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13-year-old entrepreneur told no hot dog sales
Holland Sentinel ^ | Jul 17, 2012 | ANNETTE MANWELL

Posted on 07/26/2012 6:54:12 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Nathan Duszynski, 13, decided he wanted a hot dog cart, so he could earn some money (to help his disabled parents). But as he was setting up shop Tuesday in the parking lot of Reliable Sports at River Avenue and 11th Street — across the street from Holland City Hall — a city of Holland zoning official shut him down. Now, after spending more than $2,500 to start up his business, Duszynski is throwing in the towel, his mom said.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: capitalism; freedom; hotdogstand; zoning
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Zoning Nazi's out in force. Should be no surprise in MI.

"Just taking orders"??

1 posted on 07/26/2012 6:54:21 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

He must have made some odd comment about American families, and had a face set towards marrying someone of the OPPOSITE sex.


2 posted on 07/26/2012 6:56:21 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Texas Fossil; Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
Actually surprising out of Holland. Its pretty conservative.

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3 posted on 07/26/2012 6:59:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Texas Fossil

For another $10K they probably could have hired a connected lawyers that would have fixed the problem.


4 posted on 07/26/2012 7:01:24 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Texas Fossil

What is the secret to making a good hot dog?

I have eaten in many hole in the wall hot dog restaurants (usually run by Greeks) and got great hot dogs. I have bought them from carts and got great hot dogs. I have had them at ball games and got great hot dogs.

I will buy the best ones around here, (Nathans are the best with Hebrew National being a fairly close second). I buy the top name buns. I have tried every way imaginable, to cook them and also all kinds of toppings, condiments, chili etc.

I can make a hot dog which is good but never as good as those I buy at the previous mentioned places.


5 posted on 07/26/2012 7:04:33 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Texas Fossil

Just as well. After all, and in spite of the $2500, he really didn’t build that hot dog business.


6 posted on 07/26/2012 7:05:46 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: yarddog
FWIW....

Sandwiches taste better when someone else makes them

...but having made sandwiches for a living for a couple years, I enjoy them more when I make them.
7 posted on 07/26/2012 7:13:32 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: yarddog

It was not about “licensing” it was about “zoning”. And on top of that a dispute between the city and county over zoning.

It is like when you buy a hotdog at the convention center, and no one in the area is allowed to sell them to protect the center’s revenue.


8 posted on 07/26/2012 7:15:20 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil

In California there are hundreds of ice cream and hot dog, burrito etc trucks driven by illegal aliens with no kinds of license whatsoever sans insurance, inspections, etc., in the neighborhood barrios. Also many car trunk tamale sales go on outside churches on the streets after services on Sunday. Yet the local govt and cops etc just let them do it. Yet an Indonesian lady who wanted to sell catered food products out of her kitchen had to build an entire new wing with new industrial stove on her house and pass all the inspections.
This kind of crap has been going on in California since 1965 I can recall.


9 posted on 07/26/2012 7:16:16 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (???? . what??? Who knew? .)
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To: madprof98

Exactly, he did not pay off the POLs. That is tho only way you “build a business” /sarcasm


10 posted on 07/26/2012 7:17:22 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: yarddog

The best hotdogs I’ve ever eaten were Ballpark’s All-beef bun-length hotdogs in Ballpark’s own brand buns, topped with yellow mustard, diced onion and sweet relish.

Nathan’s and Hebrew National hotdogs are too salty for my taste.


11 posted on 07/26/2012 7:18:48 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: bunkerhill7

Yep.

Glad I don’t live in a city. Glad I am a long way from CA.

Sorry.


12 posted on 07/26/2012 7:18:59 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: treetopsandroofs

That is very interesting and might explain why I always make a ham and cheese sandwich, put it in a baggie, in the refrigerator overnight.

The next day, I take it out at least an hour or two before eating it so it warms up.

I do the same thing with peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.


13 posted on 07/26/2012 7:20:22 PM PDT by yarddog
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What is the secret to making a good hot dog?

There are many good ways to make a hot dog.

I will describe one style that is popular in southern New England.

1. The bun should be a "New England Style" hot dog bun. This style is also used for clam roll buns. The bun is squared off and white on the outside. Sunbeam is a popular regional brand.


The hot dog should be GRILLED. NOT steamed. NOT boiled. GRILLED. Over an open fire is best. The hot dog should be a premium brand, preferably a local brand (in CT, Hummels is a good choice) but Hebrew National will do in a pinch. Foot longs are preferred. Split the hot dog lengthwise before putting on the grill. Apply generous amounts of butter to the roll and toast on both sides. Add toppings to taste, but DON'T overdo it. Ketchup, mustard and relish are acceptable if not overdone. Celery salt and sliced tomatoes are not. Grilled onions are exquisite and will finish the dog all by itself.

I'm not saying this is the only way to have a great dog, but I know of none better.
14 posted on 07/26/2012 7:25:33 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: Texas Fossil

It sounds like the kid was winging it with a “Wouldn’t it be cool?” dream. It’s hard to start a business that way.

Before investing money the kid should have invested some time putting together a business plan. His local library has plenty of books on starting a business, and each one shows how to produce a business plan. Business plans include doing research on local zoning laws.

If I were the kid’s dad, I would encourage him to keep trying. I would suggest that he talk to other hot dog vendors to get advice—something he also should have done before investing money. Hot dog vendors would have told him he has to check the zoning laws. They can also clue him in on the best type of locations, the best hours to operate, where to buy product, etc.


15 posted on 07/26/2012 7:25:49 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (You didn't build that. We built that ... city on rock and roll.)
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If you read the article, he talked to officials before he opened the business and received the appropriate permit.

The issue is a dispute between the County and the City as to zoning enforcement.

This is just stupid. Please see my tag line.


16 posted on 07/26/2012 7:28:55 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: SatinDoll

There used to be one of those hole in the wall hot dog places in Tulsa downtown. I think it was just called Coney Island. I worked out of the Federal Building and would eat there ever day I was in the office.

The customers were an odd lot. There would be what appeared to be skid row bums sitting beside what could have been top executives from the oil companies in their $1000 suits.

I actually tried to figure out how they made them. One thing is they were very slow grilled. They would put out the first batch on the grill around 8 in the morning and they would not be really ready until around 10:30. I watched a delivery and they were Swift brand wieners in plain white boxes. The buns were simply Bunny Bread buns.

I will say their onions were very mild and grated extremely fine. Probably the secret ingredient was their chili which was mild but tasty. In fact I don’t think it was really chili at all.

Of course everything was fresh. The cooks were all Greeks, some of them could not speak English except for the typical hot dog phrases.


17 posted on 07/26/2012 7:30:24 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog

You have to cook hot dogs until they bust open.

Put some chili on the bun first so it doesn’t run off.

Hot dogs are good but I prefer Pollock Johnny’s .


18 posted on 07/26/2012 7:35:08 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Dr. Sivana

I will try that. I may not be able to get those type buns tho.

I have been seeing advertisements from Oscar Meyer for a premium wiener which they call New York style. I think I will give them a try. I generally don’t like Oscar Meyer but maybe this will be different.


19 posted on 07/26/2012 7:38:20 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Dr. Sivana
Nuthin' compares to a true Chicago Dog with dayglo-green relish


20 posted on 07/26/2012 8:04:24 PM PDT by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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