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Team Obama: No, We Won't Apologize for Falsely Suggesting Romney's a Felon
Townhall.com ^ | July 13, 2012 | Guy Benson

Posted on 07/13/2012 6:01:38 PM PDT by Kaslin

Raise your hand if you're surprised by this.  Dishonorable people behave dishonorably (click through for video):
 

Ed Schultz, MSNBC: "Now the Romney campaign wants President Obama to apologize for Stephanie Cutter's remarks, you heard earlier, we played on that conference call about Mitt Romney either being a liar or a potential felon. Will there be an apology?"

Ben LaBolt, Obama campaign press secretary: "There won't be. You know, Mitt Romney has been telling voters, since he ran for office in Massachusetts, that he left Bain in 1999. And the Boston Globe reported today that that wasn't true.


Actually, that's not what the Boston Globe reported, and Romney's long-standing explanation for these events has been confirmed by multiple fact-checkers, as well as contemporaneous reporting -- including stories from the Boston Globe.  As we've established, the Obama campaign certainly understands the difference between titular ownership and participation in the managerial process.  They haven't even attempted to offer any evidence that Romney was running Bain after 1999, because no such evidence exists.  The Republican was off in Utah working 80-to-100-hour weeks to (successfully) save the Winter Olympics.  What Team O is doing here is glorying in their own lies, even (especially?) after they've been widely and scrupulously debunked.  The message is simple: "We are going to do and say whatever the hell we want to damage our opponent, and we think we're going to get away with it."  To make this point crystal clear, they've rolled out a new ad repeating the lie that independent analysts have just spent the last 30 hours picking apart.  This is what we call tripling down:
 

Your Turn

very last element of this ad is untrue.  First, Mitt Romney does deny that he shipped jobs overseas.  That's the whole point of this multi-week spat.  The Obama campaign has surely been making the claim over and over and over again, but Romney has denied it at every turn.  And guess what?  Mitt Romney is right.  The Washington Post gave Obama 'Four Pinocchios' for his team's original claims, and FactCheck.org affirmed that there is "no evidence" to support the accusations.  Second, there are no "newly disclosed" documents that disprove, or even disrupt, Romney's assertions on his Bain timeline.  The very newspaper that ran the story cited in the new spot addressed this exact controversy ten years ago when Massachusetts Democrats were launching similar attacks (more on this later):
 

BOSTON GLOBE IN 2002: “Is it accurate? Romney's investment firm, Bain Capital, bought a majority stake in GS Technologies in 1993. Last year, with Bain still in control, the company filed for bankruptcy and Bain announced it would close the company's Kansas City steel rod plant, which employed 750 people. But Romney was not at Bain when the decision to close the plant was made: He left in 1999 to help organize the Olympics, though he was still signing official SEC documents as the company's president and CEO.


So the Globe story was not "new" or "evidence."  Yesterday was Romney's "turn" to explain, and he did.  The fact-checkers agreed with him.  But Chicago pumped out a new attack ad anyway.  For what it's worth (precious little to Captain HopenChange and his minions, evidently), there are additional facts on this front.  The Washington Post's fact-checker awarded Obama 'Three Pinocchios' for the "felony" allegation today, reasserting its previous rulings on this Groundhog Day controversy:
 

As we wrote yesterday, we are standing with our assessment that Mitt Romney left the helm of Bain Capital in 1999, when he departed to run the Salt Lake City Olympics. The date is important because some questionable investments by Bain took place between 1999 and 2002, when he ran for governor. But a Boston Globe article on Thursday raised new questions about that timeline, citing SEC filings, and the Obama campaign jumped to take advantage of it. Despite the furor, we did not see much new in the Globe article. We had examined many SEC documents related to Romney and Bain in January, and concluded that much of the language saying Romney was “sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president” was boilerplate that did not reveal whether he was actually managing Bain at the time. (For instance, there is no standard definition of a “chief executive,” securities law experts say, and there is no requirement for anyone to have any responsibilities even if they have that title.)

The Obama campaign is blowing smoke here.We realize that Bauer gets to the word “criminal” by mentioning “investigation,” but that distinction might be lost on most listeners.  Meanwhile, the weight of evidence suggests that Romney did in fact end active management of Bain in 1999. He stated that in a federal disclosure form he signed, under threat of criminal penalties. He said he was a “former employee” in a state disclosure form. A state commission concluded 10 years ago that he did, indeed, leave Bain in 1999.  Investors in Bain funds were told he was not part of the management team. We were tempted to award this claim Four Pinocchios, but the documents with his signature leave some room for inquiry. But, overall, they shrink in importance to the other evidence cited above. (Our colleagues at FactCheck.Org also reaffirmed their similar conclusion.) Still, if the Obama campaign wants to put its money where its mouth is, it should immediately lodge a complaint about Romney’s financial disclosure form, filed just last year, rather than try to mislead people about potential violations in relatively unimportant SEC documentsThree Pinocchios.


Here's one more interesting and telling nugget WaPo raised:
 

Let’s also not forget that Massachusetts Democrats tried to keep Romney off the ballot in the 2002 governor’s race on the grounds that he had been living and working in Utah, even paying taxes there, and thus had failed to meet the requirement to have lived seven consecutive years in Massachusetts. The effort failed, but not after Democrats waged an expensive, months’ long battle to prove he worked so much on the Olympics that he was in effect a citizen of Utah.


Democrats in 2002: Romney was so involved with the Salt Lake City Olympics that he should be considered a resident of Utah, and therefore ineligble to run for governor!  Democrats in 2012: Romney was actually running his business is Massachusetts the whole time, and his "outsourcing" after 1999 should prevent him from becoming president!  It's impressive how the same political party can seize upon the same time period in Mitt Romney's life to bludgeon him for two explicitly contradictory reasons without any sense of shame.  Finally, here's CNN reporting that Romney is telling the truth about his Bain departure, effectively invalidating three full rounds of Obama's negative ads, including the one embedded above:
 

CNN Report Debunks Latest False Attack From Obama Campaign

Note well that two overt, "active" Obama supporters at Bain have independently confirmed Mitt Romney's veracity in all of this, even though they want him to lose the election.  Which reminds me: Hasn't a certain sitting president raked in major donations from Bain employees?  Maybe Obama would have preferred in-kind donations instead, in the form of lying on his behalf about Mitt Romney's hasty exit in 1999, to provide some cover for his discredited attacks.  Oh well -- the cash will have to suffice.


UPDATE - Some prominent Democrats are starting to feel queasy over the Obama campaign's unhinged, unsubstantiated "felony" language:
 


One wonders what "a lot too far" might look like.  Meanwhile, the Romney campaign passes along this montage of Obama campaign officials getting raked over the coals for peddling untrue attacks; bear in mind that these confrontations all occurred before Team O released their latest "triple down" ad.  Shamelessness on parade:
 

Ed Rendell: Obama Campaign Went "Too Far"

One wonders what "a lot too far" might look like. Meanwhile, the Romney campaign passes along this montage of Obama campaign officials getting raked over the coals for peddling untrue attacks; bear in mind that these confrontations all occurred before Team O released their latest "triple down" ad. Shamelessness on parade:

False Obama Attacks Collide With The Truth

Kudos to CNN, Fox News, MSNBC (!), ABC News, and CBS News for shooting straight on this so far. The unanimity of calumny demonstrates how incontrovertible the evidence against Obama really is.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: appallingdems; backstabberromney; bain; bho2012; iwontvoteforromney; romneyantiteaparty; romneyrecord; stenchofromney

1 posted on 07/13/2012 6:01:45 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Evil never apologizes except to the wrong people for the wrong reasons.


2 posted on 07/13/2012 6:04:54 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Kaslin

Sounds like Romney has been given the green light to go after Obama’s personal narrative—something McCain refused to do. Sheriff Joe will provide the opening salvo next Tuesday. Bring it!!


3 posted on 07/13/2012 6:08:46 PM PDT by kabar
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To: OrangeHoof

They are trying to pull Romney down to Obama’s level. Obama is a criminal with the mindset of a thug. Romney is just a RINO. They need to level the playing field and it’s backfiring like Fast and Furious.


4 posted on 07/13/2012 6:09:01 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Kaslin

Romney should have been on the offensive months ago. Instead he’s doing defense. The obama campaign apparently sets the narrative.


5 posted on 07/13/2012 6:13:51 PM PDT by bergmeid (Leftism kills babies and economies. Leftism is truly a DEAD END.)
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To: Kaslin

So it would be okay if Team Romney accuses Barry of being a child molesting, drug addict? This world is getting stranger and stranger.


6 posted on 07/13/2012 6:14:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Help reduce voter fraud in America! If you see something, say something!)
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To: Kaslin

The “YouLie” meme needs to be resurrected.

Obama YouLie!

Got Photoshop?


7 posted on 07/13/2012 6:18:41 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Kaslin

“What Team O is doing here is glorying in their own lies, even (especially?) after they’ve been widely and scrupulously debunked.”

That’s what liberals and Obama enablers do. They lie, that’s all they know.


8 posted on 07/13/2012 6:20:34 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Kaslin
that's fine because we won't apologize for calling Obama a

Kenyan

homosexual/bisexual

fake constitutional professor that was only a “lecturer”

muslim

communist/socialist

social security identity thief with fake card

affirmative action Harvard Review editor that never wrote an article

fake Columbia University-actually Columbia college attendee

application fraud for using fake Kenyan ancestry (either he's foreign or his college applications were a lie....so either way he'll never reveal his applications or transcripts)

and most importantly we won't apologize for the FACT that Sarah Palin's basketball team was better that Obama's and she was probably a better player.

9 posted on 07/13/2012 6:21:26 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: BCR #226

Projection, thy name is liberal democrat. This is bait and nothing more. Obama can’t run on his record because he is a loser marxist in a free market society.


10 posted on 07/13/2012 6:24:29 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Kaslin

If Romney is such a bad guy for shipping jobs overseas, what does that make 0bama for dismantling NASA? Are we or are we not now dependent upon Russia for space launches?

I wonder if Dem neurons could put that one together.


11 posted on 07/13/2012 6:30:50 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Instead of running for another term, 0bama should be begging for forgiveness.)
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To: Kaslin
If Obama knows of crimes that Mitt has committed, isn't he committing a crime by not having Eric Holder prosecute?
12 posted on 07/13/2012 6:31:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: kabar
Sounds like Romney has been given the green light to go after Obama’s personal narrative—something McCain refused to do. Sheriff Joe will provide the opening salvo next Tuesday. Bring it!!

A few phrases you will never hear uttered by either Romney nor his PACs:
Murdered Choir Director Donald Young
Larry Sinclair
False selective service records
Questionable Social Security card
College transcripts
Foreign student application to a US college
Gurnee
Limo
Man's Country Bath House
Life on the down-low

13 posted on 07/13/2012 6:37:50 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: kabar

And these “felon-ers” say that “birthers” are crazy!

I’m waiting for obama to say the Holocaust didn’t really happen.


14 posted on 07/13/2012 6:44:02 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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15 posted on 07/13/2012 6:47:13 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Kaslin
Confidential to Mitt:

Dude, go on the offense!

Can you guess the topic from which Mister Obama (and his minders) are most desperately trying to steer you away from?

No, the economy is only #2.

Mister Obama's most defenseless vulnerability is his refusal to release his full, complete, and unexpurgated, and unedited collegiate transcripts (including the full name he used as a matriculated student!

Where are Mister Obama's classmates?

Where are his professors?

What classes did he take, and what did he NOT take (econ 101 a and b, one suspects)

What were his grades?

Where did he live, how did he support himself, who were his room mates, and who were his comrades?

Under what name did he receive his degrees, and what degrees were conferred?

Where is the senior thesis ?(nobody ever loses them, it just does not happen.)

Would Mister Obama hire someone for a WH job who declined to be forthcoming about education records?

The records must not be a condensation or summary, they need to be official documents, with valid signatures.

Mitt, my friend, this is an issue that you need to address with passion daily, hourly, and without relent.

Voters don't know a trillion from a billion. But they do know fraud and deceit.

Again, ask the American People at every visit if they are not curious about Mister Obama's full, complete, and unexpurgated, and unedited collegiate transcripts (including the full name he used as a matriculated student! .

.

Ask this of every "news" interviewer.

Ask this of the crowd at every gathering.

Oh, and consider releasing your collegiate records immediately, and make it a big press deal.

.

16 posted on 07/13/2012 6:48:16 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Kaslin

They will move to arrest Romney soon.


17 posted on 07/13/2012 7:18:26 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

BO’s tactic in past campaigns was to disqualify opponents so he could run unopposed, right?


18 posted on 07/13/2012 7:20:54 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Kaslin

Never let it be said that gay people aren’t lying, mean people. Faggots can be vicious people, as Obama is demonstrating.


19 posted on 07/13/2012 7:29:08 PM PDT by pallis
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To: BCR #226

**Obama is a criminal with the mindset of a thug. **

And Obama needs to be impeached.


20 posted on 07/13/2012 7:33:52 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: thecodont
Right. Maybe Holder will announce a special prosecutor to investigate whether Romney committed a felony.

The mainstream media would see nothing wrong with that--they would start asking "when is Romney going to drop out?"

21 posted on 07/13/2012 7:51:39 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Kaslin

Isnt Obama a Felon for stealing 6 trillion dollars from our children?


22 posted on 07/13/2012 8:30:08 PM PDT by Reality_News
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To: Kaslin

the left always attacks

the right just grabs the table and asks for them to be gentle while apologizing for daring to attempt to follow the law

which is why they aren’t in charge... they aren’t leading, just whimpering and rolling over

we need someone with more bawls

I hear Sarah is in town...


23 posted on 07/13/2012 8:54:30 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: musicman

Now THIS is excellent. I just had to say so.


24 posted on 07/13/2012 9:00:10 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: Kaslin

I would take a run of the mill felon over an evil foreign-born radical communist Muslim narcissist any day.


25 posted on 07/13/2012 10:18:51 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Kaslin

DNC = Party of Garbage.


26 posted on 07/13/2012 10:20:37 PM PDT by oyez ( .Apparently The U.S. CONSTITUTION has been reduced to the consistency of quicksand.)
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To: Dick Vomer

Mind if I add Obama the drug pusher/addict?


27 posted on 07/13/2012 10:24:25 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: MrChips

Thanks!


28 posted on 07/13/2012 11:10:59 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Kaslin
That's OK - the Romney Campaign won't apologize to Obama either - for truthfully calling him a serial liar...
29 posted on 07/14/2012 3:30:32 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Kaslin

Felons! criminals! funny! Look who’s calling the kettle black. There I go making a racist remark. There are so many we may have to bring the prison to them rather than bringing them to prison.


30 posted on 07/14/2012 3:47:47 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (B B)
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To: Kaslin
The REAL Felon is ZERO.
He is using a phony Social Security Number! ! ! ! ! ! !
31 posted on 07/14/2012 3:49:02 AM PDT by DeaconRed (My vote in Nov will be dictated by my extreme hatred for ZERO and what he is doing to our country.)
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To: Kaslin
Alan Keys:
Alan if you read this please let people know what happened to you and the other candidates running against ZERO for the IL Senate seat.
32 posted on 07/14/2012 3:53:41 AM PDT by DeaconRed (My vote in Nov will be dictated by my extreme hatred for ZERO and what he is doing to our country.)
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To: kabar
Sounds like Romney has been given the green light to go after Obama’s personal narrative

Oh Yeah! He can say what he wants and not have to issue an apology. obama wants to play dirty -- let the games begin. There are many unanswered questions about obama's past and lies in his own books Romney could bring up. Romney could say -- just askin'......

33 posted on 07/14/2012 3:59:50 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: kabar
Sounds like Romney has been given the green light to go after Obama’s personal narrative

Oh Yeah! He can say what he wants and not have to issue an apology. obama wants to play dirty -- let the games begin. There are many unanswered questions about obama's past and lies in his own books Romney could bring up. Romney could say -- just askin'......

34 posted on 07/14/2012 3:59:52 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Kaslin
Smacks of desperation to me.

Polling must be horrid in the White House.

35 posted on 07/14/2012 4:00:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Borg Zombies walk around groaning "Commmppuutteerrrrssss......Commmppuutteerrrrssss......")
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

“I wonder if Dem neurons could put that one together.”

Psychotics don’t have that ability.

IMHO


36 posted on 07/14/2012 4:29:14 AM PDT by ripley
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To: redgolum

“They will move to arrest Romney soon.”

Maybe Mr. Holder can brilliantly “pivot” and concentrate his tremendous intellectual ability on getting a case together against Mr. Romney.

/S/


37 posted on 07/14/2012 4:51:26 AM PDT by ripley
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To: 1035rep; Kaslin
“What Team O is doing here is glorying in their own lies, even (especially?) after they’ve been widely and scrupulously debunked.” That’s what liberals and Obama enablers do. They lie, that’s all they know.

You're missing the point. They are talking to their audience. Their audience hears the lies, and never hears the corrections (because they don't watch THAT news channel) or doesn't believe the corrections.

38 posted on 07/14/2012 6:42:36 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: SERKIT
A few phrases you will never hear uttered by either Romney nor his PACs:

Exactly.

The degenerate coward and con man Willard and his blue blood country clubber Washingtonians think they will win this thing without bringing any of this up.

Just the SS card issue alone is a felony, but Team Kolob doesn't want to rock the boat and piss off all of the DC crowd they will have to do backroom deals with to screw over us tax paying suckers outside the beltway.

39 posted on 07/14/2012 6:53:21 AM PDT by Rome2000 (WILLARD ROMNEY -- MORMON MELCHIDEZEK BISHOP -HIS FAMILY HAS AVOIDED MILITARY SERVICE FOR GENERATIONS)
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