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No one is arguing that trade with Germany would have prevented WWII. That is your strawman argument . . . I'm sorry that you take that observation as a personal insult. You shouldn't be so sensitive.

Maybe you should reexamine the need to write BS like "people we have right here on this forum." Where are they? Why insult anyone specifically, when you can insult everyone who disagrees with you on any number of issues?

And finally, just to put the argument to rest: trade would not have prevented WWII, just as tariffs (or whatever) would not have prevented WWII. And I certainly don't go running around these threads claiming that there are people "right here on this forum" arguing tariffs would have prevented WWII (well, I could, but it would be a strawman argument). Hitler was going to push east, just as Stalin was going to push west. The only question was who would do so first.

No one is arguing that trade with Germany would have prevented WWII. That is your straw-man argument. But it was the argument in the day. Churchill was telling folks to quit helping Germany build up it's military machine. Nobody listened. Sound familiar? Evidently not. I did introduce the concept. Bad on me huh. Bad on Churchill too.

I'm sorry that you take that observation as a personal insult. You shouldn't be so sensitive. A personal insult? Yes I did take it as one. That's what was intended. I got it dead on right. And I called you for being the ass you were being.

Maybe you should reexamine the need to write BS like "people we have right here on this forum." Where are they? Why insult anyone specifically, when you can insult everyone who disagrees with you on any number of issues? If I have experienced a certain thing on this forum, it's up to me to relate it to others as I see fit. I have had conversations with Free Traitors here, and they refuse to believe that our current situation with China, could be similar to Europe's pre WWII dealings with Germany. In fact, I'm having a conversation with a pin-head right now, that fails to make the connection. I don't need to go any further than to point at you, as being the poster child for this type of neglectful thinking.

And finally, just to put the argument to rest: trade would not have prevented WWII, just as tariffs (or whatever) would not have prevented WWII. Unbridled trade with Germany helped it build it's military machine. Raw materials, technology, and an income stream, helped Germany just like it's now helping China. Where are they? Look in the mirror ass-bite.

And I certainly don't go running around these threads claiming that there are people "right here on this forum" arguing tariffs would have prevented WWII (well, I could, but it would be a straw-man argument).

Well petunia, perhaps you can link me to where I made a tariffs reference. I don't recall having made one.

When the subject of whether it's a good thing to conduct the trade with China that we are, it is relevant to bring into focus all aspects of what that trade could facilitate. I did so. You don't like it. Tough!

Hitler was going to push east, just as Stalin was going to push west. The only question was who would do so first.

Hitler went into action when he felt his war machine was strong enough to achieve what he wanted. China will operate under the exact same principle. Every nation that instigates hostilities does.