Posted on 07/02/2012 5:58:14 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
His prediction was 10 to 20 years old.
Personally, I don’t see the downside of secession. Let the Blue States pay the debt themselves.
Bump for later reading.
There is a part of me that would like to put conditions on the re-entry of said states. Unfortunately, in some cases, they won't be repentant, only seeking some relief while all the time scheming to re-institute their misery on those who are more prosperous.
Conditions would be:
1. Political leaders of said states would be imprisoned for life without possibility of parole, subject to a review of their activities in political office, and would be barred from future political office, engagement in the legal arena, or associations with government. Recidivists would invite prosecution of a capitol offense.
2. Members of the media in those states, who have engaged in blatant propaganda (knowingly or unknowingly) in support of said governments shall be banned from any future association with media activities. Recidivists and their enablers would be jailed similar to item 1.
3. Public school curricula would be reconstructed, subject to a review of subject matter. Educators would be evaluated on their history in the classroom as to whether they could continue in their careers.
4. Businesses that have been in partnership with said governments, and shown to have received favorable treatment (read:cronyism) shall have their corporate officers under review and those found to have been engaged in fraud shall be treated similar to the politicians in item 1.
5. Upon acceptance into union with the successful states, any and all laws that do not comport with the US Constitution will be null and void, and those arrested under said laws will have their cases reviewed for potential commutation of sentence or pardon.
I could think of more, but I no longer have any good will towards lefties. None.
CJ stands for “Court Jester.”
I live in Texas and I can actually see the citizens possibly considering secession. Yes, they are that angry and they want to be free. If we don't win in November PLUS keep the republicans on track to repeal Obama care then the wheels will begin to turn. I can see Texas having Perry say something to the effect of Obama care stops at the Texas border, no taxes, no penalties, no exchanges, no IRS agents. Accept it or you will be down to 49 states and counting. It sounds crazy but Obama and Roberts have put us on a path to disintegration.
The sooner we begin talking about this “polite society” the better.
First, you have the "Sanctuary Cities." Then there is Arizona attempting to control its foreign border because the elites in Washington won't do so. Now we have states talking about opting out of Obamacare.
I have been straining to figure out how the U.S. will collapse. I concluded that secession will be the mechanism. When more and more states defy Washington, how can the federal government pay for armies to suppress them?
I don’t think Federal Troops would attack fellow Americans. But you can be sure they’d be ordered to if any state attempted to seceded.
Both you are correct en mass.
The list would be a really good restart, although I would be just as happy to see them destitute, broke as the Ten Commandments first and begging for us to save them from those mean ol Nova Scotians and British Columbians.
Being a native Texan, I don’t need to say where I stand.
My conditions would be much simpler: You made your bed, now lie on it.
LIBs have been the cause of all the problems we face - loss of jobs, wastrful spending, illegals preferential treatmnet, no energy policy, disregard for the Constitution, etc. Once gone, close and bolt the door.
BFLR
Possible, but I don’t think it likely in the case of a reasonably peaceable parting of the ways. I actually think that the left would be delighted to see some of the red states go it on their own. While I don’t consider myself a secesher, thanks to our scotus its well on its way to becoming a strategy openly discussed in polite company.
Great point. Then to top it off, when Putin was sworn in on May 7, 2012 - he said that Russia was NOW a “Democracy”!
That’s Not MY kind of Democracy- or Yours! How dare he! A Two faced jerk-monster! Now THAT makes me boil!
We have the best Western - Out-standing Democracy: a Constitutional Republic. All other countries want it; our valiant military men are fighting - and have laid down their lives for it. We won’t let them down.
Yes, you are right - I also read the same thing about dividing up the world. - We are one tough country! We will turn into a fire-breathing DRAGON if that ever happens! We have power! We have history of standing strong for our country! No one is going to split us up!
So...look out UN - NATO: Don’t even think of coming into our country! We will always stay SOVEREIGN! That’s it! That’s the end of it! Period, Exclaimation Mark!
Have a FANTASTIC-SUPER 4th of July!
Whenever the subject of secession comes up, my first thought is of Texas, a state with the resources to go it alone. But here's the question: aren't there too many Hispanics in that state that would not go along? I don't think of them as being steeped in and/or revolutionary on the matter of the principles of U.S. Constitution.
Your thoughts, please.
You raise valid points that are still irritants within reunited Germany. After a point, the mentality and philosophies just do not mesh anymore - of course, that is the premise behind dissolution in the first place.
“After a point, the mentality and philosophies just do not mesh anymore - of course, that is the premise behind dissolution in the first place.”
Sound familiar?
We don’t need to actually secede, just kick out of the union Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Detroit, Chicago, Madison, Miami, Seattle, San Fransisco, LA and Vermont.
Give the eastern cities to Canada and the ones on the west coast make dependent republics.
A free Republic of Texas with it's own ports, own power grid and own sources of energy could protect their own borders, establish their own financial and government centers, institute a flat tax and run economic circles around the United States if it holds fast to principles of individual rights and freedoms over the power of an overintrusive government.
In fact, Texas has the medical facilities now to be the doctors of choice to all those who want to flee ObamaCare and the Canadian Health Care system as soon as they cut ties.
All we need are enough people with the vision and the courage to make it happen.
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