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Defense hawks take cautious approach with NRA, UN arms trade treaty (Senate may ratify treaty)
The Hill ^ | 7/13/12 | Herb

Posted on 07/13/2012 6:26:35 PM PDT by pabianice

Defense hawks in the Senate are in a holding pattern on a United Nations arms treaty that’s drawing strong opposition from the National Rifle Association over Second Amendment concerns.

Several influential Republican defense hawks said Thursday they have to study the issue further before signing on to oppose it, despite a loud pressure campaign from the NRA.

NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre on Wednesday told the U.N. conference negotiating the agreement that 58 senators have pledged to oppose the treaty if it covers civilian arms over fears that would infringe on the right to bear arms. LaPierre pointed to letters signed by the senators last year.

But the comments from senators on Thursday signal the fate of the treaty in the Senate might remain more up in the air.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; bho44; bhoun; hawks; stockpilesong; thestockpilesong; unarmstreaty; unweaponstreaty
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HTH is this possible? That the Senate may ratify this treaty and end gun ownership in the U.S.?
1 posted on 07/13/2012 6:26:42 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

let me guess, one of those defense hawks is Juan Mclame.


2 posted on 07/13/2012 6:28:56 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: pabianice

What a farce our government is.

What a bunch of cowards.


3 posted on 07/13/2012 6:28:56 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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One nugget in the treaty would make a list of all U.S. gun owners available to the UN and its member nations. Nice. In further news, an Obama spokesman said that “the 2nd Amendment is not an issue in opposing this treaty.”


4 posted on 07/13/2012 6:31:14 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: redgolum
"What a farce our government is.

What a bunch of cowards foreigners."

There ... fixed it.

5 posted on 07/13/2012 6:32:50 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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They better not!! That will end any chance of getting a Republican majority in the Senate. The NRA and other civil rights groups should spend their entire war chest to defeat anyone who votes to ratify this.


6 posted on 07/13/2012 6:33:35 PM PDT by SUSSA
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7 posted on 07/13/2012 6:36:22 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: pabianice

I guess ratifying a treaty with a foreign entity doesn’t include “we the people”. Glade I accidentally dropped all my guns in a lake several years ago.


8 posted on 07/13/2012 6:37:25 PM PDT by doc1019 (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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Every Repub should vote against this but 34 of them will be enough defeat it, hopefully we’ll have that many.


9 posted on 07/13/2012 6:40:30 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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If this isn’t a ‘litmus test’, I don’t know what is. This goes FAR beyond firearms ownership and the Constitution. This is all about our sovereignty. If the Senate ratifies this, we might as well not have a Union.

Each and every US Senator that supports this should be made to decorate lamp posts along Pennsylvania Avenue!


10 posted on 07/13/2012 6:46:43 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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11 posted on 07/13/2012 6:49:32 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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In a better world, it would take no thought whatsoever before repudiating an effort by One World Fantasists to persuade America to cede American self-determination to a gaggle of political hacks, fast talking con artists, deluded Utopianists, and internationalist hangers on.

But our demented Washington politicans have to check carefully into the feelings and wishes of their equally demented constituents before casting their votes once again to shred the constitution and further hobble the nation; a nation which, however laughable the proposition may now sound, was once the land of the free and the home of the brave.


12 posted on 07/13/2012 6:49:47 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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In every war, there has to be a first victim.

Apparently, there is no shortage of volunteers.

13 posted on 07/13/2012 6:51:13 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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Are these the ones?

Enzi, McConnell, Ayotte, Mike Johanns (R. Neb) Kay Bailey Hutchinson

Do we add Murkowski, Portman, Graham, McCain, Snowe, Collins, Lugar and Graham?


14 posted on 07/13/2012 6:51:47 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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Looks like we're surrendering to the UN.

So much for the oath they all took. obama, Hillary and ??? are doing it to us with an end run around the Constitution.

They have made an error in judgment.

This will be taken as a declaration of war by the many millions of gun owners.

Impeach them before they start Civil War II!

15 posted on 07/13/2012 6:57:05 PM PDT by GBA (To understand what is happening to America and why, read The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn)
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It appears that American people may have to take on the baby raping, UN blue helmets to defend our Bill or Rights. I never dreamed that I’d live long enough to see this day. Gee! Thanks Barry!!!


16 posted on 07/13/2012 6:58:54 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Help reduce voter fraud in America! If you see something, say something!)
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The President and Senate cannot sign a treaty that violates the Constitution and override the 2nd Ammendment.

Just look up: Reid v. Covert

Yes, the court can try do something stupid (Roberts) but that arguement could be made at any time. All Americans should be opposed to any treaties from the U.N. but the NRA is using this as a fundraiser.

17 posted on 07/13/2012 7:11:01 PM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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A treat can and will trump US law. Ask anyone who deals with shipping.


18 posted on 07/13/2012 7:17:54 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Also, well within our lifetimes we’ll find out why 0bama’s been using armed drones so extensively in Pakistan; PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT!


19 posted on 07/13/2012 7:22:16 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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58 Senators have pledged to oppose this. How is it going to pass?


20 posted on 07/13/2012 7:22:16 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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