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Brian Ross of ABC Takes Heat for Another Blunder
Politico ^ | July 20, 2012 | Dylan Byers

Posted on 07/22/2012 12:14:23 PM PDT by centurion316

n television journalism, few reporters are as controversial as Brian Ross of ABC News.

The investigative correspondent has landed major scoops and won prestigious awards for his reporting on the Peace Corps, Solyndra, and U.S. antiterrorism efforts — to name just a few. And yet, he has also produced more high-level haphazard reporting than perhaps any other reporter on television.

Ross came under attack again Friday when he reported that James Holmes, the suspect of today’s theater shooting in Aurora, Colo., may have connections to the tea party — basing that on a single web page that listed an Aurora-based “Jim Holmes” as a member of the Colorado Tea Party Patriots.

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“Brian Ross lost big time and so did ABC News,” Jay Rosen, an associate professor at New York University’s school of journalism, told POLITICO. “Ross reacted and went on instinct… So strong was this instinct that it overrode common newsroom sense and any innate sense of caution that might be left in Brian Ross.

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KEYWORDS: abcnews; aurora; aurorashooting; batmanshooting; blunders; brianross; mediabias; mediamalpractice
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Brian Ross has a long history of MSU, making stuff up. This article recounts but a few of his excursions into dramatic fiction writing for the sake of ratings. While he may be leading the league in this particular category, this has become modern journalism and is the reason that people are increasingly ignoring these knuckleheads.
1 posted on 07/22/2012 12:14:34 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316
So strong was this instinct that it overrode common newsroom sense ....

BS. It wasn't instinct. It was pure libtard partisanship.

2 posted on 07/22/2012 12:17:36 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: NewHampshireDuo

Perhaps his partisanship is so deeply ingrained that it has become instinct?


3 posted on 07/22/2012 12:22:27 PM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on...)
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To: centurion316
His partner in crime, George "Significant" Stephy, is just as guilty.
4 posted on 07/22/2012 12:23:23 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: centurion316
I hate the liberal mainstream media.

The media have ruled the U.S.A. for a hundred years. And the media have put us in the mess we are in with the ever growing government (socialism) etc.If we had a real media and not what we have which is democrats/marxist political evangelists posing as reporters then we would have the limited government , freedom and prosperity that is aour birthright in the U.S.A instead of the decline and ballooning debt and growing government . it is the media that has been and is the greatest threat and problem.

Nobody calls them on their lies. Most idiots in the U.S. still believe the MSM. the media smeared Palin, etc and people believe the lies like global warming etc.

Even here many posted on and on about the BP oil “disaster” .Even here I couldn't get people to understand what the media was doing with that BP BS. It was no disaster. If the media hadn't lied about that then why aren't there any stories of the “environmental damage” now . The stories stopped almost immediately after the live video showed them shutting down the spill. This is just one example but there are millions.

5 posted on 07/22/2012 12:24:26 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
It was pure libtard partisanship.

It was certainly that, but these guys and gals would sell their own mother into slavery to advance their careers. The media will betray their liberal cause from time to time, but they never betray their own self interest.

6 posted on 07/22/2012 12:28:22 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

Perhaps a multi-million dollar lawsuit against him personally and a second one against ABC might get their attention.


7 posted on 07/22/2012 12:30:34 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: centurion316

Who believes half the crap these talking heads spout anymore?
Once the MSM sold out and went all in for Obama, their days were over with most folks except the Obama supporters.


8 posted on 07/22/2012 12:36:22 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: centurion316
This was NOT a blunder. This was an intentional act made to plant an idea in the head of John Q. Public.

Then, QUIETLY apologize (not that it will help the lawsuit much), and count on the apology being missed by most.

9 posted on 07/22/2012 12:40:47 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: centurion316

That one “awa s...” wips out all of his attaboys


10 posted on 07/22/2012 12:43:11 PM PDT by Cannon6
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To: SECURE AMERICA
My people perish from a lack of knowledge Hosea 4:6

And a major cause is the Liberal slant of the MSM.

11 posted on 07/22/2012 12:46:38 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: centurion316
"...few reporters are as controversial as Brian Ross of ABC News the Obama reelection team.
12 posted on 07/22/2012 12:49:11 PM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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To: centurion316
“I would emphatically say its not a left-right thing. I’ve never discerned in his reporting any ideological movement,” one ABC News source told POLITICO. “It’s the big sensational story that he’s after, and he’ll do the same on either side.”

Spoken like a true liberal journalist and a**hole.

13 posted on 07/22/2012 12:51:25 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: Lazamataz
This was NOT a blunder

You are certainly right about that, this was intentional with an assumption that the outcome would be exactly as you suggest. If events prove otherwise, it will be because of the rapid and vigorous challenges raised the media's nemesis, the internet. This is why our leftist government and the MSM are so keen on shutting down the power of a free people with the means to fight these bastards on their own turf.

14 posted on 07/22/2012 12:53:24 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

Anymore you can’t get a gerbalist to mention a suspect’s race, or to even say that s/he’s a suspect: s/he’s a “person of interest.”

Here, however, the alphabet press not only names the suspect but provides his political persuasion. It’s just the usual spinach from ABC, but it could be CBS or NBC.


15 posted on 07/22/2012 12:56:58 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: tumblindice
He was the one that first showed Obamas soul mate Rev Wright...on MSM
16 posted on 07/22/2012 1:02:17 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Iron Munro

I would say a years worth of sponsorship fees should cover it, since ABC news betrayed not only the American people, but their sponsors.


17 posted on 07/22/2012 1:10:10 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Who believes half the crap these talking heads spout anymore?
Once the MSM sold out and went all in for Obama, their days were over with most folks except the Obama supporters.

Unfortunately, a lot of people still do (and not just Obama supporters). Far too many people are still using the mainstream media as their only source for news.

It always surprises them to see the blatant partisanship when it's pointed out by an alternative source. (Wall Street Journal and Investors Business Daily editorials are especially effective at doing this. I forward them to people regularly.)

18 posted on 07/22/2012 1:10:16 PM PDT by Bob
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To: centurion316

The only way this mistake could have been made is to have gone looking for it.

In other words, ALL they knew about the shooter’s background was his name.

So they must have said to themselves, “Look and see if there was anyone in the Tea Party with that name.”

Ignoring the fact that it’s a very common name, and finding a person with that name in the Tea Party and then concluding that it just HAD TO BE the same guy is the essence of an error based on bias.

It’s completely unforgivable.


19 posted on 07/22/2012 1:11:26 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: rurgan
"A newspaper (The news media) is a device for making the ignorant more
ignorant and the crazy crazier
".

~ H. L. Mencken (1880 – 1956) Journalist – magazine editor

20 posted on 07/22/2012 1:14:53 PM PDT by QT3.14 (ZeroCare Death Panels = Shovel-ready projects)
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To: centurion316

BLUNDER: a serious mistake caused by ignorance or confusion--Brian Ross intended harm.

21 posted on 07/22/2012 1:15:49 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Hojczyk

Even a blind MSM hog finds a truffle every now & then.


22 posted on 07/22/2012 1:21:04 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: rurgan
The top culprit is the school system from grade school to graduate school

The brain washed graduates from these left wing institutions staff the MSM who are worse than PRAVDA ever was

PRAVDA was run by the government and had to disseminate what they were told to

The LEFT WING MSM does it voluntarily

Commies knew what they were doing when the got control of the schools

And parents and students go into debt for the privilege
of being brainwashed

23 posted on 07/22/2012 1:27:54 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: EQAndyBuzz
I would say a years worth of sponsorship fees should cover it [lawsuit], since ABC news betrayed not only the American people, but their sponsors.

I like it - sounds more than fair.

After all, unlike Brian Ross, the “Jim Holmes” they slandered still had a reputation worth someting.


24 posted on 07/22/2012 1:30:00 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

This will look good in a courtroom as "Exhibit-1"


25 posted on 07/22/2012 1:35:44 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: uncbob
You make some great insights in your post but I disagree with you in one case and that is that the media is the main threat to our freedom, country and prosperity. It is the media who have stolen our birthright, our freedom, our future. The first thing we have to do is identify the enemy , the threat.

The government schools are a threat to us but not as much as the media.
What you say is true about the government schools which should all be disbanded.

The media are more effective than Pravda because they are for the most part privately run. And they do it voluntarily. these media reporters are really marxist POLITICAL evangelists who pose as reporters in order to advance their socialism and liberal agenda.

26 posted on 07/22/2012 1:38:35 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: uncbob
You make some great insights in your post but I disagree with you in one case: And that is when you say that the government schools are a bigger threat than the media. No the media is the threat , the enemy.The mainstream media is the main threat to our freedom, country and prosperity. It is the media who have stolen our birthright, our freedom, our future. The first thing we have to do is identify the enemy , the threat.

The government schools are a threat to us but not as much as the media.
What you say is true about the government schools which should all be disbanded.

The media are more effective than Pravda because they are for the most part privately run. And they do it voluntarily. these media reporters are really marxist POLITICAL evangelists who pose as reporters in order to advance their socialism and liberal agenda.

27 posted on 07/22/2012 1:42:55 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: rurgan

I agree. 100%.

We need more balance in our media. It is a wide swath on the left, and only a couple on the right.

We need balance.


28 posted on 07/22/2012 1:46:11 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: centurion316

he’s taking heat? where?


29 posted on 07/22/2012 2:10:56 PM PDT by GotMojo
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To: QT3.14
Mencken was right. He's got a lot of great quotes.

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
H. L. Mencken

I would add:

The whole aim of the liberal mainstream media is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

I also like this one lol:

Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another.
H. L. Mencken

he's got a million of them:

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/h/h_l_mencken_5.html

30 posted on 07/22/2012 2:14:05 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: centurion316

Brian Ross is a white man practicing yellow journalism to pink readers for black purposes, making me green with illness. A true rainbow coalition.


31 posted on 07/22/2012 3:29:38 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: rurgan

No Rurgan, the schools are the real threat. “The theory taught in the classroom in one generation becomes the policy of the government in the next generation’’.— Abraham Lincoln.


32 posted on 07/22/2012 3:33:21 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: rurgan

“Too often the desire to save mankind is really the desire to rule it’’.


33 posted on 07/22/2012 3:35:11 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Lazamataz

Jarrett/Axelrod/0bama > Ross and Stephy “the Christmas condom-hanger” > ABC > John Q. Public.

Dam I’m glad I don’t go to or own Disney anymore.


34 posted on 07/22/2012 3:35:48 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: jmacusa
So you think the media is not a threat?

The media control what most people think.But even so the media completely controls policy and what people think is happening. the media create this reality.

Even if they change the opinion of only 20% then they the media completely control who gets elected. This is how the media chose McCain then Romney. The media took out Palin, Cain , Brahman and so on so that the most liberal Republican would triumph. did the schools do that?

Yes the government schools are a threat a huge threat as are 99% of government agencies. Well the Schools are more dangerous than even the EPA but that is because they are so pervasive. But even so the media completely controls policy and what people thin is happening. the media create this reality.As dangerous as the schoools are the media are more of a threat . the media create this universe.

35 posted on 07/22/2012 3:45:57 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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The media is like a high fever in a very ill person. The underlying cause of the fever is usually a viral or bacterial infection.

So?...I agree with you, that the media is an **immediate** threat that may, in the very near future, kill our freedom.

But...The underlying cause is schooling and the cure will take a generation or two. Nearly 85% of our nation's children attend socialist-entitlment schools that have **never** been more than generically and lukewarmly Protestant in their worldview. Since the sixties they have been utterly godless. What do children learn in these schools?

Answer:

1) They risk learning to be comfortable with socialism and government compulsion. Hey! Any voting mob that is powerful enough to give them tuition-free schooling is powerful enough to give them **lots** of “free” stuff and force them to use it and pay taxes for it. Franklin D. Roosevelt wasn't an accident. All it took was one to three generations of compulsory socialist-entitlement K-12 schooling.

2) They will learn to think and reason godlessly. They MUST just to cooperate in the godless classroom. How could it be otherwise?

3) Children who attend prison-like government schools risk learning to be compliant prisoners of the state!

Solutions:

Short term

Strive to build up an alternative conservative media. For example, why isn't there a free 24/7 “TV-like” news program on an Internet site? Surely, there must be conservatives with the talent to do this.

Long term

Conservative must work to shut down the socialist-entitlement K-12 schools and get children into private educational settings that will uphold traditional values. ( Personally, I believe that the prison-like, brick and mortar, and Prussian-model system should be completely scrapped. )

36 posted on 07/22/2012 4:01:07 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: jmacusa
You think any one of these media reporters was sad that this killer murdered all these people? Hell no, these reporters were overjoyed, ecstatic

A reporter sits there looking for any event that will advance their religion of socialism. When the reporters heard of this shooter they said “yes! now we can use this to take away their guns”!” and then they also tried to see if they can tie this to conservatives. These reporters are pure evil marxists/democrats. Their job is supposed to be to report what is happening out their. But instead they use their position to brainwash many and to shape public opinion into accepting and implementing socialism. Remember the media showed images of Palin when that liberal shot that congress woman? Global warming lie, bp oil disaster lie, trayvon, etc. shall I go on ? they create this reality. You don't know how many morons I talk to in real life that believe this global warming crap. The media is so powerful even the supreme Court declared that CO2 is a pollutant( amazing it's not).

There are trillions of events happening in this world every day . The media cherry picks which events to report to advance their agenda and they ignore such events like the Obama borrowing trillions , the debt crisis in Europe , murders in the cities, black on white crimes etc. but they will show any white on black crime to demonize whites( as in the trayvon case). this is just one example of cultural marxism

37 posted on 07/22/2012 4:06:32 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: citizencon; PGalt
“I would emphatically say its not a left-right thing. I’ve never discerned in his reporting any ideological movement,” one ABC News source told POLITICO. “It’s the big sensational story that he’s after, and he’ll do the same on either side.”
Spoken like a true liberal journalist
Words mean things, people! There are no liberal journalists. There are only journalists who, by claiming objectivity for themselves - or, as in this case, other journalists who would return the favor for themselves - betray extreme tendentiousness.

The only way to even try to be objective is to be open about any reasons you know of why you might not be objective. And since this Is impossible to do when you are claiming that you actually are objective, people who claim to be objective aren’t even trying to be objective. No matter how much they prattle of their own “fact checking and telling both sides of the story.” People who think they are objective actually can’t really see that there are any other sides to the story than their own.

People to whom journalists give positive labels - such as “progressive” or “moderate” or “liberal” - are simply people who help journalists criticize and second guess the people who work to a bottom line and are relied on to get things done.

38 posted on 07/22/2012 4:11:27 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: rurgan

Where and how did these media people learn their Marxism?


39 posted on 07/22/2012 4:12:36 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime
I predict to you right now that the media will elect Obama as they did last time by smearing Palin.

The media will elect Obama even with the terrible economy and the obvious decline of America.

The media gets what it wants. How many billions in negative attack ads did the media give for free to Obama when they smeared Palin 24/7 in a million media outlets every second? I'd say about 10 billion in free ads . That is the power of the media. even if we had private schools and no gov schools as is needed the media would still be driving the U.S. toward the left and the media would still be growing the government.

40 posted on 07/22/2012 4:12:56 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: rurgan

I agree that the media is an immediate threat.

Do you have a possible solution?


41 posted on 07/22/2012 4:17:31 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime
I know the gov schools are a threat. The media brainwashes people every second from million media outlets 24/7 though.the media is the bigger threat imo.the media are privately owned and so more effective that the incompetent socialists running the decaying government schools. Still they do brainwash kids in gov schools.

the government schools need to be abolished. 99% of what government does is evil and the schools are certainly a socialist evil.

Yet how many conservatives , including me survived the government schools (and college) to still believe like I do and many freepers do that we need to limit government and that government is not the solution to so many problems?

42 posted on 07/22/2012 4:18:21 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: rurgan

And where do you suppose most of them were educated and by whom, Jesuits?


43 posted on 07/22/2012 4:23:36 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: centurion316
good thing he didn't call the guy a slut

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44 posted on 07/22/2012 4:25:23 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: wintertime
Look I know the government schools have brainwashed many but the media is a much bigger threat. I talk to countless Americans in real life. and even many democrats believe as I do that most government and politicians are corrupt. And Republicans are even more pro America, and against government .I'm talking about average people. so the government schools didn't completely brainwash everyone. and they are government so their aim is to brainwash everyone but they as all government is inefficient. so they can't brainwash most of us. The media however still fool most Americans into watching them . I don't because I know they are lying. the media are privately owned so effective. yes the gov schools are a huge threat. I am for abolishing the government schools and letting people educate their children how they want to that is freedom. I am disgusted that so many trust the schools and that is because the media doesn't expose the failure of gov schools.It makes me sick to watch “news” reports too because I know it is lies and cherry picked crap to advance socialism. yet most people don't look at news like that but that as if it were really news .it's not it's marxist political evangelism .
45 posted on 07/22/2012 4:28:41 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: rurgan
You can turn off the tv or the computer or the radio. How do you turn off a school? “To educate the mind and not the morals is to educate a menace to society''--- Teddy Roosevelt.
46 posted on 07/22/2012 4:31:02 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa
12 years of government schools and 4 years of liberal proffersors in college didn't brainwash me. I still think that 99% of government needs to be abolished including the gov schools, EPA, IRS , HUD , HHS etc.

so you think you can change my mind if these liberals preaching to me for 16 years couldn't?

47 posted on 07/22/2012 4:32:38 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: wintertime

Re my quote from Lincoln and T. Roosevelt.


48 posted on 07/22/2012 4:33:00 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: rurgan

Another good Mencken quote which might be applicable here is, “Never argue with a man whose job depends on not being convinced.”

Some attribute it to Mencken, and some as a paraphrase of Upton Sinclair. Whomever... it’s good. As long as the MSM fools spin lib talking points and prop up Obama, their positions are pretty secure.


49 posted on 07/22/2012 4:33:33 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: rurgan

As for the media, can you suggest a lawful solution?

Personally, I would love to see a thoroughly conservative ( **not** fair and balanced) 24/7 Internet news site that had the program look of Fox News. I would definitely watch it.


50 posted on 07/22/2012 4:37:03 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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