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Bush v. Gore judge: Your evidence, Mr. Obama
WND ^ | May 31, 2012 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/31/2012 6:26:26 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

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To: BigGuy22; Seizethecarp
a federal judge would be compelled to accept a certified copy of a BC from HI,

This document is what is missing, has always been missing, and has been the driving force behind all these digital compilations the WH has tried to pass off as "copies of the BC on file."

Unfortunately, the courts in which the fakes have been presented, tend to accept them!

One more time for Rio Linda: What Team Obama presented was not a "Certified Copy of a Birth Certificate on file in with the HIDOH."

What Team Obama received from HI was a digitized collection ABSTRACTED from data on file at the HIDOH. It was an ABSTRACT. An abstract is not legally the complete record. Therefore it is not as legally demanding as a "Certified Copy of a BC on file." What Team Obama released was a copy of some, or all of that abstracted data, digitally reassembled by the WH to look like a Birth Certificate.

Think of a DIY Car Title. You take the VIN from one file, the make and model from another, the year and color from yet another, the former owners from somewhere else, the state seal from some dog license or other. Then using your trusty MAC, you cut and paste all of this on an official background scanned in from another document, or from safety paper. Hey-ho. From 15 yards away, looks a whole lot like a car title!

Try that at your DMV!

141 posted on 06/02/2012 10:44:27 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Kenny Bunk
"a federal judge would be compelled to accept a certified copy of a BC from HI,

This document is what is missing..."
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I think that's right, such a document has not been introduced in court, ever.

But Seizethecarp's point is also correct. If a certified hard-copy COLB were presented as evidence -- and that's the short form, the one that's supposedly not even good enough to get your kid into Little League -- it would be accepted under the Full Faith and Credit clause, no questions asked, not even a forensic examination ... unless there were sufficient competent, admissible evidence showing that there were legal grounds for demanding further inquiry.

And, as ALJ Masin said in Mario's NJ case, none of the evidence about the online PDF would ever be admitted into evidence by any judge unless Obama actually submitted the PDF as legal evidence. However, if, as expected, he entered a certified hard-copy, the PDF would be considered completely irrelevant and the certified copy would be admitted under FF&C.

That's why I've been making the point that the best way to cast doubt on the Hawaiian BCs is to present solid evidence showing that he was born somewhere else.
142 posted on 06/02/2012 11:17:15 AM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: Uncle Sham

Stolen as surely as November 22, ‘63 but by a different group. It’s almost apparent that the KGB may have installed an agent in the White House with the assistance of certain folks from Hyannisport and Chicago.


143 posted on 06/02/2012 10:41:47 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: BigGuy22

“That’s why I’ve been making the point that the best way to cast doubt on the Hawaiian BCs is to present solid evidence showing that he was born somewhere else.”

That’s a terrible point. That’s the same thing as asking to prove a negative.

Do you think a Kenyan birth certificate would fly? Even if you had THE REAL one, you wouldn’t have standing to present it in court.


144 posted on 06/07/2012 2:22:13 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: sten

sten has it exactly right. The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, as in effect in 1961 when Barack Obama II was born, required ten years residence in the United States, five of which were after the age of fourteen, for a U.S. citizen married to an alien to impart her (or his) U.S. citizenship to their foreign-born child.

U.S. citizen Anna (Dunham) Obama was 117 days short of the residence requirement for imparting her U.S. citizenship to her Kenyan-born child with non-U.S. citizen Barrack Hussain Obama, Sr..

The Coast Province General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya, Certificate of Live Birth, procured by Lucas Smith, has no apparent disqualification.

The purported State of Hawaii Department of Health COLB (Certification, a computer abstract) and long form Certificate of Birth are each littered with such obvious fakery that one doubts the competency of the likes of Jess Henig and Joe Miller. One can get better documents for $100 from José in Tijuana or Manuel in Juarez, with a Social Security Number that will pass e-Verify thrown in for a few dollars more.


145 posted on 06/29/2012 3:53:16 AM PDT by MinutemanCDC_SC (While we yet have self-determination, remove the usurper from office.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

You wrote, “Just what is a reasonable fellow to do?”

Get a sturdy old barge, stock it with enough food and water for years, gather one’s immediate family, and embark onto the Pacific to search for some enchanted uncharted island where Western (Christian) Civilization can be nurtured and maintained until the Lord returns?

It worked for Noah... and I don’t know what else to do.
For years, praying has certainly been a bust.


146 posted on 06/29/2012 3:53:37 AM PDT by MinutemanCDC_SC (While we yet have self-determination, remove the usurper from office.)
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To: Seizethecarp; LucyT; melancholy; null and void; Brown Deer; Red Steel
The important thing to remember is that Obama claims Hawaiian Birth.

Hawaii having been an independent Kingdom in ye olden days, this endows those claiming to have been born there with mystical powers over the finite universe, which Obama has now demonstrated to my ample satisfaction.

Chief Justice Roberts explained this all to me before I blew town. It's the Kahuna Klause of the Konstitution. This will all be made clear to you during La Presidencia of Marco Rubio, (VP Bobby Jindal). Except for vicious racism, both of these worthy gentlemen could have been potentially born in Hawaii, which ipso facto, QED, makes them Natural Born Citizens.

Me? I shall be delivering pizza in Townsville, Australia in my Holden van.

147 posted on 06/29/2012 9:17:49 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and FU Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: MinutemanCDC_SC
For years, praying has certainly been a bust.

Well then, now we could try fasting. BTW, I tire of your negativity. If a gay Indonesian cannot become POTUS, what then is the point of the United States of America?

In the meantime, if you want the best pizza in Townsville Australia delivered to your door, please call.

148 posted on 06/30/2012 7:43:51 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and FU Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Me? I shall be delivering pizza in Townsville, Australia

I hope you can learn the Australian language...

149 posted on 06/30/2012 9:39:07 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1257 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: null and void; butterdezillion
Nuts ping?

Here's a report on the Obammie NBC case in Florida on June 18, 2012.

All I can find on the Florida 6/18/2012 hearing - no news stories and the article itself doesn't seem to hint when a ruling might occur, just that the parties can submit more arguments ... Sigh.

150 posted on 06/30/2012 11:57:37 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Tunehead54; null and void; butterdezillion
Sorry - I did find this ... Monday, June 18, 2012, 9 a.m. hearing on Obama ballot challenge . still no national news ... the 18th was my dad's birthday who died 10 years ago, I guess I wasn't paying attention.
151 posted on 06/30/2012 12:34:55 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: null and void
......can learn the Australian language...

Haad fer a septic tank like meself but if you'll shout me a few tyubes of the frosty amba fluid, I'll tike up the strine and dooya faya dinkum demo mite just afta tucka?

On the whole, I would rather study "Strine" then "Oprime número dos." Now waddaya want on that peeza, Mite?

152 posted on 07/01/2012 4:15:09 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and FU Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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