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To: OldEarlGray
I know where I was on 9-12-2009, Wiley - where were you?

Okay, and why were you there?  Evidently you don't support that sort of thing.  You have blasted the idea to do it again, only larger and longer.  A.C.O.R.N. has gone to the mall just like you did.  So was yours an A.C.O.R.N.-like event?  Was it a Leftist event?  Were you playing into the Rockefeller's evil master plan?  Good grief.  On some level, you must realize how silly your arguments are.

It wasn't a Leftist event because you weren't there arguing for things that Leftist's do.  You were there supporting/asking for things that would make this nation better, return it to it's roots.  You were advocating for less spending, reduced taxes.  Is that a Lefitst tactic?  Is that A.C.O.R.N.-like?

I was happy that many people showed up, to prove to the nation that a hell of a lot of folks still care about issues like that.  People here were glad to know there were that many people there.  Weren't you happy to have that many people there?  Would you really have been  upset if five to ten times that many people showed up, and stayed?  So far you have indicated yes.  I disagree.

We go to the mall.  In a few days it's out of the news cycle if it ever showed up there in the first place.  It's forgotten, if it even did register with folks in the first place.  That's why I think we need to up the anti.

There's this mem that has been adopted by the public, that the values of U. S. Citizens have changed.  I've even seen folks express that belief here.  No they actually haven't.  Some views concering indidental things have changed, not doubt.  The bedrock beliefs have not changed.  People in 36 states have said NO to homosexual marriage.  Not one state has said yes to it.  What we do have, is the DNCp propagating the mindset from dawn to dusk.  How do you change that?  Well, one way would be to support businesses that come under fire, like Chick-Fil-A.  Another would be to up the stakes and bring the protest nationwide on an even more massive scale.  Do something that has a massive impact on local communities, every community, something that transends the media, something they cannot deny or spin.

Some businesses couldn't shut down.  Other's could.  Some of us could participate.  Others couldn't.  Those that could not afford to participate could still place a sign or a flag on their car, confirming that they support the effort.  To reduce impact on businesses, some of our people could take off work for a week, and donate a second week to the employer.  We could take paid leave for the first week we were off, and we could take paid leave to cover our salary when we worked a week for the employer for free.  Is this what Leftists have done?

The beauty of the Chick-Fil-A event, was that it went across ethnic boundary lines.  It went across community lines.  It even registered big in places like Hollywood, and in fact the whole Los Angeles region.  Local ABC and NBC affiliates, gave considerablde coverage to it.  They almost never cover issues like that.  Laguna Beach has a huge homosexual community.  Chick-Fil-A there was supported just like it was in other places.

A general strike would be impossible to ignore.  Millions of people showing up on the mall demanding change, coupled with millions of closed businesses, and tens of millions of other people indicating their support for this type of projecet, would signal to other people who consider themselves to be a Conservative, that they have a massive amount of company even in their local community.  Do you know what percentage of the people in this nation consider themselves to be Conservative?

Read this:  LINK

Americans’ political ideology at the midyear point of 2011 looks similar to 2009 and 2010, with 41% self-identifying as conservative, 36% as moderate, and 21% as liberal.

If this pattern continues, 2011 will be the third straight year that conservatives significantly outnumber moderates — the next largest ideological bloc. Liberalism has been holding steady for the past six years, averaging either 21% or 22%, although notably higher than the 17% average seen in Gallup polling during the early to middle ’90s.


Do you honestly see giving people the impetus to join the growing number of people in this nation who consider themselves to be Conservative, as a bad thing?  I don't.

I don't see that as a Leftist game plan.  Evidently you do.

62 posted on 08/10/2012 9:09:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: DoughtyOne

[You have blasted the idea to do it again, only larger and longer. ]

Because having been there and having observed the available facilities - I don't believe it is logistically realistic to move 3 million people into the Mall and have them stay for an extended time.  

The architects of DC wisely constructed the nation's capital city so that a large crowd could come to the Capital, exercise its 1st amendment right, and then LEAVE.

[Would you really have been  upset if five to ten times that many people showed up, and stayed?]

Stayed WHERE Comrade Wiley?  During a "general strike" no less.   You gonna camp on the mall?  Wrong.

You can't even answer the simple question regarding who will dump the shyte out of those (government funded) porta-potties.  There's a few dozen portapoties in a parking lot at the Capital building; and 3 million people will have those filled the first day.  What then?  

What happens when the PTB and/or your "general strike" turn off the water?  You gonna drink goose poop from the reflecting pool?  Got dysentery?

How you gonna deal with the sanitation and health issues for 3 million people during the "general strike" you're instigating, Comrade Wiley?  Again, you don't have a clue.  You're not prepared.   Not much of a cub scout are ya?  Plan ahead ever?   You'd be a real hoot in Death Valley, stuck in the mud with your piano loaded on a jackwagon - "oops".

[why were you there? ]

Why weren't you there Mr. Armchair Tea warrior?

I was pleasantly surprised, as were many others, that we weren't the only ones who showed up. But we were there (and there was nowhere near 3 million or even the 1.5+ million that some buffoon retwittered)...

FreedomWorks, the main organizers of the Tea Party event in Washington this past weekend, has dramatically lowered its estimate for the size of the crowd at the event from 1.5 million, a number the group now concedes was a mistake, to between 600,000 and 800,000 people...

 http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/freedomworks-cuts-estimate-for-crowd-at-its-912-rally-by-one-half.php

...for a weekend - not an extended occupation.

[It wasn't a Leftist event because you weren't there arguing for things that Leftist's do. ]

Things like calling for a General Strike?   Those kind of things Leftists do?

That's correct WE weren't advocating such Useful Idiocy, Comrade Wiley. See, unlike YOU we actually did/do care about what tactics the Left uses, and not emulating them.

Sober up and put your plan back in the ACME oven instead of your head Wiley - that's obviously baked enough.



63 posted on 08/10/2012 10:30:53 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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