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Supporters Slow to Grasp Health Law’s Legal Risks
NY Times ^ | 6/24/12 | PETER BAKER

Posted on 06/24/2012 3:52:13 AM PDT by jimbo123

With the Supreme Court likely to render judgment on President Obama’s health care law this week, the White House and Congress find themselves in a position that many advocates of the legislation once considered almost unimaginable.

In passing the law two years ago, Democrats entertained little doubt that it was constitutional. The White House held a conference call to tell reporters that any legal challenge, as one Obama aide put it, “will eventually fail and shouldn’t be given too much credence in the press.”

Congress held no hearing on the plan’s constitutionality until nearly a year after it was signed into law. Representative Nancy Pelosi, then the House speaker, scoffed when a reporter asked what part of the Constitution empowered Congress to force Americans to buy health insurance. “Are you serious?” she asked with disdain. “Are you serious?”

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Adversaries said the law’s proponents had been too attentive to liberal academics who shaped public discussion. “There’s very little diversity in the legal academy among law professors,” said Randy E. Barnett, a Georgetown University law professor and a leading thinker behind the challenge. “So they’re in an echo chamber listening to people who agree with them.”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare
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The Rat Meltdown over ObamaCare's spectacular flop begins tomorrow. Bring some popcorn.
1 posted on 06/24/2012 3:52:26 AM PDT by jimbo123
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The White House held a conference call to tell reporters that any legal challenge, as one Obama aide put it, “will eventually fail and shouldn’t be given too much credence in the press.”

Read those words carefully a couple of times.

Sometimes, the truth of things just slips out.

2 posted on 06/24/2012 3:56:55 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Anna Wintour makes Teresa Heinz Kerry look like Dolly Parton.)
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To: jimbo123

What scares me is that Mr. Obama, Congresswoman Pelosi and Senator Reid could even be elected to high office in the first place. Name another world power that would even contemplate giving the nuclear codes to Barack Hussein Obama or put Nancy Pelosi third in line for the presidency, as she was from 2007 to 2011. I can’t think of one. German chancellor Angela Merkel is Winston Churchill, Margaret Thatcher and Albert Einstein all rolled into one in comparison to those three. Hell, Hubert Humphrey is starting to look good.


3 posted on 06/24/2012 4:00:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (In honor of my late father, GunnerySgt/Commo Chief, USMC 1943-65)
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This will be the first time that Osama Obama's ever been told "no" in his life.It will be a beautiful sight to behold.Of course,the second time he's told "no" will come in December of this year,when the Electors meet in official session.That will be even sweeter.
4 posted on 06/24/2012 4:03:19 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Bill Ayers Was *Not* "Just Some Guy In The Neighborhood")
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Even Reggie Love won’t be able to console the petulant Kenyan after he’s evicted from the White House in January.


5 posted on 06/24/2012 4:05:48 AM PDT by jimbo123
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Nancy Pelosi statd we had to pass the bill to find out what was in it.

Problem what was in it wasn’t even written into it.

The Bill grows at the pleasure of the Secretary of Health and Human services.She is given so much discretion,almost nothing is beyond her reach.Too much power for one bureaucrat.


6 posted on 06/24/2012 4:07:33 AM PDT by Venturer
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The Bill grows at the pleasure of the Secretary of Health and Human services.She is given so much discretion,almost nothing is beyond her reach.Too much power for one bureaucrat.

If the Court doesn't put a stop to this now, there will be lawsuits for 100 years over all the OTHER parts of the bill.

You are correct that the Bill delegates too much power to the Secretary. The IPAB is the most glaringly unconstitutional thing I have ever heard of - a law which pretends to remove from future Congresses the power to write laws?

I mean, if THAT'S not unconstitutional, nothing is.

7 posted on 06/24/2012 4:13:36 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Anna Wintour makes Teresa Heinz Kerry look like Dolly Parton.)
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FWIW
Intrade is a betting website. They have a very good record at predicting outcomes. They have ObamaCare very likely to be declared unconstitutional.

The US Supreme Court to rule individual mandate unconstitutional before midnight ET 31 Dec 2012 (78.2% Chance)

http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/

8 posted on 06/24/2012 4:35:57 AM PDT by preacher (Communism has only killed 100 million people: Let's give it another chance!)
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“There’s very little diversity in the legal academy among law professors,........So they’re in an echo chamber listening to people who agree with them.”

The same can be said of the leftist media.

9 posted on 06/24/2012 4:35:57 AM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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“The Republicans on the Hill were no better than the Democrats...

except ALL the Republicans in the House and Senate voted AGAINST the d@mn thing. Remember???? This is the Democrats baby. Pure and simple.

10 posted on 06/24/2012 4:39:29 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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The same can be said of the leftist media.

Funny how this was printed in the NY Times...
11 posted on 06/24/2012 4:40:19 AM PDT by jimbo123
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First think Obama does is ry to claw back everything he can by bureaucratic subterfuge, fund-embezzlement from other programs, and Executive Order.


12 posted on 06/24/2012 4:43:42 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers?" - St. Augustine of Hippo)
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But they underestimated the chances that conservative judges might, in this view, radically reinterpret or discard those precedents.

I heard this on CNN yesterday. Liberal talking point #1: ObamaCare was struck down because of radical conservative judges who are politicizing it.

13 posted on 06/24/2012 4:46:39 AM PDT by HarleyD
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When will we on FR treat the Mainstream Media as propaganda pure and simple?


14 posted on 06/24/2012 4:52:47 AM PDT by ardara
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To: preacher

Considering InTrade has Obama being re-elected at 53.9%, I think the credibility of that system is quite suspect .....


15 posted on 06/24/2012 4:53:53 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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I heard this on CNN yesterday. Liberal talking point #1: ObamaCare was struck down because of radical conservative judges who are politicizing it.

I see. Judging laws on the basis of constitutionality is now "politicizing" them. Mhm.

16 posted on 06/24/2012 4:53:53 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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When will we on FR treat the Mainstream Media as propaganda pure and simple?

Some of us have been since 1979. As an 17 year old watching the Iranian Hostage Crisis unfold on TV I can still remember the day I decided that the media was not to be believed when I watched them provide air cover day, after day, after day for Jimmy Carter.

I wrote the media off completely in 1980 when they tried telling the electorate that Ronald Reagan was a doddering old fool who upon entering office was going to push the button and start nuclear war with Russia.

With "news coverage" like that, who needs the media? I haven't considered them credible for decades already. The rest of you need to catch-up.

17 posted on 06/24/2012 4:58:29 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Pelosi...“We’re ironclad on the constitutionality of the bill,” she told CBS this month. “I think we’ll be 6-3 in our favor.”

To quote one of her fellow Representatives, Pelosi is mind-numbingly stupid.

18 posted on 06/24/2012 5:02:00 AM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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Liberal parasites don’t care about the Constitution. HHS Secretary Sebillius testified before congress that the contraceptive mandate on religious institutions did not even have a legal review prior to enactment.

These Marxists must go.


19 posted on 06/24/2012 5:09:41 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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What scares me is that Mr. Obama, Congresswoman Pelosi and Senator Reid could even be elected to high office in the first place.

Is there any way to PUNISH the district that has cursed the United States with Nazi Pu-lousy???

It's San Fran, I know, but I heard that GAP clothing is from there. That place is a CANCER on the country.

Definition of LOUSY. 1: infested with lice . 2. a: totally repulsive : contemptible b: miserably poor or inferior c: nauseous, ill felt lousy after ...

20 posted on 06/24/2012 5:14:29 AM PDT by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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