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Electric Vehicles Fall Drastically Short of Obama's 1 Million Goal
CBS News ^ | Saturday, June 2, 2012 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 06/02/2012 6:13:25 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: kristinn

What else could happen when you hand the keys to the US Treasury to a completely inexperienced yet arrogant egomaniac:

“I think I’m a better speech writer than my speech writers,” he reportedly told an aide in 2008. “I know more about policies on any particular issue than my policy directors. And I’ll tell you right now that I’m . . . a better political director than my political director.”

I’d be LMAO if it weren’t for that little fact that this is OUR money.

What a giant A-hole he is.


21 posted on 06/02/2012 6:54:48 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: kristinn

Last week I saw a TV program...maybe on Natl.Geo? about
the GM hybrid, and how GM mandated that all be turned in for destruction. It seemed so unbelievable that they could, or would, do that.

I have not had or needed a car since I left the USA in 2004, but from what I could see, the hybrid looked like a pretty decent idea, unlike the totally electric car which seems like a joke.

My question...What is wrong with the hybrid, as long as you can switch to gas when out of juice?
The owners seemed to love the car.
What am I missing here?


22 posted on 06/02/2012 6:55:04 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: kristinn

THE TULIPOMANIA: An Investing Bubble
http://www.thetulipomania.com/


23 posted on 06/02/2012 7:01:46 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: kristinn

CBS reported this?

Hunhh....


24 posted on 06/02/2012 7:22:25 PM PDT by hummingbird (Breitbart and Spartacus: here, there, everywhere.)
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To: quantim

Excellent video. Luckily, a new Five Year Plan is in the works to rescue these turds. Bob


25 posted on 06/02/2012 7:26:05 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("You were trying to chisel a perfect truth When the instrument broke in your hand." Al Stewart)
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To: kristinn

Obammy never was a very good businessman, come to think of it, he never was.. unless selling dope counts..


26 posted on 06/02/2012 7:37:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: AlexW

The main problem with hybrids is that the cars could never survive long enough to save its owner enough gas to compensate for the exorbitant price. Bob


27 posted on 06/02/2012 7:37:07 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("You were trying to chisel a perfect truth When the instrument broke in your hand." Al Stewart)
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To: kristinn

Who wants to buy a car called the “Karma” anyway-a new agey faddish left-wing hipster p.o.s?


28 posted on 06/02/2012 7:38:10 PM PDT by JSDude1
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“The main problem with hybrids is that the cars could never survive long enough to save its owner enough gas to compensate for the exorbitant price.”
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I never knew what the average cost or life was for a hybrid.
I guess you mean that they are not 100,000 mile cars.
Why did GM demand that all of them had to be returned to
them and be destroyed?

The program obviously had a pro hybrid slant, as all of the owners were soooo happy with them, and tried every way in the world to keep GM from taking them.
I do not know how GM could do that, unless there was some clause in the purchase contract which gave GM sole control over the car.


29 posted on 06/02/2012 8:02:04 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: kristinn

A dear friend had us out to his place for a bbq with his family. His stepson was a rather colorful character who babbled on about the virtues of solar panels and electric cars.

He changed the subject when I commented that most go about 40 miles on a charge while a gasoline powered subcompact goes about the same distance on a gallon of fuel.

Imagine how people would react if a gas pump took eight hours to pump one gallon of gasoline...


30 posted on 06/02/2012 8:07:59 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: AlexW

Last week I saw a TV program...maybe on Natl.Geo? about
the GM hybrid, and how GM mandated that all be turned in for destruction. It seemed so unbelievable that they could, or would, do that.


GM Hybrids were great, until they became self aware. Then they started sucking the souls out of unbaptized children.

GM’s PR department did an awesome job keeping it quiet.


31 posted on 06/02/2012 8:12:47 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: AlexW

There are many, many Toyota Prius hybrids with more than 100,000 miles on them. Getting 200,000 miles on them seems rare though.

Typical new price about $26K. Typical new price for a Corolla, by comparison, might be around $19,000.


32 posted on 06/02/2012 8:13:55 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Cicero
Oh, well. A billion here, and billion there, and pretty soon you tow them away on flatbeds and blame Republican obstructionists in congress.

What they need to do is spend another billion on electric tow trucks.

33 posted on 06/02/2012 8:30:44 PM PDT by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: kristinn

These people are ignorant about the (automobile, health care, electric generation, oil drilling, ...) industry and cause major failures when they illegally seize control of these sectors.


34 posted on 06/02/2012 8:43:05 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

“GM Hybrids were great, until they became self aware. Then they started sucking the souls out of unbaptized children.
GM’s PR department did an awesome job keeping it quiet.”
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God only knows what you are babbling about, and he is not talking.
Cocktail time does strange things to some people.


35 posted on 06/02/2012 9:15:47 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

That’s a weird, sickening story, Alex, typical of the bizarre Obama regime. I didn’t mean to come off as an expert, but we roughly calculated that at approx. 30mpg, it would take our Prius-owning friend decades to recoup the many extra thousands that he spent for that car over a comparable gas-powered one. Blessings, Bob


36 posted on 06/02/2012 9:16:20 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("You were trying to chisel a perfect truth When the instrument broke in your hand." Al Stewart)
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To: jjotto; AlexW; alstewartfan
There are many, many Toyota Prius hybrids with more than 100,000 miles on them. Getting 200,000 miles on them seems rare though.

There aren't too many cars with 200,000 miles on the odometer. They are mechanical things; as they wear down their value drops but the cost of repair goes up. At some point it is just not worth it.

Modern hybrids are capable of extreme longevity. Also Google gives me this link:

Vancouver canada has replaced 80% of their taxis with hybrids. There are still 2007 Prius still running which have over 200,000 miles logged in. One Prius has 600,000 miles logged in and one hybrid battery replacement

Hybrids have the following advantages over traditional cars:

For that you pay with money. Hybrids cost a bit more than standard cars. It's your call what to buy. A hybrid, especially one made in Japan, can last a very long time. You can treat it as an improved, high-tech version of a traditional gas car - simply because hybrids run on gas. All the energy comes from gasoline, which means that you have plenty of that energy in the tank, and it only takes a few minutes at any corner to replenish it.

Pure EVs share some of these advantages. However the additional cost of a gas-electric hybrid is lower than the cost of a pure EV. Those numbers that are floating around, from $40K to $100K, are insane. I don't know too many people who would be eager to mortgage their home and buy such a car. Hybrids like Prius are within the typical price range, both new and used. You can buy a used Gen. II Prius today for maybe $12K - $14K. This is within reach of many car buyers. (Of course there is no help for those who only look for $500 jalopies.)

One day, when we have much more capable batteries, a pure EV will be just as practical as a gas car (or a gas-electric hybrid) of today. That day is in the future. We can't even figure out how to charge that EV with a huge power (8 MW) that we casually achieve at a gas station. Today if you buy a pure EV (or an EV-like hybrid, like Volt) you get an overpriced golf cart - and you can't even drive it at the golf course.

37 posted on 06/02/2012 9:29:23 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: AlexW
Last week I saw a TV program...maybe on Natl.Geo? about
the GM hybrid, and how GM mandated that all be turned in for destruction. It seemed so unbelievable that they could, or would, do that.

I have not had or needed a car since I left the USA in 2004, but from what I could see, the hybrid looked like a pretty decent idea, unlike the totally electric car which seems like a joke.

My question...What is wrong with the hybrid, as long as you can switch to gas when out of juice?
The owners seemed to love the car.
What am I missing here?


I believe you are talking about the GM Impact from 1996 -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1

It was not a hybrid, it was an all-electric car.

38 posted on 06/02/2012 10:24:08 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: DBrow

He could have sold that million electric vehicles, if only he had offered up 30 to 45 thousand dollars in tax right-offs for each vehicle. $7,500.00? /s Pussy! LOL


39 posted on 06/02/2012 10:28:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent...)
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To: Greysard

“Hybrids have the following advantages over traditional cars:”

The REAL problem...

Once out of warranty, the ONLY place they can still be serviced is the dealer. There is a real reason 75% of Hybrid buyers will not buy another one. The cost of ownership doesn’t justify the added costs at anything less than $6-7 gas.

Battery replacement is the real issue, and costs around $2,200. Without it, all you are buying is a 1.5L-1.8L under-powered compact car.

Braking issues related to the computer control for battery recharging have become a HUGE issue, as well. Other Computer Control problems seem to become huge issues on the Prius after they go out of warranty as well.


40 posted on 06/02/2012 10:51:22 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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