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Alleged gunman a 'quiet and easy-going' neurosciences drop-out
Toronto Sun ^ | 7/20/12

Posted on 07/25/2012 2:07:49 PM PDT by Dave346

MSNBC reports that public records show Holmes lived with two roommates at the apartment, which is reserved for students, faculty and staff from the medical campus.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Colorado; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aurora; aurorashooting; banglist; colorado; holmes; james; jamesholmes; jamesholmesroommates; terror; theater
James Holmes had 2 roommates in his apartment!!!
1 posted on 07/25/2012 2:07:57 PM PDT by Dave346
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To: Dave346

If he had two roommates, how did he manage to booby-trap the apartment and live the way he did? Or, were the roommates away for the summer months?


2 posted on 07/25/2012 2:10:07 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: Dave346

Were the roomies gone on summer break or something?


3 posted on 07/25/2012 2:10:33 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Dave346

Did he eat them?


4 posted on 07/25/2012 2:10:44 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Dave346

Yeah I’d like to know what happened to them.


5 posted on 07/25/2012 2:10:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Dave346

Hey, they are still repeating this canard:

But his mother didn’t appear surprised at all when contacted by ABC News for comment on Friday, before police had even informed her of her son’s arrest.

“You have the right person,” she told ABC. “I need to call the police ... I need to fly out to Colorado.”

That wasn’t the context of what she said at all.


6 posted on 07/25/2012 2:12:39 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

She says she didn’t say that, but how do you know? And does it really matter?


7 posted on 07/25/2012 2:14:17 PM PDT by jwb0581 (Borders, Language, Culture)
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To: Dave346

I wonder how much of the $26,000 in grant money he received from the Federal Government went to his firearm purchases? At least Holder had the Mexican straw buyers pay for their own guns.


8 posted on 07/25/2012 2:14:24 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: Dave346

And Holmes himself was their science project??? /tinfoil


9 posted on 07/25/2012 2:14:48 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: jwb0581

Be assured, ABC was taping the call to the mother. Guaranteed and if she said what they reported, we would be hearing it 24/7.


10 posted on 07/25/2012 2:17:13 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: cripplecreek

From what other tenants have said, they believed he lived alone. I doubt he had two roommates in a one-bedroom apartment.


11 posted on 07/25/2012 2:20:50 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: cripplecreek
Yeah I’d like to know what happened to them.

Sure would be nice to know...
Too bad that judge sealed the case.
12 posted on 07/25/2012 2:21:21 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Obama hates Mexicans (Fast and Furious))
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To: jwb0581

I kinda care, yes. She says that was not the context of what she said.

The MSM consistently spins what people say for their own agenda and in this instant they are implying that his mother knew there was something wrong with her son.

This opens her up to all kinds of attack personally and liably responsible in the courts.

Further, I can’t imagine the horror that victims feel but, his mother is already wracked with pain for what her son has done.

The MSM is attempting to make her a responsible party for not reporting her son.

Not cool.


13 posted on 07/25/2012 2:21:57 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Gabrial

Not really:

Published September 26, 2011 | FoxNews.com

Not only did U.S. officials approve, allow and assist in the sale of more than 2,000 guns to the Sinaloa cartel — the federal government used taxpayer money to buy semi-automatic weapons, sold them to criminals and then watched as the guns disappeared.


14 posted on 07/25/2012 2:25:03 PM PDT by Bob Buchholz
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To: Dave346
You folks see this? Holmes contacted a doctor with his plans but the doctor didn't open up his mail. EXCLUSIVE: Movie massacre suspect sent chilling notebook to psychiatrist before attack
15 posted on 07/25/2012 2:29:11 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: Toespi

ABC wouldn’t be able to tape it without her consent. I doubt they did. They have said the producer took detailed notes. I don’t always believe ABC, but in this case I’m not so sure. Consider two mothers:

Mother A: I didn’t say that.
ABC: Yes you did.
Mother A: Prove it.

Mother B’s attorney: (Hey, ABC, is there a tape?)
ABC: (No)
Mother B: I didn’t say that.
ABC: Yes you did.
Mother B: Prove it.

Which mother is more believable? Which one sounds like she is trying to recover from saying something stupid to a reporter?


16 posted on 07/25/2012 2:29:26 PM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: mlizzy

Interesting. The gal below him didn’t open his apartment door - and countless lives were saved.

The doctor didn’t open his mail, and countless lives were lost.


17 posted on 07/25/2012 2:35:10 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Bob Buchholz

Pardon me, I stand corrected while my head explodes.


18 posted on 07/25/2012 2:35:43 PM PDT by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the White House)
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To: Dave346

“He was a quiet man.”


19 posted on 07/25/2012 2:37:40 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: jwb0581

They first asked if she was (insert name here) and if her son’s name was (insert name here) and she stated you have the right one.

That is how the conversation went. They blew it out of proportion making it like she even knew about the shooting.


20 posted on 07/25/2012 2:39:53 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: jwb0581

It matters because ABC is making up news, not reporting it. Heaven knows why


21 posted on 07/25/2012 2:41:05 PM PDT by newbie 10-21-00
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To: SatinDoll

Three witnesses said he was not alone in the operation. Only the police are saying he worked alone.


22 posted on 07/25/2012 2:45:30 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: RightFighter

ABC wouldn’t be able to tape it without her consent.


Not all states are equally stupid. Many states only require that one party consent to the recording. That includes the party making the call.

If you don’t want to be misquoted, don’t give a statement.

I can almost hear ABC salivating for a suit and their chance at discovery on every aspect of this woman’s life.
Not everybody has an entire news media running around trying to clean up their statements.


23 posted on 07/25/2012 2:46:15 PM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Vendome
Not cool.

The media, and the mother from which it never detaches, the government, have been and always will be the enemy. The Founders got it.

24 posted on 07/25/2012 2:55:24 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (If Bill Ayers had a son, he'd look like James Holmes.)
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To: RightFighter

The call was made at 5:45am. Those who went to sleep before the midnight movie screening/shooting did not know the “news”

Reporter: “do you have a son named James Holmes in Aurora?”
“You’ve got the right one”

Was she woken up by the reporter or had she been “racked with pain” over what happened all night long?

It seems to be taking her response out of context. Meanwhile, others in his circle may have been prior informed.


25 posted on 07/25/2012 2:58:25 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: dfwgator

He was a quiet man who played his stereo loudly.


26 posted on 07/25/2012 2:59:35 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: mlizzy
Police and FBI agents were called to the University of Colorado Anschutz medical campus in Aurora on Monday morning after the psychiatrist, who is also a professor at the school, reported receiving a package believed to be from the suspect. Although that package turned out to be from someone else and harmless, a search of the Campus Services' mailroom turned up another package sent to the psychiatrist with Holmes’ name in the return address, the source told FoxNews.com.
Do things really happen this way?
27 posted on 07/25/2012 3:02:30 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (If Bill Ayers had a son, he'd look like James Holmes.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Reporter: “do you have a son named James Holmes in Aurora?” “You’ve got the right one”

First ask, "Who is this" and next go "click".

28 posted on 07/25/2012 3:03:56 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (If Bill Ayers had a son, he'd look like James Holmes.)
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To: RightFighter

You can bet the ranch they have a tape of the conversation. 100% sure. If it cooberated their story they would risk the backlash and release it. Almost all taped conversations are legal as long as one party is aware of it.


29 posted on 07/25/2012 3:13:16 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Vendome

This article is dated July 20. The day of the shooting.
The mother made her statement a few days later.


30 posted on 07/25/2012 3:15:22 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: the invisib1e hand
Do things really happen this way?
Evidently so. If I was the parent of one of the slain, I think this news would make my head (or heart) explode. Of all people, psychiatrists should keep on top of their incoming mail, wouldn't you think?
31 posted on 07/25/2012 3:23:19 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: SaraJohnson
"Three witnesses said he was not alone in the operation. Only the police are saying he worked alone."

How can the police say he worked alone if there were witnesses saying that a smoke bomb was thrown from the other side of the theater?

Me thinks the police caught the accomplice and are keeping mum about it because he is not white.

32 posted on 07/25/2012 3:23:19 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

They called her the morning of the incident.

The mother made her statement at 0545hrs the day of the incident.

It is easy to understand that it took her a couple of days of dealing with the fact her son did such a vile thing before she could pay attention to the media. It was then she rightfully issued the statement calling ABC a liar.


33 posted on 07/25/2012 4:01:04 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: mlizzy
Of all people, psychiatrists should keep on top of their incoming mail, wouldn't you think?

That's a good point.

34 posted on 07/25/2012 4:27:51 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (If Bill Ayers had a son, he'd look like James Holmes.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
Me thinks the police caught the accomplice and are keeping mum about it because he is not white.

As in, "young male, 18-28, of Middle Eastern descent, who speaks Arabic"? Or is that just a generic "not white"?

35 posted on 07/25/2012 5:23:12 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: SaraJohnson

Yes, co-perpetrators who’ve suddenly disapeared. Isn’t that suspicious! Particularly as his two ‘roommates’ now seem to be nonexistant.

This investigation/case has been sealed by a judge. Why?

To protect the rights of James Holmes?

Or so shield the persons, presumably from our government, who may have set this up but not intervened in a timely manner?


36 posted on 07/25/2012 5:32:11 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: ApplegateRanch

yes, “Amish”


37 posted on 07/25/2012 5:50:11 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: SatinDoll

Or so shield the persons, presumably from our government, who may have set this up but not intervened in a timely manner?


Not that Hillary, Obama and Holder would ever break a few eggs on the way to Utopia!

If this guy was involved in OWS’s anarchy kooksville (Black Block), I would be shocked if the DOJ had not infiltrated and known what was happening.

Early on, but now scrubbed from the internet, Leftists were saying Holmes was one of their’s. I can promise you this - we will never know just like we don’t know about McVey’s abettors that never were.


38 posted on 07/25/2012 6:34:52 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Toespi

My point wasn’t really about whether or not there is a tape of the conversation, though I suspect there isn’t, since it was 5:45 in the morning and the producer probably didn’t take the time to get a recording system set up, and because I don’t think even ABC would be stupid enough to lie to the lawyer about a non-existent tape that they would then admit did actually exist. My point was that the mother sounds like she’s got something to hide, given the way that she lawyered up right away and had her attorney make an inquiry about whether a tape existed before she made her statement saying that she didn’t say what the producer said she did.


39 posted on 07/26/2012 7:20:58 AM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Mosk said today that he awoke Arlene Holmes and informed her that a man, he believed was her son had been arrested in Aurora and asked to confirm their relationship.

“You have to tell me what happened… You have to tell me what happened,” the woman on the phone said, according to Mosk. Mosk said he told her that ABC News had learned the 24-year-old had been identified by police as the lone suspect in the mass killing in Aurora, Colo and that the details of the events were still taking shape.

“You have the right person,” was her response, he said. “I need to call the police. I need to fly to Colorado.”


40 posted on 07/26/2012 7:32:14 AM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: RightFighter

I guess in saying “You have the right person” she could have meant “I have a son who is 24 who lives in Aurora named James Holmes, so yes, you have the right mother.”


41 posted on 07/26/2012 7:37:12 AM PDT by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: RightFighter

“My point was that the mother sounds like she’s got something to hide,”

Not to me.

“given the way that she lawyered up right away”

Given she discovered the media reported her comments out of context, the prudent thing would be to get a lawyer involved.

“and had her attorney make an inquiry about whether a tape existed”

Trying to get a copy of a tape in an effort to force ABC to use their own tape against them, to play the tape for the world to hear.

“before she made her statement saying that she didn’t say what the producer said she did.”

We know the media won’t take remarks out of context or edit them to fit an agenda, or to stage events to indict the innocent. . .oh. . .wait. . .

Actually, given the media called her at 0545hrs in the morning before she even knew what the heck was going on, and given the caller was asking if SHE was the mother of a James, and given she answered yes you have the right person (HER)*, and given ABC took that remark and reported she somehow knew the person calling was calling about a tragedy she knew nothing about, and given the history of the media (esp ABC) warping their reporting to fit their liberal agendas (TEA Party smear, anyone?), given the media frenzy and the absolute chaos going on it is right that she contacted a lawyer to make sure her side was reported. She did the right thing.

“because I don’t think even ABC would be stupid enough to lie to the lawyer about a non-existent tape that they would then admit did actually exist.”

All past proof that ABC’s lies and distorts, and edits tapes (Zimmerman), I don’t see myself agreeing with you that ABC would not lie.

Cheers.

*-Having being awakened by a 0430 call from a hospital when my son was injured on the job, I was asked, “Are you Mr Hulka, father of XXXXX?” I answered/mumbled, “yeah, you got the right guy,” it is easy for me to see ABC could have taken that answer of mine and reported in the same way it is reporting the mother’s remarks. ABC: Seeeeee. . .when we called Agent XXXXX father, he said, “Yes, you have the right guy,” thereby implicating me.


42 posted on 07/26/2012 8:48:31 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Toespi
Be assured, ABC was taping the call to the mother.

If they were, and didn't tell the woman so she could consent, they would be open to criminal prosecution and civil action under California law. California is a "two-party consent" state with regard to recorded conversations.

43 posted on 07/26/2012 8:54:28 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Thanks for the info regarding CA two party consent law.


44 posted on 07/26/2012 9:13:42 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

My pleasure. Though I think we’d agree ABC is underhanded enough to try it.


45 posted on 07/26/2012 12:20:49 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

You bet they are, and I still am betting they have one.


46 posted on 07/26/2012 1:29:29 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

It would not surprise me in the least if you are correct.


47 posted on 07/26/2012 1:54:56 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Conservatism is not a matter of convenience.)
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