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Lynne Fenton, MD ... what did she know and when did she know it ... things just got a lot more interesting at the medical school

1 posted on 07/27/2012 1:06:43 PM PDT by Zakeet
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Give Dr. Fenton an F. If he showed up with his bushy orange hair, give her an F-.


2 posted on 07/27/2012 1:09:09 PM PDT by txrefugee
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Lawyer Up Lady!! ...you’re gonna need a good one!


3 posted on 07/27/2012 1:09:27 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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Before we rush to crucify Dr. Fenton (and I am no fan of shrinks), we should find out what kind of legal roadblocks would have been in the way of her notifying authorities of what had come out of her sessions with Holmes.


4 posted on 07/27/2012 1:12:40 PM PDT by dirtboy
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Probably was taking the medication Prozac


5 posted on 07/27/2012 1:14:39 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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I've yet to witness an exorcism; I've yet to even see the attempt made. But I would be fascinated to see what a little time with a Bible and a man of God could accomplish with Holmes.


6 posted on 07/27/2012 1:15:43 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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What med’s did she have him on?


7 posted on 07/27/2012 1:16:09 PM PDT by fso301
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Interesting:

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/07/25/packaged-warning-psychiatrist-protocol-when-receiving-threats-from-patients/

Psychiatrists who knowingly do not notify authorities when receiving this kind of information are subject to civil suits as well as disciplinary action from licensing authorities, Ablow said.

If a person is named in a patient’s threat, psychiatrists are required to go one step further. In a Supreme Court of California case known as the Tarasoff case, a patient had confided with a psychiatrist that he had intentions of killing a girl he had been stalking. While the psychiatrist contacted the police about detaining his patient, he did not notify the woman herself, and she was later stabbed and killed by the patient.

The Tarasoff case ruling set a precedent that mental health professionals would be required to notify people who had been specifically named by their patients as targets for harm.

“If it’s a named victim, that person has to be alerted,” Ablow said. “If James Holmes had said these three people by name are intended, even if [his psychiatrist] did tell police, [they] still have to alert the people named and tell them this person has said he intends to take your life.”

“So the first question: Was this his psychiatrist?” Ablow added. “If it was… if he thought this would constitute a significant threat, he would have been required to put Holmes in a locked psychiatric unit even if it required police intervention.”

However, First noted that it can sometimes be difficult to determine whether or not something a patient says in confidence is a significant danger or if it’s just expressing thoughts that they can’t say to anyone else.


8 posted on 07/27/2012 1:16:47 PM PDT by dirtboy
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As a university professor, the odds are that Lynne Fenton is a Democrat and 0-supporter. She may even support 0-care. If this is true, we can play the blame game too.


9 posted on 07/27/2012 1:16:47 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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Based upon “studies” they say the higher your education the more likely you are to be a liberal....ergo, the shooter was a liberal since he was a PhD student.


10 posted on 07/27/2012 1:17:08 PM PDT by jrestrepo (See you all in Galt's gulch)
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12 posted on 07/27/2012 1:18:40 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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Dr. Fenton, if this man was deeply disturbed and killed all those people, how do you FEEL about that?


13 posted on 07/27/2012 1:18:50 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Racism is not dead...it is on life support - kept alive by politicians..." - Thomas Sowell)
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She has kind of a crazy smile herself. My wild guess is she was away on vacation when her patient went berserk. He felt abandoned and this pushed him over the edge


14 posted on 07/27/2012 1:20:29 PM PDT by dennisw
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Ruh Roh!


15 posted on 07/27/2012 1:22:07 PM PDT by matthew fuller (I will be voting for the real American for President.)
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When the shooting first occurred, a business acquaintance was asking me (politely) about the usual gun control issues that usually arise after an incident of this sort. I answered all his questions (politely) and then mentioned to him that I would not be surprised to discover that the shooter was being treated for mental health issues and possibly medicated for same.
IIRC, quite of few of the perpetrators of these mass shootings in recent years had similar histories which strangely never get mentioned in the MSM.
16 posted on 07/27/2012 1:23:44 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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Seems like every college is in the health care business...

CU-Boulder has a policy requiring all students have a health insurance plan during their time at CU. You must select or waive the university insurance by September 5, 2012 or you will be automatically enrolled in the Student Gold Health Insurance Plan and billed $1,363 for the fall semester.

Ahh, yes, the scam continues...

18 posted on 07/27/2012 1:23:51 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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Psychiatry is mostly a cult, pretending to be a science.

If they ever “succeed” at whatever they do, its only when their common sense somehow overcomes their psychiatric training.


21 posted on 07/27/2012 1:31:09 PM PDT by PGR88
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Dizzy dame.


23 posted on 07/27/2012 1:37:31 PM PDT by miserare
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That does it! We’ve got to outlaw psychiatrists. Or, universities. Or, both.


24 posted on 07/27/2012 1:45:24 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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I hate to see her tarred and feathered before anything is known about what he said to her.
I had made friends with a Russian immigrant who was basically treated like a slave for 50 years before coming to the US. After about a year of socializing with her, she called me at work while she was having some kind of psychotic break. I cajoled and manipulated to get her to see a doctor. If this prof’s name was in the phone book I would have taken my friend there. Just what are we to do when people are mentally ill? I was GLAD I found a physician who understood. But even he didn’t tell her his suspicion that she was schizophrenic while she was in his office (too dangerous). The doc sent a letter to her home explaining her symptoms, detailing medication that successfully treats the illness, and encouraging her to see one of the psychiatrists he listed. She assumed ‘they’ (the people trying to kill her) ‘got to him’ and wouldn’t seek treatment.

Schizophrenics are tough to treat. What if that had been a family member? This form of mental illness exists and has to be faced somehow by someone.
If this prof psch is guilty of something, fine, charge her and exert the full force of the law. But someone has to treat schizophrenics and I am not aware of anything this woman did wrong. Can we wait to find out?

Schizophrenics are the most likely (among mentally ill) to have a violent confrontation with police. Heaven help us - what do we do with people who need treatment for this illness? Some are in locked facilities but there are many who aren’t and apparently the drugs used to treat can be very successful, allowing people to still have lives etc. And then there are those who won’t take medication or whose condition deteriorates (e.g., and then I get a freakish phone call at work)after being stable and ‘safe’ for long periods of time.
So far, with the limited info, this woman stands accused of being willing to treat patients for an illness she specializes in. If she broke the law - GET HER. But if she’s just willing to treat the ill, I don’t see the reason for the vitriole. Med physicians are the first to admit that they don’t have the command of the psych meds that psych’s have.


29 posted on 07/27/2012 1:57:21 PM PDT by ransomnote
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Many of the comments on this post are grossly ahead of the facts. There is no information on: how long James Holmes “was seeing” the psychiatrist; whether he revealed anything threatening to her; what, if any, meds or treatment he was prescribed; whether he actually followed any advice, etc.

I rather doubt that the ultra-shy Holmes, in only a few weeks, opened up his whole house of horrors to a stranger. Those who seek psychiatric help generally have mental problems to begin with — the doctor doesn’t create them. Psychiatric problems are difficult to evaluate and treat, and some psychotropic meds take weeks or months to start working, often requiring adjustments to dosage, trying different ones, etc.

Let’s not play into the Liberals favorite game: holding SOMEONE ELSE responsible for the perpetrator’s actions.


31 posted on 07/27/2012 2:00:43 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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