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U.N. Agreement Should Have All Gun Owners Up In Arms
Forbes ^ | 6/07/2011

Posted on 07/09/2012 3:25:03 PM PDT by South40

It may not come as surprising news to many of you that the United Nations doesn’t approve of our Second Amendment. Not one bit. And they very much hope to do something about it with help from some powerful American friends. Under the guise of a proposed global “Small Arms Treaty” premised to fight “terrorism”, “insurgency” and “international crime syndicates” you can be quite certain that an even more insidious threat is being targeted – our Constitutional right for law-abiding citizens to own and bear arms.

What, exactly, does the intended agreement entail?

See here

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1 posted on 07/09/2012 3:25:05 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40
"with help from some powerful anti-American friends."

fixed it

2 posted on 07/09/2012 3:32:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: South40

If they want them, they’ll get the ammunition first. No law or treaty surpasses the Bill of Rights. I don’t need the SCOTUS to rule on that; I just need accurate windage. I’m old enough so dying fighting wouldn’t have that much of a negative impact on me.


3 posted on 07/09/2012 3:33:22 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: muir_redwoods

“Come and get me, Copper!”


4 posted on 07/09/2012 3:36:19 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: muir_redwoods

Obama and Hillary are just about orgasmic over this.

Theyare too stupid to real;ize that Americans are not going to give up their guns for the UN.

First the Senate has to approve it.
I don’t see that happening , and if it does I see the SHTF.


5 posted on 07/09/2012 3:36:36 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: muir_redwoods

Ditto. I will not surrender my firearms without a fight.


6 posted on 07/09/2012 3:38:00 PM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: South40
Under the guise of a proposed global “Small Arms Treaty” premised to fight “terrorism”, “insurgency” and “international crime syndicates”...

Insurgency is the big one here. The goal is to thwart the resistance to oppressive governments, and those which intend to become such. Clearing the way for progressivism to make drones of most, for the benefit of a few.

Should things go in an ugly direction, most of us will be the insurgents, the resistance; some with weapons and others by means of sabotage and disinformation.

7 posted on 07/09/2012 3:38:57 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: South40

Treason in this country is quickly reaching critical mass.


8 posted on 07/09/2012 3:39:28 PM PDT by samtheman (The Trillion Dollar ObamaCareTax definitely is a tax; just ask the US Supreme Court.)
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To: South40

If one of those blue helmet shows at my door, make sure a body bag comes with him.


9 posted on 07/09/2012 3:40:33 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Venturer
First the Senate has to approve it.

The senate is loaded with RATs and RINOs...

10 posted on 07/09/2012 3:40:49 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: South40

Everyone who thinks nobama and the Hildabeaste can get 67 Senators to vote for this, raise your hand. Uh-huh.


11 posted on 07/09/2012 3:45:27 PM PDT by upchuck (FACEBOOK... Share pointless stuff with friends you don't know. Beg for intrusion into your life.)
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To: South40

12 posted on 07/09/2012 3:45:27 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: muir_redwoods

Can you still see the front sight friend?


13 posted on 07/09/2012 3:45:55 PM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: South40
MOLON LAVE
14 posted on 07/09/2012 3:47:54 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: South40

15 posted on 07/09/2012 3:47:54 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: South40

“....the United Nations doesn’t approve of our Second Amendment.”

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It only shows how LOW we have sunk as a nation, that we let a beggar organization like the UN tell us what to do in our own home.

Without our tax dollars, the UN would not exist.


16 posted on 07/09/2012 3:49:14 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Venturer; South40; All
First the Senate has to approve it.
You might want to read @ this...rant...of mine, for lack of a better term, from 2010 and hope history doesn't repeat.

@ 34 treaties voice vote dead of night

17 posted on 07/09/2012 3:49:56 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

There are a number of FReepers that mistakenly believe treaties are handled with care and all Senators know to vote on them. The Constitution requires only a majority of “those present” to ratify a treaty, and as you point out, many treaties are ratified underhandedly.


18 posted on 07/09/2012 3:53:00 PM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: upchuck

“can get 67 Senators to vote for this”

Where do you get that 67 Senators must vote to ratify a treaty?


19 posted on 07/09/2012 3:54:25 PM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: Venturer

>Theyare too stupid to real;ize that Americans are not going to give up their guns for the UN.<

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You have it all wrong — they WANT you to rise in rebellion and so start a civil war so that they can invite blue-helmeted troops in.


20 posted on 07/09/2012 3:54:25 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Venturer

When the SHTF I would think being a democRAT legislator or pResident is not going to be a safe place.


21 posted on 07/09/2012 3:55:53 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: Logical me
If one of those blue helmet shows at my door...

Helpful hint: don't wait for them to show up at your front door. Just sayin'...

22 posted on 07/09/2012 3:57:04 PM PDT by Noumenon (I will not pay the Obama jizya.)
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To: All
@ 34 treaties voice vote Oct. 18, 2000
23 posted on 07/09/2012 3:57:20 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: South40
You can't lose a God given right. It is eternal and irrevocable. Most LEO or military would reject such an illegal law or order because the only way to take guns away is by amending or abolishing the Constitution. Those that choose to try an enforce an illegal order will die quickly and stupidly.
24 posted on 07/09/2012 3:58:35 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: South40
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25 posted on 07/09/2012 3:59:32 PM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: CodeToad

Article II Section 2.


26 posted on 07/09/2012 4:00:56 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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27 posted on 07/09/2012 4:02:00 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Obama hates Mexicans (Fast and Furious))
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To: Venturer
Does anyone remember the Kyoto Protocol? Sign it with one hand and try to get is passed in the Senate and poop in the other obama... let us see which fills up first! The left are rabid barking moon bats. If someone hadn't posted a picture of CZJ to me on another thread... this crap would drive me postal!

LLS

28 posted on 07/09/2012 4:03:04 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: savedbygrace

“He shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur”

Present, not all members. That’s it. Present. That could be 2 of 3 present.


29 posted on 07/09/2012 4:09:27 PM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: CodeToad

2/3rds of the members present


30 posted on 07/09/2012 4:18:15 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: 353FMG

“..they WANT you to rise in rebellion and so start a civil war so that they can invite blue-helmeted troops in.”

Otherwise known as a target rich environment.


31 posted on 07/09/2012 4:21:28 PM PDT by Donkey Odious (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: CodeToad
Check this out...@ PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE 106th CONGRESS, SECOND SESSION
Page S10658 RECESS
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Under the previous order, the Senate stands in recess until the hour of 2:15 p.m.
Thereupon, the Senate, at 12:29 p.m., recessed until 2:17 p.m., whereupon, the Senate reassembled when called to order by the Presiding Officer (Mr. GREGG).
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from Wyoming is recognized.
Mr. THOMAS. I suggest the absence of a quorum.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will call the roll.
The assistant legislative clerk proceeded to call the roll.
Mr. THOMAS. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
As The Congressional Record shows this happened repeatedly throughout the day. EXECUTIVE SESSION
EXECUTIVE CALENDAR—UNANIMOUS CONSENT AGREEMENT
Mr. THOMAS. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Senate proceed to executive session to consider the following treaties on today’s Executive Calendar. They will consist of Nos. 20 through 53.
I further ask unanimous consent that the treaties be considered as having passed through their various parliamentary stages up to and including the presentation of the resolutions of ratification; all committee provisos, reservations, understandings, declarations be considered and agreed to; that any statements be printed in the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD as if read; further, that when the resolutions of ratification are voted upon, the motion to reconsider be laid upon the table, the President be notified of the Senate’s action, and that following the disposition of the treaties, the Senate return to legislative session.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without objection, it is so ordered.
Mr. THOMAS. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the clerk report each treaty by title prior to the vote on each treaty, and further I ask for a division vote on each resolution of ratification.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. Is there objection? Without objection, it is so ordered. The treaties will be considered to have passed through their various parliamentary stages up to and including the presentation of the resolutions of ratification, which the clerk will report.

The "dead of night" quip of mine was a euphemism.
As all can see it happened in broad daylight.

S10667

The PRESIDING OFFICER. A division has been requested.
Senators in favor of the ratification of this treaty, please raise their hand. (After a pause.) Those opposed will raise their hands.
With two-thirds of the Senators present having voted in the affirmative, the resolution of ratification is agreed to.
Mr. THOMAS. I thank the Presiding Officer, the Senator from West Virginia, and the clerk.
By the way, just for information, these treaties were all approved by the Foreign Relations Committee on October 4 and 5.

2/3 of Congress wasn't there. The quorum call was rescinded with no objection.

32 posted on 07/09/2012 4:22:17 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
Can you still see the front sight friend?

It's the rear site that is the problem.

33 posted on 07/09/2012 4:40:12 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: muir_redwoods
If they want them, they’ll get the ammunition first. No law or treaty surpasses the Bill of Rights. I don’t need the SCOTUS to rule on that; I just need accurate windage. I’m old enough so dying fighting wouldn’t have that much of a negative impact on me.

Right on bros!

As an ol' Nam Vet pushing 70 (who after having spent 18 months in country without so much as a scratch) I consider every day God gives me as a "bonus," thus if push comes to shove and my good eyesight and somewhat steady hand holds up, whoever wants my weapons had better catch me unaware and from behind, cuz I ain't gonna give up nice a peaceful like.

If I knew who you were and lived close by, I'd volunteer to watch your 6.

Stay well!

34 posted on 07/09/2012 4:57:45 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: All
Here is tomorrow's Executive Calendar...

@EXECUTIVE CALENDAR Tuesday, July 10, 2012

John Thomas Fowlkes, Jr., of Tennessee, looks to be a "shoe-in" for United States District Judge for the Western District of Tennessee.

35 posted on 07/09/2012 4:58:25 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: South40

Only politicians care what the UN thinks. American citizens don’t care what the UN thinks about the US or what any other country thinks about us. I personally could care less.

The UN is totally anti-American. We need to get out of the UN and then kick the UN out of New York and put them over in the Hague where they belong.


36 posted on 07/09/2012 5:02:55 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: South40

These people need to be shot. Especially, if they attempt to take our guns.
OK Corral at high noon. Bring your agreement.


37 posted on 07/09/2012 5:12:03 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the StatistI)
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To: muir_redwoods

“I’m old enough so dying fighting wouldn’t have that much of a negative impact on me.”

I hear you.


38 posted on 07/09/2012 5:16:43 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: South40

If we didn’t contribute to the UN it would go under - as it should. It’s a ‘dictator protection agency’...


39 posted on 07/09/2012 5:17:59 PM PDT by GOPJ (Speak truth to lies - to ignorance. Speak honesty to the corrupt . Stand-up to liberal elite liars..)
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To: upchuck
Everyone who thinks nobama and the Hildabeaste can get 67 Senators to vote for this, raise your hand. Uh-huh.

Please R-E-A-D Article ii, Section 2, Clause 2 of the Constitution. It say a treaty is ratified "provided two thirds of the Senators PRESENT concur" (emphasis added).

It can be done in the dark of night with 34 Senators. Please don't think that beyond Dirty Harry Reid's usual degree of connivance.

40 posted on 07/09/2012 5:22:37 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The Slave Party Switcheroo: Economic crisis! Zero's eligibility Trumped!! Hillary 2012!!!)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

Yes I can and what’s in front of it too.


41 posted on 07/09/2012 5:38:51 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: CodeToad

2 of 3? Not for this one. There will be high and visible attendance for this vote.


42 posted on 07/09/2012 5:47:54 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I would hope the pubbies are smart enough to not let that happen.

Maybe I give them too much credit? :)


43 posted on 07/09/2012 5:54:59 PM PDT by upchuck (FACEBOOK... Share pointless stuff with friends you don't know. Beg for intrusion into your life.)
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To: CodeToad
The Constitution requires only a majority of “those present” to ratify a treaty

Really? Where does it say that?

44 posted on 07/09/2012 5:55:49 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: CodeToad
Sorry, as pointed out by Carry_Okie in #40 above, it's 2/3 of Senators present. My apologies.
45 posted on 07/09/2012 5:56:35 PM PDT by upchuck (FACEBOOK... Share pointless stuff with friends you don't know. Beg for intrusion into your life.)
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To: South40

1,000 more rounds coming in this week.

“Let’s get it started.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKqV7DB8Iwg


46 posted on 07/09/2012 6:01:46 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: 353FMG

They better be careful what they wish for.

I would have qualms about shooting an American Policeman or Soldier, but a Blue helmet who has no business being here anyway? Of course they would probably have Americans wearing the blue helmets. We have carried the fighting load for the UN since it’s inception.


47 posted on 07/09/2012 6:06:30 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: upchuck

This commie crap isn’t going anywhere. The Marxist jackwagons are using the opportunity to mock the Constitution and taunt its Citizens.

Put it to a vote and let the scum expose themselves.


48 posted on 07/09/2012 6:27:39 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: South40
Contacted my 2 senators to vote against this treaty. Both are gun control freak Dem's.

The following is the comment I got back from one senator..(an really bullshit response designed to say she is voting for it, but for good reasons (that are not well thought out)..

“Thank you for contacting me regarding the UN Arms Trade Treaty. I appreciate hearing from you on this matter.

In 2006 the United Nations General Assembly requested that the Secretary-General of the UN establish a group of governmental experts to draft parameters binding nations to common international standards with respect to import, export, and transfer of conventional arms. Between 2009 and 2012, the UN will hold Open Ended Work Group Meetings and Preparatory Committee Meetings in order to draft a treaty to be voted on at the 2012 UN Conference.

In October of 2009 Secretary of State Hillary Clinton stated that “the US is committed to actively pursuing a strong and robust treaty that contains the highest possible, legally-binding standards for the international transfer of conventional weapons.” By limiting the use and exchange of small arms, state's can reduce the amount of irresponsible arms transfers to terrorist and radical organizations. This can ultimately help achieve a common goal by all nations - protecting their citizens while protecting their national sovereignty. While the UN Arms Trade Treaty has not come to a vote on the Senate floor, I assure you that your concern will be considered in my decision making process.

Thank you again for contacting me to share your thoughts on this matter. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future if I can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,
Maria Cantwell
United States Senator”

49 posted on 07/09/2012 6:40:53 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: South40

And yet, gun owners aren’t up in arms.

Go your taxes - your government is broke. :)

/sarc(??????????????????????????)


50 posted on 07/09/2012 7:01:09 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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