[DoughtyOne]

LOL—I would expect a mother-in-law to say much the same thing (and with the same failure to grasp logic).

This exchange started with you hurling the insult that I had used a straw-dog argument, when I compared the situation we now have with China, with what the world could have confronted NAZI Germany with much sooner.

When I called you on this logic, and restated my position, you expressed the thought that I had made a solid point.

None the less, you thought it appropriate to take me to task for insulting you.

Even in this last post to me here, you're saying I have a failure to grasp logic.

Here's a clue for the future.  Don't insult me in the opening comment of an exchange, and expect me to treat you with courtesy after that.  And don't charge me with a failure to grasp logic, even after you've agreed with my original point after making an ass of yourself.

Let's reveiw:

To: DoughtyOne

If you follow the logic trail around here, you note that the people we have right here on this forum would have been arguing that trade with Germany would have prevented WWII.

Hop on board, everyone! Let's take the logic trail to the strawman!

89 posted on Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:02:00 AM by 1rudeboy

Other posts omitted in between these two posts...

To: 1rudeboy

1RudeBoy, it’s okay with me if that’s your take on it.

I think that it’s best if we avoid even the slightest chance of China becoming what NAZI Germany was to the world. China is much larger, and the impact would potentially be much more dire.

If you wish to dismiss this reality, I’m okay with how that will reflect on either of us. If no other person on earth can see the validity of my argument, so be it.

People trashed Winston Churchill too. I’ll never be as great a man as him, but there are things I will stand up for, even if people with the intellect of a child refuse to acknowledge the validity of the argument.

Later...

116 posted on Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:14:07 PM by DoughtyOne

To: DoughtyOne

There ya' go again. You start off with a valid point, and finish with an insult. Does that make you feel smarter?

And I'm not "dismissing" anything other than your bone-headed comparison. As for the rest, if telling folks the obvious makes you feel bigger, go right ahead.

117 posted on Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:23:19 PM by 1rudeboy

Review end:  (Additional commentary)

In post 89 inclued above, you started off calling my China vs Germany comments a strawman argument.  I stated that people on this forum who push trade with China are very much like those who pushed trade with Germany to acheive the same outcome.  I don't have to point out a place on this thread as an example.  I have seen it on the forum, and I'm not in favor of it.  It's topical, and very much a point that relates to the issue at hand.  I'm plan on outing the down side of trade with China, and comparing it to other similar times in history.  I'm not mentioning names, but the fact is solid whether you wish to recognize it as such or not.

In post 116 included above, I reprised my comments again in the first point I made in that post.  And then in post 117 included above, you state that I started off with a valid point.  Wait, you said it was a straw-dog argument earlier.  Now after all this, it's a valid point?  And then later on in the same post, you state, "And I'm not "dismissing" anything other than your bone-headed comparison.  Straw-dog, valid point, bone-headed comparison?  Seriously!

In our exchange you have called my comparison a straw-dog arguement.  You have said it was a valid point.  (If it's a valid point, then taking those to task who support transferring jobs, technology, and an income stream to China, is also valid.)  And you have said you're not "dismissing" anything other than my comparison.  I sure hope you have a neck brace on, because this kind of flip-flopping could cause a nasty whip-lash injury.

And as for the rest of that statement of mine, I don't need your permission to state that I my take on things is solid and I don't plan on changing a bit of it.  Acting as if I need your permission merely confirms your pinhead demeanor during our exchange.

This has been a great mimicking of Obama and company's logic.  Nice...  /s

[1rudeboy]

No one is arguing that trade with Germany would have prevented WWII. That is your strawman argument . . . I'm sorry that you take that observation as a personal insult. You shouldn't be so sensitive.

Maybe you should reexamine the need to write BS like "people we have right here on this forum." Where are they? Why insult anyone specifically, when you can insult everyone who disagrees with you on any number of issues?

And finally, just to put the argument to rest: trade would not have prevented WWII, just as tariffs (or whatever) would not have prevented WWII. And I certainly don't go running around these threads claiming that there are people "right here on this forum" arguing tariffs would have prevented WWII (well, I could, but it would be a strawman argument). Hitler was going to push east, just as Stalin was going to push west. The only question was who would do so first.