Posted on 06/28/2012 10:07:19 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
A sentiment widely shared today, no doubt. Over at Ace’s place, DrewM issues a warning:
Dear GOP,
This is your last chance. If you blow this, I’m out and you need to be destroyed.
What is it? Repeal ObamaCare on Day 1. Don’t worry about replace, don’t worry about anything else…
[A]s soon as Mitt takes the oath of office, before his speech no one will care or remember, walk the bill up to him at the podium to sign.
If this does not happen, the GOP must be destroyed and a new party built to replace it. We’ve tried the carrot approach (votes, money, volunteers) to change your behavior. Now it’s time to show you the stick.
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David Frum counters: If you think the GOP’s going to repeal ObamaCare now, you’re kidding yourselves.
"[E]ven if Republicans do win the White House and Senate in 2012, how much appetite will they then have for that 1-page repeal bill? Suddenly it will be their town halls filled with outraged senior citizens whose benefits are threatened; their incumbencies that will be threatened. Already we are hearing that some Republicans wish to retain the more popular elements of the Affordable Care Act (ACA). Which means the proposed 1-page bill will begin to grow…
Republicans will find the task of writing their “replace” law even more agonizing than the Democrats found original passage. The party has no internal consensus on what a replacement would look like. Worse, any replacement of the law’s popular elements will require financing. But where is that money to come from? New taxes are unacceptable. The proceeds of “closing loopholes” are already spoken for—that’s how President Romney has promised to finance his promise to cut the top rate of tax 28%. And he’s also promised to increase defense spending…"
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That’s all fine, but Drew’s captured the mood of the base well in his post, I think. If the GOP ends up with the numbers to repeal O-Care, it’d be a catastrophic, possibly politically fatal betrayal at this point for them not to follow through. The fact that it was Roberts who swung to the left in today’s decision rather than the mercurial Kennedy only compounds conservatives’ trauma: At this point, a la Beck, it really does feel like there’s no one in a position of power who can be trusted. The last Republican president ran up big deficits and expanded health-care entitlements; the Republican chief justice he appointed just voted to uphold ObamaCare; and the current Republican nominee pioneered the concept of health-care mandates in Massachusetts. If a Republican-controlled Congress rubber-stamps Obama’s health-care leviathan by refusing to act on it, I don’t know what happens to turnout in 2014 and 2016. Good news for the No Labels crowd, I guess — that’ll be the closest America’s come yet to seeing a true third party develop. Democrats on the left, conservatives on the right, and the no-labels rump of the GOP smack dab in the center. They might as well take their chances with angry seniors at those townhalls; you might win them back eventually, but you won’t win back righties who’ve suffered one too many sellouts.
Well, the good thing is, Beck is back on Philly Radio - 106.9 FM, followed by Rush at noon and then Hannity - just like the old lineup on Philly WPHT 1210 AM before CBS purged their stations.
But yeah, I know what you mean - I enjoyed seeing him on Fox and watching the reaction of the commie retards to every word he uttered.
RE “Shoved off”
Same with Judge Napolitano...
That’s a lot of “ifs”, Rita.
Unless Captain Romnoid sweeps into office with a filibuster proof majority in the Senate, there's no way a repeal happens.
I still don’t understand why anyone seriously thinks the bill will be repealed? Don’t people pay attention to the way things have worked and are working?
Even if Romney wins, the GOP holds the House, and wins the Senate, they ARE NOT going to win 60 seats in the Senate. The GOP House will vote to repeal, the bill will be passed to the Senate and the Democrats will simply filibuster it and not let it be voted on. Especially since the GOP have done this, they will be itching to return the favor. By January 1, 2014 nearly 60% of the bill is due to be implemented. They will hold off until then.
It’s here to stay. The only chance was the Supreme Court in my opinion. And they failed. It’s here to stay.
Bull!!! There is potential to win 70 seats this fall- 23 are in Democrat hands and are up for Reelection.
All 23 of those Senators now HAVE to campaign with gasoline at 4.00/gal, unemployment at 8.5% and having passed the largest tax increase the world has ever seen, in all of human history, as well as the most comprehensive set of bureaucratic shackles ever crafted, in the history of the world. Good Luck..enjoy the #%it sandwich you've made...
All it takes is Romney and 51 Senators.
Exactly
Yeah and most of them are winning right now by 7+ points. I think even the most optimistic of people would agree that getting to 58 would probably be peak. Flipping 9 or 10 Senate seats in one election is really a monumental task. And the GOP would have to flip 23 as you say to get to 70. It’s not going to happen.
” But yeah, I know what you mean - I enjoyed seeing him on Fox and watching the reaction of the commie retards to every word he uttered.
RE “Shoved off”
Same with Judge Napolitano...”
Right on both counts.
I know. :)
Rita.
Hannity complained about the GM bailout. Then GM bought him and he shut up. How did they buy him? By advertising on his show and giving him a Suburban to ride around in. He’s one big hypocrite who loves to hear his own voice. I’ll bet he goes home at night and listens to a replay of that day’s show with all the callers edited out.
I’d bet $$ it’d be the same gaggle that passed TSA, the Patriot Act, Medicare Part-D and any number of other gov’t growth bills.
Just because they 99.9% all ganged up for a group-photo opportunity doesn’t make any one of them worth a warm piss if they were on fire.
Well then, that settles that! If we clearly and earnestly tell GOPe international fascists that we are tired of being betrayed, surely they will stop it. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Vote for Mittens.
No. When one of the two dominate parties implodes another party rises to second party status. The GOP may be reaching that point. From the forced nomination of Romney to it’s inability to adapt to the rise of conservatism, the GOP has resisted change. While I certainly wouldn’t predict when the party will fall, it seems that major changes will need to occur if the GOP is to be a relavent force twenty years from now.
Just When you thought There wasn’t enough room on your Back for another Knife....
I’m not so sure 3rd parties are out of the question any more. That is if the Republicans don’t come through on what they’ve been campaigning on. ( replacing Obamacare, re-invigorating our oil industry, protecting our borders, changing the tax system and doing something to stabilize Social Security and Medicare)
I would prefer the platform of the Constitution Party and Tea Party policies are appealing. I’d have to study the Libertarian party.
Other than help Democrats.
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