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House should hold Holder in contempt (The Seattle Times Editorial Board!)
The Seattle Times Editorial Board ^ | June 26, 2012 | Masthead Editorial

Posted on 06/28/2012 11:16:20 AM PDT by neverdem

The Seattle Times editorial board argues that the Justice Department should hand over documents regarding the "Fast and Furious" gun-sale program, or else the House of Representatives should declare Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress.

EXECUTIVE privilege is a principle dangerous to democracy, whether invoked by a Republican or Democratic president. The Obama administration has invoked it and now is threatened with retaliation: House Republicans say unless the administration hands over subpoenaed documents, they will vote Thursday to declare Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress. If that is what it takes, they should do it.

It is an election year, so the administration's defenders are saying that a call for disclosure is "all politics." Of course there is political hay in it, but the request is still valid. Congress needs to know about botched government programs.

This was one. Called "Fast and Furious," it was a sting operation run out of the Phoenix, Ariz., office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives from 2009 to 2011. Its aim was to allow Mexican drug organizations to buy illegal guns so that U.S. agents could follow the guns, arrest the people who had them and destroy the cartels...

--snip--

The Mexican government also said Fast and Furious guns were found at 170 crime scenes in Mexico...

--snip--

Another 1,300 pages under House of Representatives subpoena were the subject of a presidential order of executive privilege, the first such order of Obama's presidency. That is what the argument is about.

Obama has said he did not know about Fast and Furious, and Issa does not claim the president knew. That is not the issue.

The issue is whether Congress has the right to learn about it, and it does.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; fastandfurious; holder

1 posted on 06/28/2012 11:16:24 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Does it matter?


2 posted on 06/28/2012 11:21:52 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: no-to-illegals; Travis McGee; Joe Brower; El Gato; wardaddy; Squantos; SunkenCiv; MestaMachine; ...
BANG! How about that?

no-to-illegals, they are probably not anonymous. The NY Times listed the members of their editorial board the last time that I checked.

3 posted on 06/28/2012 11:33:40 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: brownsfan
Does it matter?

In uber left Seattle? You betcha!

4 posted on 06/28/2012 11:37:07 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

But will they? And then what?


5 posted on 06/28/2012 11:38:27 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: neverdem

Thus we may assume these were the only participants, those under the employ?


6 posted on 06/28/2012 11:48:22 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: ozzymandus
But will they? And then what?

Why pull your punches after all this grief? The House needs a Senate that they can work with, right? Dump an impeached Holder on the Senate before November. Let the rat senators deal with the consequences of their vote to remove Holder or not. They are defending about 23 seats this November.

With today's SCOTUS Obamacare decision, I won't be surprised if the Contempt of Congress vote is delayed.

7 posted on 06/28/2012 11:51:48 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

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8 posted on 06/28/2012 11:55:07 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: neverdem
I won't be surprised if the Contempt of Congress vote is delayed.

They're allowing one minute speeches prior to the vote right now. The vote should happen within an hour or so I guess.

9 posted on 06/28/2012 11:56:32 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is, it is the only answer.)
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To: neverdem

Wow...Seattle? Wow


10 posted on 06/28/2012 12:00:43 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: no-to-illegals

Thanks for the link.


11 posted on 06/28/2012 12:07:19 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: AuntB
Wow...Seattle? Wow

I'm shocked too...
12 posted on 06/28/2012 12:12:17 PM PDT by freebird5850 (Just don't have a tagline today. This administration makes me quite sad.)
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To: no-to-illegals
Thus we may assume these were the only participants, those under the employ?

MEET THE STAFF The staff for the editorial pages of The Seattle Times is separate from other editors and writers at the newspaper. Their work is guided by The Seattle Times Editorial Board.

Here you can learn more about the staff, who they are, the neighborhoods they live in and their professional backgrounds.

13 posted on 06/28/2012 12:16:43 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Nancy Pelosi is on the floor now basically mooning the nation with her insipid remarks.

Rule of Law

“Never heard of it...”

Nancy looking out across the House floor stated, “Today Holder, tomorrow who knows?”

Well, under Republican leadership you’ll have at least had to do something that looks as if it was illegal.

Under Democrat leadership, she may be right.


14 posted on 06/28/2012 12:41:00 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: neverdem

Returning a Thanks for the (plural) links.


15 posted on 06/28/2012 1:20:48 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: neverdem

..................The Mexican government also said Fast and Furious guns were found at 170 crime scenes in Mexico... ..............

Just like the two or three that were found next to Terry’s body.

It’s almost like the cartel know that these are walked guns, and believe that this bunch also have homing tag RFID’s planted within them like they found with Bush’s attempt to track the guns.

So once they use them, they know not to carry them.


16 posted on 06/28/2012 1:22:57 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: brownsfan
Does it matter? Not really, no. He could be fined or even jailed but that hasn't happened since 1934. It's important symbolically since a number of Democrats did go on record for the contempt citation and many more just didn't bother to support Holder when they could've.

If he was a Republican he'd be gone by Monday morning.

17 posted on 06/28/2012 2:20:43 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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