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Romney camp sides with Obama that health insurance mandate is not tax
washingtonpost.com ^

Posted on 07/03/2012 5:06:20 AM PDT by tsowellfan

Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign on Monday rejected a Republican attack on the Affordable Care Act, repudiating a contention made in last week’s Supreme Court decision that the law’s requirement that individuals carry medical coverage amounts to a tax.

The Romney team’s refusal to invoke the word “tax” with regard to the individual mandate puts the candidate at odds with others in his party at a moment when Republicans are attempting to capi­tal­ize on the Supreme Court’s decision, which deemed President Obama’s health-care law constitutional. Some Republican-led states are trying to thwart the legislation’s effort to cover the poor.

In an interview Monday on MSNBC, Romney campaign senior adviser Eric Fehrnstrom said the former Massachusetts governor “disagrees with the court’s ruling that the mandate was a tax.”

Although disappointing to conservatives, the justices’ decision contained what they regard as two silver linings: the potential to fuel political opposition to the law and a path to undermine its substance.

First, in ruling that Congress has the ability under its taxation power to fine people who choose not to have health coverage, the court undercut Obama’s credibility on how to define that provision. The president had insisted repeatedly that it is not a tax....

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1 posted on 07/03/2012 5:06:28 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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2 posted on 07/03/2012 5:07:56 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: tsowellfan; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; ...

Romney has no choice because his on record saying this about Romney-care in the past.

I remember Coulter, Rove, McCain, Christie,... and a bunch of RINOs where I live claiming that Romney-care would not be a problem in this race against Obama and Obam-ney Care.


3 posted on 07/03/2012 5:13:16 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is a liberal. Just watch him closely try to screw us. (it's Obam-ney Care))
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To: tsowellfan
This is largely what John McCain did in 2008 -- "What did Barack say? Well, I agree with him."

That's no way to run a serious campaign, Sparky.

4 posted on 07/03/2012 5:14:17 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Choosing between Roger Taney and John Roberts would be difficult.)
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To: sickoflibs

Mr. RomneyCARE INVENTED ObamaCARE and the idiot GOP
makes Mr. RomneyCARE their figurehead EXACTLY when
America HATES RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE.

GOP = The STUPID Party


5 posted on 07/03/2012 5:15:13 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: tsowellfan

Incredible stupidity. This is why the ‘Pubbies lose elections. The man isn’t elected yet, and is already stabbing conservatives in the back. We are SO screwed.


6 posted on 07/03/2012 5:16:17 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: tsowellfan

Time to mutiny, the new captain of the SS GOP has no clue how to steer the ship, has out of date maps for the shoals and thinks his vessel is unsinkable.


7 posted on 07/03/2012 5:17:42 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Is your state Obamacare free yet?)
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To: tsowellfan

Way to go Mitt...stop being stupid and taking a winning issue off the table.

dumbazz.


8 posted on 07/03/2012 5:22:07 AM PDT by Adder (Da bro has GOT to go!)
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To: Adder
taking a winning issue off the table

worth repeating

taking a winning issue off the table

9 posted on 07/03/2012 5:27:40 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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It matters not what the camp or Obama says. The question is decided. The argument is over. It is a Tax. The issue is decided.

If there is disagreement or disdain or hate, the remedy is not involved with what is or is not a tax. The remedy is involved in a process that tosses the tax out and doing it over in an acceptable manner.

Grumbling after the fact is irrelevant. It is a tax. The decision was handed down


10 posted on 07/03/2012 5:29:01 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: tsowellfan

Romney appears to be the typical Republican Establishment presidential candidate, in the mold of Dole/McCain/Ford. His idea os the pinnacle is the Republican Party Nomination. He seems, at best, to be indifferent to winning the presidency, perhaps even averse. The Republican Party is afflicted with Gentlemen Politicians who want the acclaim of other Republican gentlemen but not so much the onus of governing.


11 posted on 07/03/2012 5:29:06 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: tsowellfan

“Reagan-like Romney is,” eh?


12 posted on 07/03/2012 5:29:25 AM PDT by Thorliveshere
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We can't have it both ways - criticizing Roberts for calling it a tax to make it constitutional then trashing Romney for agreeing, and not calling it a tax. Romney is siding with the dissenters, who made a much more compelling argument against the law. (All that commerce clause stuff feels good, but in not binding as precedent.)

The argument against Obama that he passed the biggest tax increase ever based on Obamacare is weak. The fact he thinks the Federal Gov’t can run health care better than the private sector and that he rammed through this unpopular socialist program remains the issue. It is what won the 2010 mid-terms. And, he ignored other pressing issues while ramming away. This is also a strong counter argument against immigration policy, economy issues, etc.

Although we all would have rather Roberts side with the conservatives on the Court, this decision will bring a lot of energy, anger and participation to those on the right. It may turn out to be the deciding factor in November. We need the Tea Partiers to get revved up again!

Romney is right - it is not, nor should have been ruled a tax. That being said, since it was ruled a tax, reconciliation works in the Senate and we only need 51 votes to overturn there- need 4 more seats. That is where the action will be!

We need Romney and 4 Senators to take back the country. During Romney's 8 years, a bunch of liberals will likely leave bench and with the Senate, we can get some real conservative appointed.

13 posted on 07/03/2012 5:33:54 AM PDT by dan on the right
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This is just the opposite of what’s being reported today. They are saying today that Romney agrees it is a tax. Gov Christie says its both a tax and a penalty.


14 posted on 07/03/2012 5:34:32 AM PDT by Harley
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To: tsowellfan

Every response on this thread, so far has bitten into the media bias, hook, line and sinker. It is leading into destructive behavior; Romney’s stupid, Romney’s doing what McCain did, etc, etc.

At worst, the Romney camp is guilty of not giving a clear and concise response. While that is a problem in and of itself, it is a far cry from capitulation to obama on the issue. And what is worse, Romney is right; it IS a penalty.

The Dems are trying to have it both ways; it’s NOT a tax, but rather a penalty (despite what the SC says) and it’s constitutional (despite what the SC says).

The Romney camp is saying, Gov. Romney has ALWAYS held that it was a penalty, and it’s constitutionally legal in the state of Mass. The problem is that they haven’t gone the extra step to explain how that fits with the SC ruling on the issue. Instead of lining it out in simple terms, they fumbled and assumed that people are smart enough to know the difference.

It’s obvious through the response of the libs, and the dazed look on the faces of people you talk to, that Civics 101, as taught in the US education system fails teach people how it all works. And that, combined with some people’s hate of Romney, or anyone else who is not a pure-strain conservative as they view themselves, is what will be the ultimate down-fall of our great nation.

My advice; teach people where they need to be taught. Die hard liberals won’t listen; most everyone else will, as long as you are teaching; not preaching.


15 posted on 07/03/2012 5:35:24 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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Addemdum, if what Harley posted about Romney changing his tune, then I think the Romney campaign is making a huge mistake.


16 posted on 07/03/2012 5:38:24 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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Every response on this thread, so far has bitten into the media bias, hook, line and sinker. It is leading into destructive behavior; Romney’s stupid, Romney’s doing what McCain did, etc, etc.

I'm with you. I'm not in any way thrilled with Romney, but he's the only option on the ballot who (1) might win, and (2) claims he will repeal ObamaCare. If Romney does in fact win and keeps his word on repeal, it will not matter what he said about this being a tax or a penalty. If Romney is a loser or a liar, then things will get VERY ugly, and again it will not matter what Romney said.

17 posted on 07/03/2012 5:39:24 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A boy becomes a man when a man is needed - John Steinbeck)
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To: bboop

IT IS A TAX. The Supreme Court said so

http://www.mittromney.com/forms/other

http://twitter.com/MittRomney

https://www.facebook.com/mittromney

Thank you, bboop!


18 posted on 07/03/2012 5:39:24 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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Why do peddle Lies and Propaganda from the Compost .
Rombey did not say that but the Obama media is pushing that bs.

Are you trying to help the Obama media push this talking point here and divide US and get obama elected !

I don’t trust your motives here !!!


19 posted on 07/03/2012 5:41:54 AM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !H)
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To: dan on the right

Thanks for being a voice of reason.


20 posted on 07/03/2012 5:44:21 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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