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"The majority of peace officers I've talked to agree that gun laws only result in armed criminals preying on defenseless citizens. Instead of useless anti-gun owner legislation, what we need and need right now are tough anti-crime measures. Anti-gun bills only cloud the real issue. And those of us who actually battle crime pay the price."


~Lt. Harry Thomas: Cincinnati Police Division

1 posted on 07/24/2012 7:27:45 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

Back when concealed carry was being debated in Michigan, our county sheriff opposed it. He was thrown out of office and it appears that most of his own deputies voted against him largely based on his gun control stance.


2 posted on 07/24/2012 7:39:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: South40

Several years ago, a magazine put out by a police supply organization did a poll on gun control.

This poll was for the cops alone, not the chiefs etc. The cops that walk the beat or cruise the highways at night etc.

Anyway the results surprised me. Fully 90% of these line cops opposed gun control. Not even close to what the media tries to make you believe by always trotting out the police chiefs in their uniforms every time a gun control law is being pushed by the media, academics etc.


3 posted on 07/24/2012 7:40:41 PM PDT by yarddog
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***The Clinton Administration was particularly successful at enlisting police support for gun control.***

It began before that. Police organizations and the NRA got along well. Handgun Control Inc began to find a way to drive a wedge between them with the “cop killer bullet” lie.

Then the MSM and the movie made “cop killer bullets” do the impossible but the gullible public bought it.


4 posted on 07/24/2012 7:43:19 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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Cops are an after the fact force. They mop up the mess after the fact. You and you alone are the front line defense against armed intruders, contrary to what any cop will tell you. You hold your ground, make your stand, and repel all invaders who threaten you and your home. The police have no say in the matter. If the police turn on you, then they are no better than than a criminal invader, and should be dealt with accordingly. Even the police are bound by the rules of law, and they are expected to behave accordingly.


5 posted on 07/24/2012 7:48:48 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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*** He even demonstrated on nationwide TV the “devastating effects” that so-called banned weapons would have in the hands of criminals.***

After the Stockton Ca shootings the MSM jumped on the anti rifle bandwagon.

To show how devastating the semi auto AK-47 was they shot at a watermelon. It did not explode. They shot more, it did not explode.

So they used a special soft nose bullet fired from a different firearm to make the watermelon explode, and spliced it into their film.

On the evening news you saw the firing of the AK, then they cut to the watermelon exploding, but that bullet did not come from the AK.

6 posted on 07/24/2012 7:51:06 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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Unfortunately, many city Police Cheifs and county Sheriffs are political positions. Lib denizens demand much of them,


7 posted on 07/24/2012 7:56:15 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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My experience is different that this article. I do not find local LEOs at my gun club, although they can go there for free. When the do come to the range it is only to qualify, it is not for pleasure or improvement. They come enmass when required because it is part of the job.

My impression of LEOs is that they are just a different type of union thug with contacts that increase their wages year after year while the rest of us foot the bill while we haven't had a raise in four or five years. They are only a little bit better that teacher union scum.

I much rather have a constable show up and take into custody a criminal that has been detained by a private citizen than to have the police show up 15 minutes too late. It is a matter of personal responsibility. There is no personal responsibility when you belong to a union that acts as a collective and holds taxpayers hostage while using taxpayer dollars to lobby and negotiate contracts that taxpayers cannot afford.

9 posted on 07/24/2012 8:05:28 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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Anecdotal but my son is a police officer here in Illinois, where there is no form of carry legal for ordinary law abiding citizens, he polled the 45 uniformed officers in his department and every single one is in favor of concealed carry. None of those officers, in a tight spot, would turn down assistance from an armed citizen.


11 posted on 07/24/2012 8:39:26 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Free people, when presented only with evil choices, create other choices.(EternalVigilance))
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The International Association of Chiefs of Police

One of the most despicable rip-off groups in existence.
Nothing but a bunch of flatulent, fat-a**, do nothing windbags on the constant search for $$$$'s from the gov't and public.
Paid political thugs wearing the trappings of LEOs.

Disgusting group of lay-a-bouts, ner-do-wells and banquet bums.

12 posted on 07/24/2012 8:53:24 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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Recently I was stopped by the local police for driving the wrong way down an access road that I had been driving on for years. Due to construction it had been recently changed to one way and I did not notice the sign.

When the officer came to my car I had my hands on the dash and informed him that I was armed and where the weapon was.

I then displayed my permit to carry, my drivers license and insurance. He was very gracious and asked me to be more careful. He also said that my actions were the reason that I did not receive a citation.

Most of the Cops are good guys if you work with them. There are a very very few cops that are not good guys, be careful.


15 posted on 07/24/2012 9:35:32 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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I asked my cousin, who is a Texas DPS trooper, if he often encountered CHL holders who show him their CHL along with their DL. His answer:

"Happens all the time. CHLs are real good about doing that. But, you know, by that time, we aready know they are a CHL holder -- it comes up on our screen when we run their plate number.

Actually, we're glad to see a CHL come up -- because then we know we are dealing with one of the good guys!"


19 posted on 07/25/2012 6:23:26 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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