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Kuhner: Arpaio Probe Could Dwarf Watergate
Washington Times 24/7 ^ | 19 July 2012 | Jeffrey T. Kuhner

Posted on 07/20/2012 12:11:33 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss

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To: tsowellfan
So, if Obama knew he was going to get caught he would be hoping that it happens during his Presidency and not afterwards?

In a perfect world it shouldn't matter - if the evidence came to light during his presidency, the House and Senate would impeach and remove him and then he would immediately be handed over to a US Attorney who would prosecute him before a jury and see to it that he is convicted and locked up.

And if it came to light after his presidency, then it would go straight to the US Attorney who would prosecute him.

As a practical matter whether he would be better off having it happen during or after his presidency depends on your take on the prevailing winds.

I could see it playing out that if during his presidency overwhelming, undeniable evidence forced the House and Senate to act, that the powers that be would conclude that the humiliation of being removed from office is punishment enough for Obama and he is not thereafter brought up for criminal charges in the courts.

And if it happened after his presidency, the "let's just move on" sentiment would likely be very strong and the outcome might well be just to let it go.

61 posted on 07/20/2012 2:15:00 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Meet the New Boss

And if the “let’s just move on” sentiment prevails in the House and Senate does that mean no state AG could prosecute him?


62 posted on 07/20/2012 2:20:07 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: tsowellfan
Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House Obama is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
63 posted on 07/20/2012 2:22:14 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: tsowellfan
And if the “let’s just move on” sentiment prevails in the House and Senate does that mean no state AG could prosecute him?

In that case Obama would be wise to avoid travel in the red states.

64 posted on 07/20/2012 2:25:36 AM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Meet the New Boss

Sounds to me like if the brither’s suspicions are correct and it does come out... Obama’s F’ed!

Let’s hope by November we turn a lot of states Red.


65 posted on 07/20/2012 2:29:14 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: dragonblustar
>"The GOP are a bunch of cowards."

They're not cowards. They are bought and paid for DNC operatives.

A lot of people still think it's a two party system. They are WRONG!

66 posted on 07/20/2012 2:33:11 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Audio Revealed: U.S. Congress Rep. Posey Spokesman: Media Ridicule Stopping Us From Addressing Obama’s Identity Fraud

CDR Kerchner: Listen to the audio recording at the link below revealing why … the entire U.S. Congress refuses to enforce the Rule of Law and the U.S. Constitution in regards to prosecuting Obama for his criminal fraud activities before and after he entered the White House. They are afraid to even call for an investigation because someone in the major media might ridicule them. The poor babies in the entire U.S. Congress are being hog tied by Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals rule #5, fear of ridicule. Can you believe that? Suspend the Rule of Law in our nation and the U.S. Constitution because you are afraid you might be criticized in the press for launching an investigation into the SSN fraud, real estate transaction and tax fraud, forging a birth certificate, and identity theft fraud by Obama before and during his entry into the Oval Office. What has our ‘nation of laws and not men’ turned into? We have vain cry babies for leaders in the Congress. Shame on them. What despicable examples of leaders they are! Listen for yourself and find out about the cowards and appeasers of criminals and bullies our elected officials have turned into. Does Obama have dirt on all of them? Is there not an honest and brave man or woman left in Congress? Listen for yourself here:

Part 1)

http://youtu.be/r0qtkDfXez8

Part 2)

http://youtu.be/SruDHBXQQuQ


67 posted on 07/20/2012 2:46:05 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: Meet the New Boss

Perhaps domestically laws signed by him wouldn’t be considered void. The problem will arise when other nations decide that agreements ,treaties and laws {such as laws governing over seas banking by expat Americans} affecting those nations will be considered null and void by them.


68 posted on 07/20/2012 3:01:14 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Not left wing! Not right wing! But....CHRIST WING!)
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To: Meet the New Boss

I am beginning to think the MSM is going to try and pull a JR “dream season” like from Dallas.

Any younger readers who are baffled by that comment I laugh at you, back a couple decades ago a TV series called “Dallas” was on, very very popular.

Well after a horrendous scandalous season the baddy JR (Larry Hagman) does a scene where the whole TV season was just a bad dream

This is how the MSM wants to play it, the Obama season was just a bad dream. Go back to sleep and forget about it.


69 posted on 07/20/2012 3:09:51 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Going mobile, posts will be brief. No spellcheck for the grammar nazis.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
That the posted BC is a fraud, and I for one consider that assertion as proven. But that contention, even if true and accepted as a true fact; that the BC is a fraud; doesn’t necessarily mean 0bama is not a natural born citizen in our overly parsed world.

But Forgery is a high crime, as in 'high crimes and misdemeanors. Regardless of qualifications, that is enough to impeach. Then the validity of his NBC status could be sorted out and the laws voided or repealed if he failed to meet the criteria.

70 posted on 07/20/2012 3:10:30 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Meet the New Boss
Sheriff Arpaio’s findings threaten to plunge America into an unprecedented crisis.

No question; bigger than Watergate - in truth - just not in political reality. The Leftist Media grew Watergate; and it served their agenda. The truth of Obama does not serve this Media's agenda.

The larger tragedy is not the Constitutional crisis brought on by the truth; but our Constitutional crisis that is happening right now; because of a lie - and the damage done to our nation; as we refuse to do anything about it.

An 'et tu, Brute'; to America, from it's own citizens. . .the most damning cut of all.

Better a fast poison; and we will probably get that. . .Nov. 2012

71 posted on 07/20/2012 3:19:03 AM PDT by cricket
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Bookmark.


72 posted on 07/20/2012 3:44:13 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If America were a car, the "Check President" light would be on.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

Does that mean we could recover all the taxpayer dollars Michelle spent on her vacations?


73 posted on 07/20/2012 3:50:40 AM PDT by monocle
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To: Meet the New Boss

and start the impeachment
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Only a valid president could be impeached.

If he is a usurper then he isn’t president. He would be merely a usurper dressed up as a president.


74 posted on 07/20/2012 4:09:40 AM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: Meet the New Boss; All

I took the time to watch the press conference, and the fact that Obama’s BC is possibly a fraud, in a very big way, was not the high point of what they discovered. At no time during the conference did they even get close to accusing Obama of altering, or knowingly, having altered the BC. Just that it is not credible for identification purposes. Let those chips fall where they may.

The huge issue was the discovery that Hawaii has been issuing these certificates to just about anyone, as a tax paying RESIDENT and not citizen, who presented one no matter where in the world the child was born. This is still going on today and has been since before Hawaii became a state. They even found a government letter acknowledging the fact while the focus of the letter was on a different topic.

So the big question should have not been directly focused on Obama’s BC but instead asking how many people were given citizenship to this country using the process they discovered. The alarming issue to me is how many Soviet, or other nefarious interests, plants are now citizens because of the back door missing in Hawaii?


75 posted on 07/20/2012 5:28:02 AM PDT by mazda77 ("Defeating the Totalitarian Lie" By: Hilmar von Campe. Everybody should read it.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

Well said. The BC issue is bigger that the Bain issue. Carney is the only one laughing when the questions come in. Sooner or later the transcipts will come out and this guy will fall like a house of cards.


76 posted on 07/20/2012 6:08:30 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: UCANSEE2

You had it right the first time. “If he were” is correct.


77 posted on 07/20/2012 6:16:27 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (If you believe what you're saying, quit making taxable income.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

In a different period in American history, I would have believed that something would come out of this. At the very least, it is breaking new ground.


78 posted on 07/20/2012 6:20:57 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Kevmo
"The probe could dwarf Watergate but it won’t, unfortunately. The media will just ignore it. This guy seems a bit late to the dance hall."

It is the REPUBLICAN PARTY that will ignore it. That won't stop most of you so-called conservatives from voting for these cowards.

79 posted on 07/20/2012 6:25:58 AM PDT by Godebert (NO PERSON EXCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Meet the New Boss

If the birth certificate is accepted widely as a forged, not real document, the democrats will solve the problem extra-constitutionally. A trial and impeachment proceedings would be a dirty mess and an instant, clean solution to the Obama problem will be utilized.


80 posted on 07/20/2012 6:28:39 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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