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>>I don’t care what tactics have been used by Leftists.

Uhuh.

What's the purpose of a general strike, Comrade Wiley?

Your logistical support plan consists of relying upon grocery stores and porta poties during a "general strike".

LOL. What a Cluster Frackus.

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>>Earlier you were saying that Conservatives would be lowering themselves to resorting to violence on the mall.

No Wiley, I showed you an historical example of how when Useful Idiots provide them with the opportunity - thugs like Rockefellar and Co. are more than happy to utilize whatever powers are within their purview to take advantage of the opportunity to do what they always do.

>>And if you don’t have the spine for it,

I know where I was on 9-12-2009, Wiley - where were you?

Go sober up and put your revolutionary plan to storm the farmhouse back in the oven, Snowball -- it's clearly less than half baked.

I know where I was on 9-12-2009, Wiley - where were you?

Okay, and why were you there? Evidently you don't support that sort of thing. You have blasted the idea to do it again, only larger and longer. A.C.O.R.N. has gone to the mall just like you did. So was yours an A.C.O.R.N.-like event? Was it a Leftist event? Were you playing into the Rockefeller's evil master plan? Good grief. On some level, you must realize how silly your arguments are.

It wasn't a Leftist event because you weren't there arguing for things that Leftist's do. You were there supporting/asking for things that would make this nation better, return it to it's roots. You were advocating for less spending, reduced taxes. Is that a Lefitst tactic? Is that A.C.O.R.N.-like?

I was happy that many people showed up, to prove to the nation that a hell of a lot of folks still care about issues like that. People here were glad to know there were that many people there. Weren't you happy to have that many people there? Would you really have been upset if five to ten times that many people showed up, and stayed? So far you have indicated yes. I disagree.

We go to the mall. In a few days it's out of the news cycle if it ever showed up there in the first place. It's forgotten, if it even did register with folks in the first place. That's why I think we need to up the anti.

There's this mem that has been adopted by the public, that the values of U. S. Citizens have changed. I've even seen folks express that belief here. No they actually haven't. Some views concering indidental things have changed, not doubt. The bedrock beliefs have not changed. People in 36 states have said NO to homosexual marriage. Not one state has said yes to it. What we do have, is the DNCp propagating the mindset from dawn to dusk. How do you change that? Well, one way would be to support businesses that come under fire, like Chick-Fil-A. Another would be to up the stakes and bring the protest nationwide on an even more massive scale. Do something that has a massive impact on local communities, every community, something that transends the media, something they cannot deny or spin.

Some businesses couldn't shut down. Other's could. Some of us could participate. Others couldn't. Those that could not afford to participate could still place a sign or a flag on their car, confirming that they support the effort. To reduce impact on businesses, some of our people could take off work for a week, and donate a second week to the employer. We could take paid leave for the first week we were off, and we could take paid leave to cover our salary when we worked a week for the employer for free. Is this what Leftists have done?

The beauty of the Chick-Fil-A event, was that it went across ethnic boundary lines. It went across community lines. It even registered big in places like Hollywood, and in fact the whole Los Angeles region. Local ABC and NBC affiliates, gave considerablde coverage to it. They almost never cover issues like that. Laguna Beach has a huge homosexual community. Chick-Fil-A there was supported just like it was in other places.

A general strike would be impossible to ignore. Millions of people showing up on the mall demanding change, coupled with millions of closed businesses, and tens of millions of other people indicating their support for this type of projecet, would signal to other people who consider themselves to be a Conservative, that they have a massive amount of company even in their local community. Do you know what percentage of the people in this nation consider themselves to be Conservative?

Read this: LINK

Americans’ political ideology at the midyear point of 2011 looks similar to 2009 and 2010, with 41% self-identifying as conservative, 36% as moderate, and 21% as liberal.

If this pattern continues, 2011 will be the third straight year that conservatives significantly outnumber moderates — the next largest ideological bloc. Liberalism has been holding steady for the past six years, averaging either 21% or 22%, although notably higher than the 17% average seen in Gallup polling during the early to middle ’90s.

Do you honestly see giving people the impetus to join the growing number of people in this nation who consider themselves to be Conservative, as a bad thing? I don't.

I don't see that as a Leftist game plan. Evidently you do.

[You have blasted the idea to do it again, only larger and longer. ]

Because having been there and having observed the available facilities - I don't believe it is logistically realistic to move 3 million people into the Mall and have them stay for an extended time.
The architects of DC wisely constructed the nation's capital city so that a large crowd could come to the Capital, exercise its 1st amendment right, and then LEAVE.

[Would you really have been upset if five to ten times that many people showed up, and stayed?]

Stayed WHERE Comrade Wiley? During a "general strike" no less.   You gonna camp on the mall? Wrong.
You can't even answer the simple question regarding who will dump the shyte out of those (government funded) porta-potties. There's a few dozen portapoties in a parking lot at the Capital building; and 3 million people will have those filled the first day. What then?
What happens when the PTB and/or your "general strike" turn off the water? You gonna drink goose poop from the reflecting pool? Got dysentery?
How you gonna deal with the sanitation and health issues for 3 million people during the "general strike" you're instigating, Comrade Wiley? Again, you don't have a clue. You're not prepared.   Not much of a cub scout are ya? Plan ahead ever?   You'd be a real hoot in Death Valley, stuck in the mud with your piano loaded on a jackwagon - "oops".

[why were you there? ]

Why weren't you there Mr. Armchair Tea warrior?
I was pleasantly surprised, as were many others, that we weren't the only ones who showed up. But we were there (and there was nowhere near 3 million or even the 1.5+ million that some buffoon retwittered)...

FreedomWorks, the main organizers of the Tea Party event in Washington this past weekend, has dramatically lowered its estimate for the size of the crowd at the event from 1.5 million, a number the group now concedes was a mistake, to between 600,000 and 800,000 people...
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/freedomworks-cuts-estimate-for-crowd-at-its-912-rally-by-one-half.php

...for a weekend - not an extended occupation.

[It wasn't a Leftist event because you weren't there arguing for things that Leftist's do. ]

Things like calling for a General Strike? Those kind of things Leftists do?
That's correct WE weren't advocating such Useful Idiocy, Comrade Wiley. See, unlike YOU we actually did/do care about what tactics the Left uses, and not emulating them.

Sober up and put your plan back in the ACME oven instead of your head Wiley - that's obviously baked enough.

You have blasted the idea to do it again, only larger and longer.

Because having been there and having observed the available facilities - I don't believe it is logistically realistic to move 3 million people into the Mall and have them stay for an extended time.

Well, having been there myself, and participated in events there, I do.

The architects of DC wisely constructed the nation's capital city so that a large crowd could come to the Capital, exercise its 1st amendment right, and then LEAVE.

Please link me to where I said protesters would never leave. Please link me to where the architects of Washington, D. C. stated that those who disagree with the government must come and leave within 24 hours?

Would you really have been upset if five to ten times that many people showed up, and stayed?

Stayed WHERE Comrade Wiley? During a "general strike" no less.   You gonna camp on the mall? Wrong.

Where do one point five million people stay when they come to Washington, D. C. to protest? Yet somehow they get through it.

You can't even answer the simple question regarding who will dump the shyte out of those (government funded) porta-potties. There's a few dozen portapoties in a parking lot at the Capital building; and 3 million people will have those filled the first day. What then?

If we come there in numbers as large as three million, do you think some porta-potties could be set up with a ten to twenty dollar donation from each participant? This would also help to defray other costs.

You could come up with some of this yourself, if you'd spend your time trying to be constructive instead of destrucive to the effort.

What happens when the PTB and/or your "general strike" turn off the water? You gonna drink goose poop from the reflecting pool? Got dysentery?

You certainly do sell Conservatives short. Is it your take that all Conservatives are stupid, and can't handle logistics? An advance team can't move large quantities of bottled water into the area? An advance team can't move large quantities of non-parishable food stuffs into the area in advance?

I explained that I did not think certain types of jobs should be shut down. I addressed jobs that were important to the well being and safety of the public. You chose to ignore that to make this comment.

How you gonna deal with the sanitation and health issues for 3 million people during the "general strike" you're instigating, Comrade Wiley? Again, you don't have a clue. You're not prepared.   Not much of a cub scout are ya? Plan ahead ever?   You'd be a real hoot in Death Valley, stuck in the mud with your piano loaded on a jackwagon - "oops".

I'm not sure why you made an assumption that a massive general strike and protest on the mall would take place without planning, but for some reason you did jump to that conclusion.

Why were you there? (part you left out) Evidently you don't support that sort of thing. You have blasted the idea to do it again, only larger and longer. A.C.O.R.N. has gone to the mall just like you did. So was yours an A.C.O.R.N.-like event? Was it a Leftist event? Were you playing into the Rockefeller's evil master plan? Good grief. On some level, you must realize how silly your arguments are.

Why weren't you there Mr. Armchair Tea warrior?

I don't recall the exact reason now. Does that mean that I wasn't supportive of the effort. I live on the outskirts of Los Angeles, not in the Washington, D. C. region. I have come back there three times to support events, several of them for days at a time and at considerable cost to myself. I didn't that time.

I was pleasantly surprised, as were many others, that we weren't the only ones who showed up. But we were there (and there was nowhere near 3 million or even the 1.5+ million that some buffoon retwittered)...

From your point of view, thank heavens huh. You trash the idea of bringing massive numbers of people back there. You trash the idea of them staying for a period of time. Then you try to take me to task because I didn't come back there this time Why would you do that? You don't want massive numbers of people back there. You've made that painfully obvious. If all self-deemed Conservatives were to come back there, the numbers would be around 40 million strong. You don't want 40 million Conservatives back there. You're nearly popping a blood vessel at three million. The idea you might try to make hay off me not attending flies in the face of what you are continuing to espouse here.

FreedomWorks, the main organizers of the Tea Party event in Washington this past weekend, has dramatically lowered its estimate for the size of the crowd at the event from 1.5 million, a number the group now concedes was a mistake, to between 600,000 and 800,000 people...

Okay. That's not the only protest that's ever taken place on the mall is it. Some of them were very large. Somehow Washington made it through. Imagine that.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/freedomworks-cuts-estimate-for-crowd-at-its-912-rally-by-one-half.php

...for a weekend - not an extended occupation.

Honestly, this has sounded from the start like you were on Democrat Underground and angry that a Conservative group might get fired up enough to put our leaders on notice, that things would not procede as usual until some changes were made. Your terminology mimics the terminology they use to trash Conservatives. Extended occupation? What extended occupation? Did I suggest we take over goverment buildings? Did I suggest we should force government officials out of their offices? I'm talking about gathering on the mall, and or other places where large numbers of people could overflow to. How is that an occupation? If what I am describing is an occupation, then any group that gathers on the mall is an occupation, and the only debate would be size or percentage related.

It wasn't a Leftist event because you weren't there arguing for things that Leftist's do.

Things like calling for a General Strike?   Those kind of things Leftists do?

Just because Leftists are the only group you can remember who has used a general strike to get their views aired, that doesn't mean that if the issue were important enough, that Conservatives couldn't use the same tactic to put our leadership on notice. And if the issue were important enough, it could actually be wrong not to support something like this.

We don't approve of taking up arms and overtaking the government by force. There are only so many things we can do. Why should we take one such peaceful tactic off the table? Is it that you don't think getting this nation back on track is important enough?

That's correct WE weren't advocating such Useful Idiocy, Comrade Wiley. See, unlike YOU we actually did/do care about what tactics the Left uses, and not emulating them.

Okay, then you don't think the situation that presents itself right now is important enough for Conservatives to take drastic measures. You are content to hold a protest every five years, and call it a day. And then if someone else proposes something to up the game, you get angry and call them Comrade Wiley.

Evidently it's your perception that a Comrade Wiley would want:

1. a return to our founding principles
2. a return to honoring our founding documents
3. an immediate transition to reducing abortions to zero.
4. an immediate transformation of the $700 billion dollar a year welfare system to near zero within two years
5. an immediate transformation of our out of control spending, to not only get back to balaced budgets, but start paying down our debt as rapidly as possible
6. an immediate return to respecting the beliefs and practices of religious citizens, and their underpining of our founding documents
7. an immediate reduction on the intrusive measures our government is using against the Citizens of our Nation
8. an immediate effort to lower taxation
9. an immediate effort to eliminate regulations on businesses, that keep them from starting up, expanding, and employing more people
10. an immediate tax incentive program to get businesses to bring back jobs to the United States
11. an immediate repeal of every tenet of Obamacare
12. an immediate ceasation of the dismantling of our military
13. an immediate implementation of policies that would extract the government from Social Security, Medicare, and the education system
14. an immediate implementation of policies that would stop illegal immigration dead in it's tracks, stop any government funds to them whatsoever, and the facilitation of moving them back to the nation of thir origin
15. an immediate defunding of many leftist programs
16. an immediate top level investigation into election irregularities and fraud, with criminal referrals
17. and a whole lot more...

I mean it's okay with me if this is what you want to go on the record of representing yourself to believe, that a Leftist would support these things And if you are going to fight me tooth and nail here, and call me Comgrade Wiley, then you've done that more clearly than I ever could have.

Sober up and put your plan back in the ACME oven instead of your head Wiley - that's obviously baked enough.

Don't you really mean sober up and quit thinking our nation is in serious trouble, and we must take drastic action soon?
Don't you really mean sober up and quit believing in the things I listed above and desire to take action to accomplish what Conservative's goals should be?
Don't you really mean sober up and stop defending what I think would help bring our desires to a head, so that officials must sit up and take notice?
Don't you really mean sober up and stop trying to push a plan that would cause tens of millions of self-professed Conservatives to think, "Finally!", and others to take up the cause?
Don't you really mean, "Sober up and quit exercising your First Amendment rights if I happen to disagree with you?"

And you're the one calling me Comrade Wiley, trying to marginalize me, and infer that I am a drunk? Oooookay.

>>I explained that I did not think certain types of jobs should be shut down.

Uhuh. So now it's not really a general "general" strike.

"You couple the march on Washington with a general strike."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2915350/posts?page=40#40

Generally backpeddle much Comrade Wiley?

>>Please link me to where I said protesters would never leave.

"We just need to march on Washington five to ten million strong, and refuse to leave until we get some action on our grievances."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2915350/posts?page=35#35

How long is "until we get some action"? Sounds generally indefinite.

>>Where do one point five million people stay when they come to Washington, D. C. to protest? Yet somehow they get through it.

Five million? LOL. Where do you pull numbers like that from - the Southern end of your generally inflated digestive tract?

Hmm. It's just Wikipedia, but the only event they even show for DC is:

"An estimated 1.2 million people attended the inauguration of Barack Obama in Washington, D.C. on 20 January 2009.^[51]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_peaceful_gatherings_in_history

And so it seems your mythical 5 million person protest is generally MIA. Got a link Comrade Wiley?

>>Please link me to where the architects of Washington, D. C. stated that those who disagree

>>with the government must come and leave within 24 hours?

It's obvious in the design, Wiley. Please link us to the campgrounds and hotels on the National Mall that were built for your extended "until we get some action" protest accommodation? What? There are none?

So will the Metro be allowed to operate during your not-so-general "general" strike or are you generally planning on hoofing off some tonnage?

>>Is it your take that all Conservatives are stupid

No Comrade Wiley. Just generally vociferous and vacuous gasbags like you who quack about "general strikes" and pull big scary (generally unrealistic) numbers out of their arse.

>>I don't recall the exact reason now.

Uhuh. Of course you don't Comrade Wiley. Just like the Hippies who evidently, regretfully, "can't recall the exact reason now" why they missed Woodstock, either -- but are hell bent on recreating '68, and the rest of the "good ol days", to make up for it.

HOW, MANY, PORTAPOTIES?

Surely you must've done the math before generally blowing your 6 million mile wide pie hole? Or - you're just generally delusional.

Well anyhow, thank goodness your disingenuous nature doesn't represent the real conservatives who are steadily taking DC - not by the Millions, but one Tea seat at a time -- without any extra porta poties at all!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2915350/posts?page=64#64

How long is "until we get some action"?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2915350/posts?page=64#64

You asked:

"Please link me to where I said protesters would never leave."

As you requested, I gave you the link, and your own words:

"We just need to march on Washington five to ten million strong, and refuse to leave until we get some action on our grievances."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2915350/posts?page=35#35

Just? LOL.

Now just answer the question:

Just how long is "until we get some action"?

Evidently you're not any more prepared to answer that than you are to enumerate the porta poties required to service the physical reality manufactured by "5 to 10 million" individuals.

No ACME Do it yourself Revolution for You -- Comrade General Striker!

FAIL

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2915350/posts?page=64#64

FAIL.

LINK

“We just need to march on Washington five to ten million strong, and refuse to leave until we get some action on our grievances.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2915350/posts?page=35#35

“Just”

LOL @ U and your ACME “General Strike” Comrade Wiley.

No Putsch for YOU!

LINK

"We just need to march on Washington five to ten million strong, and refuse to leave until we get some action on our grievances."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2915350/posts?page=35#35

"A general strike would be impossible to ignore. Millions of people showing up on the mall demanding change, coupled with millions of closed businesses..."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2915350/posts?page=62#62

"Just" (LOL)
And remember - NO SLEEPING IN BEDS! err {edit} WIF SHEETS!

LINK

"After Teamster Boss Jimmy Hoffa threatened a general strike if Congress passes a labor reform bill (TIME, June 1) Editorial Cartoonist Jim Dobbins, 34, of the Sunday Boston Herald (circ. 293,904), drew the tough trucker as a club-carrying cave man guarding a skull-littered tunnel labeled "Truck Route, U.S.A.""

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,892597,00.html

"We just need to march on Washington five to ten million strong, and refuse to leave until we get some action on our grievances."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2915350/posts?page=35#35

"A general strike would be impossible to ignore. Millions of people showing up on the mall demanding change, coupled with millions of closed businesses..."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2915350/posts?page=62#62

Are you now, or have you ever been, a General Strike organizer?

LINK

"We just need to march on Washington five to ten million strong, and refuse to leave until we get some action on our grievances."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2915350/posts?page=35#35

"A general strike would be impossible to ignore. Millions of people showing up on the mall demanding change, coupled with millions of closed businesses..."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2915350/posts?page=62#62

FAIL, Comrade Useful Idiot.

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