traumas to me -- many of whom have been in early graves for twenty years or more by now.

47 posted on 08/08/2012 11:03:49 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: Dianna
"...they are almost totally focused on themselves and what they want."

I'd enlarge this to include a large chunk of heterosexuals as well. How better to explain abortion, most divorce, money issues?


Credible essays have been written to claim that the easy sex and divorce movement among heterosexuals has, indeed, enabled the open homosexuality and gay marriage movements. Straights have so devalued marriage, it is now almost meaningless and seems achievable by anyone. They have been aided in this by our Supreme Court, which in paving the way for abortion-based eugenics and instrumental population control, have dismantled all of the spiritual and convenantal issues of marriage, leaving only some vague contractual traces.

An argument can also be made that the SCOTUS's collaboration in the birth control and abortion industries' marriage-destruction lobby played a destructive role in our present illegal immigration problem.

48 posted on 08/08/2012 11:13:14 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: Albion Wilde

Very unusual to be compelled to go to art school - did you have a yearning for an MBA, or want to be a lumberjack?
On your other point, I’ve been close to too many gay people to count, from a humble hairdresser to the rich & famous. None of them ever wanted to get married. The idea would have been laughable. And some of them were the kindest, smartest, most gifted people I’ve ever known - nothing like these snarling pack animals who want to destroy the world.


49 posted on 08/08/2012 12:36:58 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Albion Wilde

Very unusual to be compelled to go to art school - did you have a yearning for an MBA, or want to be a lumberjack?
On your other point, I’ve been close to too many gay people to count, from a humble hairdresser to the rich & famous. None of them ever wanted to get married. The idea would have been laughable. And some of them were the kindest, smartest, most gifted people I’ve ever known - nothing like these snarling pack animals who want to destroy the world.


50 posted on 08/08/2012 12:37:22 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: kabumpo
On your other point, I’ve been close to too many gay people to count, from a humble hairdresser to the rich & famous. None of them ever wanted to get married. The idea would have been laughable. And some of them were the kindest, smartest, most gifted people I’ve ever known - nothing like these snarling pack animals who want to destroy the world.

That was the way it was for many males back in the day; but a greater percentage of lesbians always wanted also to be mothers. I did meet one gay man in the 70s who wanted to marry a woman and have children, as long as he could still do his thing. He was in the fashion industry, where several of his role models, such as Calvin Klein, have been both married and gay.

Reminds me of the point in the article above -- the author realized that regardless of whether or not one can choose to be gay or straight, everyone must choose to be a faithful partner and parent. He has the moral strength to realize it and live voluntarily, not feeling compelled by biology, but apparently by his moral spirt. Well done.

51 posted on 08/08/2012 1:40:40 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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