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Virgil Goode for President?
washingtonexaminer.com ^ | July 7 2012 | washingtonexaminer.com

Posted on 07/04/2012 2:39:41 PM PDT by NoLibZone

Former Virginia congressman Virgil Goode may be looking for a new job: Presidential candidate.

That’s one way to read a fundraising appeal the Constitution Party recently issued:

Former Virginia Congressman, Virgil Goode, has expressed a strong interest in seeking the Constitution Party Presidential nomination in 2012 and at its meeting this past weekend, the Constitution Party National Committee unanimously passed a resolution inviting him to do just that.

Okay, so the party has invited Goode to go for it. The GOP and Democratic Party don’t issue similar exhortations when candidates seek their party nominations, but maybe they should test the idea in fundraising to see if it lifts response rates.

But what of Mr. Goode? Followers of Virginia politics will recall that he was a long-time member of the state Senate – and a Democrat. He was a big early supporter of the Equal Rights Amendment. But he wasn’t always an obedient Democrat, as he mounted primary challenges to then-incumbent U.S. Senator Chuck Robb in 1994 and was part of a power-sharing agreement with state Republicans as they began their ascendancy under then-Gov. George Allen (R).

Elected to Congress in 1996, he became an independent in January 2000 and was re-elected in November. Eventually, Goode became a Republican, and voters in Virginia's 5th congressional district sent him back to Washington five more times. In 2008, he narrowly lost his seat to Democrat Tom Perriello, who was defeated in 2010 by former GOP state Sen. Robert Hurt.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012election; alternatives2mitt; alternatives2obama; contitutionparty; goode2012; mittalternatives; notmitt; thirdparty; va2012; virgil; virgilgoode
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1 posted on 07/04/2012 2:39:50 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

Can any one offer an alternative to Obama ?

The following are out - as they support Mitt:

Newt
Sarah
Ricks Perry and Santorum
Herman Cain
Michelle Bachmann


2 posted on 07/04/2012 2:43:23 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08. Right?)
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To: NoLibZone

Don’t let him become Ralph Nader or Ross Perot. Four years of Obama are enough. There will be at least three new SCOTUS justices during the next four years.


3 posted on 07/04/2012 2:44:16 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: NoLibZone
Can any one offer an alternative to Obama ?

Gary Johnson, former governor of New Mexico.
I'd be pleased with him taking Ron Paul as VP [I think he'd be interesting as President of the Senate], or Sec of Treasury [he'd then be in a position to release a *lot* about the Fed Reserve].

4 posted on 07/04/2012 2:58:24 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: NoLibZone
After the 1995 elections resulted in a 20–20 split between Democrats and Republicans in the Virginia state Senate, Goode seriously considered voting with the Republicans on organizing the chamber, but did not.

He ran and was elected to Congress as a Clinton era Democrat. Now he wants to throw the election to the worst possible Democrat. He must really be an anti-Mormon bigot to want a homosexual friendly moslem in the WH. No thanks

5 posted on 07/04/2012 3:01:00 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: NoLibZone

Where was he during the GOP primary? Sorry but the time for “me too” candidates is over.


6 posted on 07/04/2012 3:08:06 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: NoLibZone
Please see here for a good alternative to Mitt Romney.
7 posted on 07/04/2012 3:09:04 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: NoLibZone

Also see:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2902864/posts

On Virgil Goode


8 posted on 07/04/2012 3:21:06 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08. Right?)
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To: Poser
Four years of Obama are enough.

Then pray Romney is not the ultimate Republican nominee; I will personally consider that to be the end of the Republican party.

9 posted on 07/04/2012 3:29:46 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I really don’t care much about the demise or lack of demise of the Republican Party. I do care about the next three SCOTUS justices. We know who Obama will nominate. Any Republican will do better, including Romney at his worst.


10 posted on 07/04/2012 3:36:49 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: NoLibZone

I would be happy to unite behind a real conservative. But I’m afraid Virgil Goode is not very impressive. Virtually unknown, and not terribly conservative, either.

I agree that if Romney gets it, we are screwed. But I don’t see a really good alternative anywhere out there—yet.


11 posted on 07/04/2012 3:40:32 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NoLibZone

He sounds like a Cut and Run clone. He doesn’t know what he is and has never done a thing. About the only difference is he can not bring home the bacon as well as the surrender monkey can.


12 posted on 07/04/2012 3:41:25 PM PDT by John D
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To: Poser
Any Republican will do better, including Romney at his worst.

mitt's actions of nominating radical counter-constitutionalists shows otherwise. Those are the facts.

13 posted on 07/04/2012 3:46:52 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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To: Poser

Bush II gave use Roberts. Any other bright ideas ?


14 posted on 07/04/2012 3:48:21 PM PDT by DanZ
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To: Poser
I really don’t care much about the demise or lack of demise of the Republican Party. I do care about the next three SCOTUS justices. We know who Obama will nominate. Any Republican will do better, including Romney at his worst.

I very much disagree with this sort of reasoning. It is exactly the same as the "any Democrat is better than any Republican" line I've heard elsewhere.
Furthermore, it supposes that Romney will nominate people who are substantially different than the sort Obama will; they are both socialists, both statists, therefore it is absurd to think that one would choose to nominate a person of an inherently different caliber than the other. Furthermore, it utterly discounts that w/o the senate's approval the nomination is useless; that is, if we had a strong senate even the worst of Presidents could not put a bad justice on the Supreme Court.

15 posted on 07/04/2012 3:48:37 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: NoLibZone
Can any one offer an alternative to Obama ?

Can you offer an alternative that can win? I didn't want Romney as our candidate either, but as things stand now our next President is going to be either Romney or Obama. Unless someone can offer a Conservative alternative that can win, I'll be voting ABO.

16 posted on 07/04/2012 3:51:56 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (With choices like Palin, Cain, and Bachmann, what could go wrong? Now we know.)
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To: af_vet_1981

I’ve seen some data indicating Goode might pull 5% in Virginia.

Certainly enough to put that state in Baraq’s column.

Nothing says “Democrat win” like a Clintonian plurality.

Would really be tragic if Va was the electoral margin of victory.


17 posted on 07/04/2012 3:56:00 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: NoLibZone

Newt
Sarah
Ricks Perry and Santorum
Herman Cain
Michelle Bachmann

Interesting, they certainly would merit the scorn of FReepers.


18 posted on 07/04/2012 3:57:12 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: OneWingedShark

Any Republican is better than Obama. A vote for Goode is a vote that Obama won’t need to win. Those are the facts.

If you don’t live in a swing state, be my guest and vote for Mickey Mouse if you want. No harm done and you can send a message. If you are in a state that might decide our next President and the next three SCOTUS justices, hold your nose and vote for Romney.


19 posted on 07/04/2012 4:03:47 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: OneWingedShark
Realistically speaking, there are only two choices for POTUS. It's just the way it is right now.

The way to make change is from the bottom up: local elections, state elections, federal House and Senate seats.

IMHO, we can't afford 4 more years of Obama, and there's not a snowball's chance etc. that a third-party candidate can win the POTUS election.

Just vote your conscience. We will persevere no matter what, to restore "Independence Day" to what it should be, except it just might take a while!!

20 posted on 07/04/2012 4:04:29 PM PDT by 88keys (we had better get our act together, or Obama's re-elected...)
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To: NoLibZone

Article is dated June 8, 2011.

But, with regard to the topic, I have looked seriously at Virgil Goode. Although he is preferable to Romney or Obama, I am more comfortable at this point in my protest vote, so to speak, with Tom Hoefling. Goode’s most heartfelt issue seems to be immigration, but seems not quite so intense about some of the more classic issues for social conservatives. He seems to have somewhat of a libertarian leaning and is courting kindred spirits of sorts among the Ron Paul groupies.

I’m leaning toward Hoefling.


21 posted on 07/04/2012 4:12:53 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

I know,

There is little news reacting to Virgil Goode and I post it for the purposes of discussion on alternatives to Obama and Mitt.

We have covered what we don’t want but rarely discuss options.

Weird isn’t it?


22 posted on 07/04/2012 4:19:49 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08. Right?)
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To: NoLibZone

Understood. I figured that was the case.


23 posted on 07/04/2012 4:28:16 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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To: 88keys
Just vote your conscience. We will persevere no matter what, to restore "Independence Day" to what it should be, except it just might take a while!!

Indeed this is so, there are a lot of people saying, basically, that to "vote your conscience is to give Obama the presidency".

IMHO, we can't afford 4 more years of Obama, and there's not a snowball's chance etc. that a third-party candidate can win the POTUS election.

I disagree. We could easily afford another four years of Obama; what we cannot afford is Senators and Representatives that just roll over any time he does something. -- IE we need men of integrity -- I believe that all of Obama's actions would be invalidated if they really were to uphold the Constitution... but even if Obama qualified to be President, virtually none of the things he's enacted would have been possible with the Congress actively acting against him. (That is saying nothing about impeachment.)

The way to make change is from the bottom up: local elections, state elections, federal House and Senate seats.

Agreed. Though I've just moved to a new state; got in yesterday... so I may not vote at all for the local elections; given that it'd be a totally ignorant shot in the dark.

Realistically speaking, there are only two choices for POTUS. It's just the way it is right now.

Indeed, and that is why I cannot vote for Romney. It only sends the message to the Republican party that "it's ok, I'll vote for whoever you pick."
in short, I have no faith in the Repiblican-party as a whole, nor in Romney as an individual, to even attempt to do what they claim to want to do.

24 posted on 07/04/2012 4:57:11 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: nascarnation
"Interesting, they certainly would merit the scorn of FReepers"

BUT, they don't (merit the scorn) to the majority of FReepers. Just the vocal minority of the FR population.

25 posted on 07/04/2012 5:02:58 PM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Poser
We know who Obama will nominate. Any Republican will do better, including Romney at his worst.

I'm sure people were thinking that with Chief Justice Roberts. Romney's nomination record is not something to support. We're going to get screwed by either the democrats or the Republicans, it's just a matter of how bad.
26 posted on 07/04/2012 5:04:08 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: NoLibZone
Virgil who?

Oh yeah, he is NOT Mitt and NOT a Mormon, so he MUST be acceptable (nay, "Preferable") to the handful of oh, so, "PRINCIPLED" Freepers who would as soon help Dear Leader get reelected than see Romney become our President.

Makes sense to me. /sarc!

27 posted on 07/04/2012 5:05:28 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: OneWingedShark
"Indeed, and that is why I cannot vote for Romney. It only sends the message to the Republican party that "it's ok, I'll vote for whoever you pick." in short, I have no faith in the Repiblican-party as a whole, nor in Romney as an individual, to even attempt to do what they claim to want to do."

Then why don't you get gone from the FR forum and quit wasting our bandwidth!?!

28 posted on 07/04/2012 5:05:28 PM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: harpu
Then why don't you get gone from the FR forum and quit wasting our bandwidth!?!

"Our" bandwidth? You're Jim Robinson? I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you created and own Free Republic. So, Jim Robinson, just to be clear, you're supporting mitt now? I was confused, because a little while ago you were saying that Free Republic was Conservative, pro-Life, pro-2nd Amendment, pro-Constitution, anti-gay, pro-Freedom, and now you're saying that you are not.

Which is it?

29 posted on 07/04/2012 5:14:02 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (Goode over evil. Voting for mitt or obie is like throwing your country away.)
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To: af_vet_rr
Romney's nomination record is not something to support. We're going to get screwed by either the democrats or the Republicans, it's just a matter of how bad.

It may be easier for our side to keep Romney in line. If Obama wins, with MSM support he'll be unstoppable. Since President Romney-R won't get any cover from the MSM, we and a GOP controlled Congress may be able to stop any leftist ideas he proposes.

Besides, maybe we'll get lucky and he'll nominate a true Conservative as his running mate.

30 posted on 07/04/2012 5:19:04 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (With choices like Palin, Cain, and Bachmann, what could go wrong? Now we know.)
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To: Poser
Any Republican is better than Obama.

Demonstrably false. Romney, for example, will likely be a windsock blowing whatever way he perceives would be advantageous... and he who doesn't stand for something will fall for anything, as the saying says.

A vote for Goode is a vote that Obama won’t need to win. Those are the facts.

Ok, let me put it this way: on pure principal Obama would be the better choice to vote for if you were constrained to vote for only the Democratic or Republican for one simple fact: Democrats strive for their platform-planks, Republicans do not. (It is somewhat similar to the Knights and Knaves logic puzzle, except that instead of being amusing the two parties always seek to expand the state's power where one group is honest and the other lies about it.) Thus the two parties, and candidates, being approximately equal it would be better to increase the truth in peoples lives instead of encouraging delusion. (ie If we are slaves better to be aware of it that not have the fact hidden.)

31 posted on 07/04/2012 5:21:45 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
IMHO, it is a huge risk to think that we can work from the bottom up, right now, and be able to elect enough conservative House and Senate members at the federal level to stop anything President Obama wants to enact in a second 4-year term. I don't think we'll get a sufficient majority this year, anyway, and remember the havoc wreaked (i.e. Obamacare legislation) in the first two years of his first term.
32 posted on 07/04/2012 5:25:48 PM PDT by 88keys (we had better get our act together, or Obama's re-elected...)
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To: Sirius Lee; Poser
>Any Republican will do better, including Romney at his worst.
mitt's actions of nominating radical counter-constitutionalists shows otherwise. Those are the facts.

Indeed, I was surprised to find myself agreeing with one of the USSC justices Obama nominated. (I think it was a 4th amd case, where the majority ruled in favor of the gov/police.)

33 posted on 07/04/2012 5:27:10 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: NoLibZone

Goode only appeals to political retards.


34 posted on 07/04/2012 5:28:28 PM PDT by pgkdan (ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!)
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To: harpu
To: OneWingedShark "Indeed, and that is why I cannot vote for Romney. It only sends the message to the Republican party that "it's ok, I'll vote for whoever you pick." in short, I have no faith in the Repiblican-party as a whole, nor in Romney as an individual, to even attempt to do what they claim to want to do."

Then why don't you get gone from the FR forum and quit wasting our bandwidth!?!

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Way to go!

Kudos!

Hats off to you my friend.

If I knew who you were and lived close by, I'd be honored to buy you an adult beverage or three. Hell, I'd buy you a bottle of your choice!!!

35 posted on 07/04/2012 5:29:31 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: OneWingedShark

You arrange idiot. Anymore just vote for obama and be done with it. Moron.


36 posted on 07/04/2012 5:31:04 PM PDT by pgkdan (ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!)
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To: harpu; Jim Robinson
>"Indeed, and that is why I cannot vote for Romney. It only sends the message to the Republican party that "it's ok, I'll vote for whoever you pick." in short, I have no faith in the Repiblican-party as a whole, nor in Romney as an individual, to even attempt to do what they claim to want to do."

Then why don't you get gone from the FR forum and quit wasting our bandwidth!?!

We are pro-God, pro-Life, pro-family, pro-Liberty, pro-traditional American constitutional conservatism on FR and we are funded by gifts made to us by our readers and participants who agree with our goals of defending our God-given Liberty, our constitution, and re-establishing constitutionally limited government in our beloved nation, and who agree that our endeavors here are worthwhile and worth funding. Those who do not agree with our goals or endeavors, by all means should not participate in our fundraising efforts or on our forum.
— Jim Robinson

I see stuff in there about being constitutionally conservative... not so much about toeing the party line or following lemmings off a cliff.

37 posted on 07/04/2012 5:40:08 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Sirius Lee
/sarcasm

No need for it, it's unhelpful, and IMHO, a "conservative discussion forum" is far superior than a "preaching to the choir on every personal issue" site.

Also, just a "tip" for you...I think you should not take Jim Robinson's name "in vain" - he is the inestimable founder of Free Republic, and if you are going to be "confused" about who you are addressing, you might refrain from posting until you figure it out.

FReegards

38 posted on 07/04/2012 5:44:59 PM PDT by 88keys (we had better get our act together, or Obama's re-elected...)
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To: Sirius Lee; harpu; Jim Robinson

Nope, Sirius Lee, Jim Robinson has not changed. One of his recents posts yesterday or today makes very clear that there’s no way he is support Mitt Romney.

Harpu is operating under faulty info. Jim hasn’t changed.


39 posted on 07/04/2012 5:49:54 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Sirius Lee; harpu; Jim Robinson

Nope, Sirius Lee, Jim Robinson has not changed. One of his recents posts yesterday or today makes very clear that there’s no way he is supporting Mitt Romney.

Harpu is operating under faulty info. Jim hasn’t changed.


40 posted on 07/04/2012 5:50:15 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: pgkdan
You arrange idiot. Anymore just vote for obama and be done with it. Moron.

Perhaps you are correct. Perhaps OneWingedShark does arrange idiots. Did he put you near the front of the line?
41 posted on 07/04/2012 5:55:54 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Question: Why is that retort applause-worthy?
Question: If my claim of having little faith in the Republican party to follow-up on its stated platform planks is wrong why?
Question: How is the reasoning I’ve put forward morally-wrong or logically-inconsistent? (Note that IF-statements are always true if the conditional is false.)


42 posted on 07/04/2012 6:02:47 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: pgkdan
You arrange idiot.

I don't think I arranged anything. Anymore just vote for obama and be done with it.

Well, that's what people keep saying vote for Romney.

Moron.

Right, I'm a moron. [/sarc]

43 posted on 07/04/2012 6:09:30 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
To: Conservative Vermont Vet Question: Why is that retort applause-worthy?

Because, simply put, those of you who have an IRATIONAL Hatred for Mitt and/or Mormons, could care less about the SAFETY and SURVIVAL of our Republic and would as soon see Dear Leader get reelected so he can spend another 4 years finishing what he started up to now.

I SERIOUSLY doubt there is ONE Freeper here who wanted to see Mittens as the nominee.

That said, most of us recognize the THREAT Dear Leader poses to the United States and will do whatever we can to try and prevent him from being successful.

Y'all can stand on your so called "Principles;" we will stand, fight and oppose EVIL!!!

44 posted on 07/04/2012 7:49:01 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
It may be easier for our side to keep Romney in line. If Obama wins, with MSM support he'll be unstoppable. Since President Romney-R won't get any cover from the MSM, we and a GOP controlled Congress may be able to stop any leftist ideas he proposes.

We couldn't keep Bush in line with both the House and Senate - they went crazy, pigs at a trough, and we ended up with the biggest, most intrusive, and most expensive federal government in our history, until Obama came along. I have seen nothing in Romney's record or his past that leads me to believe that Romney won't be just as bad as Bush.
45 posted on 07/04/2012 8:03:27 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
Y'all can stand on your so called "Principles;" we will stand, fight and oppose EVIL!!!

Will you shed blood to oppose evil? I have been thinking about this since 2008, and I am still not sure I posses the stones to bleed for my principles, I should like to hope that I do, though such a musing, ultimately, is worthless until the "rubber hits the road." -- I admit that I view the world as black/white, good/evil, and that I am 'idealistic', my retort to you is: so what? Your "fighting evil" by aligning yourself with evil (socialist comrade Romney) is actually not fighting against evil, but fighting for evil... ok, so it's not vicious and violent evil but a smiling, "all the cool kids are doing it" evil.

46 posted on 07/04/2012 8:23:18 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: harpu
"Then why don't you get gone from the FR forum and quit wasting our bandwidth!?!"

I'm sorry, did I miss something? Has Jim changed this from a conservative forum to a GOP forum?

47 posted on 07/04/2012 8:37:37 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America, where are you now?" - Little "r" republican!)
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To: Jim Robinson
"Jim Robinson has not changed. One of his recents posts yesterday or today makes very clear that there’s no way he is supporting Mitt Romney."

Is it true...you are in 'no way' supporting Mitt Romney if he is the Republican nominee?

48 posted on 07/05/2012 8:34:18 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: harpu

I have been posting that fact ever since the abortionist/homosexualists Rudy and Romney started making noises about possibly running for the presidency way back when. I will not go along with the shift to progressivism by the Republican party. I flat will not vote for the abortionist/homosexualist statist bastards!!

What part of Free Republic is pro-God, pro-Life, pro-family, pro-small (constitutionally limited) government, pro-Liberty do you not understand?


49 posted on 07/05/2012 10:03:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

OK, JimRob. We’ll put you down as a “maybe”. (Just kidding. Read my tag line.)


50 posted on 07/05/2012 10:39:35 AM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands (Mitt Romney is a handbasket driver. I refuse to ride.)
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