Lynne Fenton, MD ... what did she know and when did she know it ... things just got a lot more interesting at the medical school
Lynne Fenton, MD ... what did she know and when did she know it ... things just got a lot more interesting at the medical school
You think you might be crazy? Get treatment. No gun for you.
I think our citizen militia can do just fine without those on anti psychotic meds who think they need to lay down and talk about their problems. We can give them guns AFTER the revolution starts.
No offense to those responsible gun owners who do take meds or talk to a shrink, but sheesh. Crazy and guns don't mix well.
The line between crazy and genius is a thin one.
And I was thinking he was a loser who couldn’t get a girlfriend. Guess I was wrong.
Boy, if Holmes was paying for this treatment, he got ripped off.
She did not respond to calls to her home and office
No doubt. ..
Bet the university was paying her 100k per year....
This would be like taking your vehicle to a mechanic, and having all your wheels fall off on the way home...
Oh yeah!
Looking at her pic, she's got that "we are the world" academia Pollyanna look going on.
I’m a shrink, and have dealt with pretty rough crowds most of my career. For 25 years, I have seen several hundred new patients every year who want to do nothing more than kill themselves or someone else. If any of them ever do, my a$$ could be grass professionally.
To top it off, the law ties my hands about what I can and can’t do, and to top it off even further, law dictates - unlike LEOs or ANY other profession - that it is MY responsibility (sitting in my office) to protect all the people involved.
Anyone who hasn’t walked in the shoes of this doctor, and who doesn’t lay their careers on the line repeatedly, trying to treat dangerous illnesses with less than perfect but most often life-saving medicines, can go pound sand.
All this fiend had were some pathological personality characteristics, which could not cloud his grasp of right and wrong sufficiently to know what he was doing was the ultimate of evils. His internship at Salk showed he wasn't really up to par for the PhD program he eventually enrolled in. That means he was not judged by Salk's Johnson to be capable of independent original research. Graduating from UC Riverside post internship, showed he had the ability to copy and make one of the comic book scenarios of evil he enjoyed come to life.
He's basically just a spoiled kid whose world view and outlook collapsed and he decided to commit suicide by creating and playing a real life evil 'toon where his pain was spread as much as he could. Contacting this psychiatrist is just part of the game he set up and forced folks to play.
so Romney was right when he said the mutt bought guns illegally since he MUST have lied on the yellow sheets...Re: “Schizophrenia”
I immediately thought about this issue after reading a summary biography of the 24 year old James Holmes.
Schizophrenia strikes predominantly in young males.
The prime age for first symptoms is 18-25.
So, she’d have to notify police IF he named specific people, but he could not have done that. Dark theater, shooting randomly. So that kind of threat probably does not warrant notifying police. WHY? There is the question.
So, she’d have to notify police IF he named specific people, but he could not have done that. Dark theater, shooting randomly. So that kind of threat probably does not warrant notifying police. WHY? There is the question.
Psychiatrists have been drugging people to give them an apparency of normalcy, and then inflicting homicidal maniacs on the rest of us for decades now.
The old, "He didn't take his meds" alibi is wearing thin.
I say, make them criminally liable.
Soldiers...working class conservative men in general: stay away from psychs. It’s stylish for the wealthy socialists to see psychs., but they can afford to pay to cover their tracks—even having courts bury their criminal histories.
Besides, psychs. don’t cure anyone. Keep yourselves healthy by staying physically active, and avoid thinking too much about anything other than technical tasks and personal strategies (getting things done, avoiding troubles, etc.).
The political/regulator class is about to outlaw firearms for everyone who doesn’t play their “progressive” social games.
Uh....is it a full moon for Freepers or?
” but we do know that the doc failed.”
Uh, no...”we” don’t. Did someone here think that psychiatrists can cure and control schizophrenia?
Anyone here aware of the big sea change in the mental health field about 20 years ago where Health Services people working with gov emptied the mental hospitals, supposedly for humanitarian reasons? Know how hard it is to keep a suicidal person in a psych ward against their will? I used to work for a clinical psychologist. One of her clients had her phone number written across her arm - during close, persistent questioning, she admitted that she planned to kill herself and the phone number would help police notify her family. (Note: No one made her go to that psychologist, what if she had acted calm that day and wore long sleeves? Human behavior is not easily controlled by outside observers, right?) So the psychologist was glad to get her admitted to the psych ward at the hospital...which promptly released her 24 hours later. It is HARD to get someone in and even harder to keep them in.
If this doc in the OP was being exposed for unethical or concealed info required to be passed to police - I’d expect the kind of accusations seen on this thread. However, what triggered all the sneering accusations was the mere fact that he had seen a psychiatrist. Now, I don’t know if he did it as a cover story or not - let’s find out. But this guy was supposedly planning for awhile - just how likely is it that he went to all that trouble and then went and told a psych all about it? He still wanted to carry out the plan, right? He’d probably check to find out what the Doc would have to relay right?
At the psychologist’s office where I used to work, just leaving the front door open for sunshine and air attracted disturbed people to come into the office and start asking the psychologist VERY detailed questions about what she’d have to report IF it were reported to her. Seems like the monster who calls himself the Joker would have done SOME search on that right?
I am curious, though. Just what is the master plan for people who become schizophrenic? If anyone who tries to help them is guilty of anything they do, then no one will help them. It’s a mental illness, people. Don’t we want them treated? There’s no cure - do you want these people ‘put down’ like dogs? I think having Schizophrenia must be bad enough without being denied any possible treatment or perhaps being automatically incarcerated. But hey if there was a way to know who was dangerous, I’d be in favor of incarceration. But there isn’t a reliable way to predict behavior and states like mine have largely abandoned the idea of hospitalization for people with severe mental illness much to the dismay of families, communities, and even some of these patients. I don’t know all the answers but I am just taken aback by the assumptions made by many on this thread.
After reading some of these posts, I don’t know why some of you didn’t suggest burning anyone with severe mental illness and perhaps any doc who tries to help them.
I suspect he was setting up an insanity defense but I’ll wait to find out more. Some professional commentators (talking heads) have said they think he’s genuinely ill. I dunno, but I will wait to find out who did what before vilifying the mentally ill (I think they have enough problems) or those who try to treat them.
Charles Whitman was seeing a psychiatrist too and even told him that sometimes he felt like taking a rifle up into the tower and shooting people.
I bet Jimmy Holmes said some similiar things.