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Bush v. Gore judge: Your evidence, Mr. Obama
WND ^ | May 31, 2012 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/31/2012 6:26:26 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

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To: OafOfOffice

Then why was it used on a U.S. passport application form??


101 posted on 06/01/2012 8:53:24 AM PDT by edge919
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To: sten
want real news? read free republic. nuf said

That used to be true.

102 posted on 06/01/2012 8:57:48 AM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: edge919

If you look at the passport article it states, place names and state relationship.

She placed Obama and soebarkah (son of) Lolo Soetoro.

Paraphrasing because I can’t remember the exact wording. It is here but I can’t get into the website right now for some reason. webofdeception.com/obamamotherpassports.html


103 posted on 06/01/2012 9:30:36 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: OafOfOffice
She placed Obama and soebarkah (son of) Lolo Soetoro.

Maybe you're not understanding ... this was a U.S. passport application, not an Indonesian passport application. The person(s) processing it wouldn't likely speak Indonesian. So again, why would she do this on a U.S. passport application if it's not part of how he was being formally identified??

104 posted on 06/01/2012 9:33:55 AM PDT by edge919
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
And then the was the eligibility case in Georgia that went like this: http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/2012/02/04/obama-eligibility-and-a-decision-of-tyranny/
105 posted on 06/01/2012 9:59:21 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Red Steel
Remember what happened in the Georgia case?:

The attorney for the defendant, Obama, states he will not participate or provide subpoenaed material.

The Georgia Secretary of State says such action will be at the attorney’s and his client’s peril.

The hearing proceeds with the only evidence and testimony presented being against the defendant.

One week later, the Judge finds in favor of the defendant.

Don't get your hopes up.

106 posted on 06/01/2012 10:02:34 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Seizethecarp
It appears that a court ruling on the definition could been coming, Klayman said.

So he's going after the two parent rule. The sticking point in the definition may be the naturalization period and the status of children born in the country during naturalization because it affects both Rubio and Jindal who were born here during their parents' naturalization. Obama's father on the other hand never naturalized and was always a foreign national.

107 posted on 06/01/2012 10:04:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I don’t. I’m very well aware of the track record of the lack of conviction from the US courts.


108 posted on 06/01/2012 10:28:53 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: GregNH
Yikes, isn't that a legal problem?

Could be... he's a flaming OBot off his medication, and is fearing what Arpaio has on Obama who will expose him around mid-June. So village OBot, Foggy of Fogbow.com, is feeling that his delusional world could be coming to an end.

109 posted on 06/01/2012 11:07:04 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
delusional world could be coming to an end

I felt very alone back in 08 when I realized that Zero was not an NBC. In October of 08 I was hopeful that Congress would do it's duty. See link in comment here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2890122/posts?page=93#93

As time has passed we have been thinking it will break open any day now, and we have been disappointing. But I think we are at a point now where it is simply getting too big to ignore. Millions of Americans now know he is a fraud. Congress may have to deal with this before the election.

110 posted on 06/01/2012 11:59:10 AM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: Seizethecarp

“Absent legal discovery of evidence challenging authenticity of either of Barry’s BCs, under the full faith and credit clause, a federal judge would be compelled to accept a certified copy of a BC from HI, either COLB or LFBC...”
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I think that’s correct. But since Hawaiian officials have already said that the data on the COLB and on the LFBC match what’s in their records, it seems to me that the best way to counter that is by coming up with admissible evidence that Pres. Obama was born somewhere other than Hawaii.

I wonder, is the Arpaio posse working on that?


111 posted on 06/01/2012 12:31:34 PM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: edge919

Where is this passport? I have not seen it.


112 posted on 06/01/2012 1:18:29 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: edge919

This is the only one I know of. http://is.gd/NGf7Wd

It reads, amend to include or (exclude) children. She excluded son (Soebarkah) She was not applying for her sons passport renewal. Just hers.

Soe Bar Kah means literally Who is this, but the son of Soetoro. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2728155/posts


113 posted on 06/01/2012 1:31:07 PM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: BigGuy22
“I think that’s correct. But since Hawaiian officials have already said that the data on the COLB and on the LFBC match what’s in their records, it seems to me that the best way to counter that is by coming up with admissible evidence that Pres. Obama was born somewhere other than Hawaii.

“I wonder, is the Arpaio posse working on that?”

Arpaio and Zullo have alluded to “traveling” to numerous locations perhaps including foreign locations in pursuit of evidence.

The problem with foreign birth evidence, such as Kenyan evidence, is that under the rules of evidence a foreign BC must be authenticated by the authorities of the country of birth and testimony of Kenyan officials would be very problematic either way given the traditions of corruption and jockying between pro-Luo and anti-Luo factions.

114 posted on 06/01/2012 2:11:06 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Red Steel
Could be... he's a flaming OBot off his medication, and is fearing what Arpaio has on Obama who will expose him around mid-June. So village OBot, Foggy of Fogbow.com, is feeling that his delusional world could be coming to an end.

Or that his masters will be displeased with him for failing to stop the rebels.


115 posted on 06/01/2012 2:25:37 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Seizethecarp
The problem with foreign birth evidence, such as Kenyan evidence, is that under the rules of evidence a foreign BC must be authenticated by the authorities of the country of birth and testimony of Kenyan officials would be very problematic either way given the traditions of corruption and jockying between pro-Luo and anti-Luo factions.

But not so much the Canadians, which is the direction I lean.

116 posted on 06/01/2012 2:28:31 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Red Steel

I’ve seen so many of these subpoenae which are just forms printed out by Taitz. Do we know if the judge actually signed off on this?


117 posted on 06/01/2012 3:10:13 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: Plummz

Likely not.


118 posted on 06/01/2012 3:25:43 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Seizethecarp

“...a foreign BC must be authenticated by the authorities...”
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I agree, and obtaining a valid Kenyan BC might be something that occurs relatively late in the process.

Still, as far as I’m concerned, there are plenty of details yet to be established. I mean, why the assumption that a Kenyan birth must have taken place in Mombassa? Is there reason to believe that, or is it just something someone said that caught on? What about the means of travel in 1961? Can’t any part of the journey be reconstructed?

I know these are tricky details to uncover, but it’s been four years and I’m not aware of any serious effort to do it. If Trump is really interested in putting up money to help Romney, it would be relatively cheap to hire a couple of hot-shot investigators who might finally get somewhere.


119 posted on 06/01/2012 3:31:16 PM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: OafOfOffice

If you are suggesting that Soebarkah was not a name but some sort of comment on the form, you are confused. Soebarkah was the Indonesian name for the child Obama. It is common in Indonesia to have a single name.


120 posted on 06/01/2012 5:00:22 PM PDT by dinodino
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