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Zoey Ripple, CU grad shot in Boulder home intrusion, 'disappointed' charges will be filed
dailycamera.com ^ | 05/25/2012 | Mitchell Byars

Posted on 05/27/2012 7:39:12 PM PDT by grundle

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To: grundle

If this woman continues to drink until severely polluted (0.2!!!) and keeps wandering into strange homes, getting shot will be the least bad thing that will happen to her!


61 posted on 05/28/2012 5:25:14 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: reardensteel; Uncle Chip; Nifster
Agree! Nobody should shoot without knowing who/what they are shooting at. Could have been a 10 year old for all they knew!

It “could have been?” It could have been a Tibetan monk. It could have been Mary Queen of Scotts.

At 3:30 AM, if a strange person enters my bedroom, and all members of my household are accounted for, the invader is in mortal danger.

Incidentally, young men don't have the market cornered on sociopathic behavior. Just because she's cute, she's not necessarily harmless.

62 posted on 05/28/2012 5:32:48 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: GladesGuru
Google cougar, Boulder, CO.

Only with safe search on.

When the mountain lions learn to turn door knobs we're going to need to do more than lock our doors.

63 posted on 05/28/2012 6:02:13 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TalBlack
Somewhere in the dim recesses of my memory I recall someone instructing me to "positively identify your target before firing." This may not apply to Kansas hunters.
64 posted on 05/28/2012 6:27:50 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Isabel C.
In looking through your posting history on FR, your posts seem to be of two types.

1.) Correcting users errant spelling.
2.) Tut-tuting what you see as juvenile humor.

I'd suggest either finding something worthwhile to say or go elsewhere.

65 posted on 05/28/2012 6:34:55 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse; Nifster
At 3:30 AM, if a strange person enters my bedroom, and all members of my household are accounted for

If -- but how did he know if it was a strange person if he shot in the dark at a shadow withoout identifying the person. Gunowners are supposed to be responsible people not scaredy cats.

It “could have been?” It could have been a Tibetan monk. It could have been Mary Queen of Scotts.

So would you have shot the Tibetan monk???

Let's say that he turned the light on and saw that it was an unarmed little drunk coed, would you still say that he is justified in shooting her?

66 posted on 05/28/2012 6:46:16 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: grundle
is listed for sale at $2.75 million, is at the western end of Boulder, where College Avenue dead-ends into the foothills.

The problem now is that the couple have to declare there was a shooting in the house and it will be harder for them to get it sold.

Stupid girl is lucky she only got hit in the hip and that she's still alive....

67 posted on 05/28/2012 6:53:37 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (I just try to stay out of the fray...)
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To: Uncle Chip; Rides_A_Red_Horse; Nifster

In the dark, I can figure out if it is a family member. Anyone else in my bedroom at 3AM gets shot. Getting up and turning on the lights would give the INTRUDER a chance to shoot me.

As I read it, the couple lives alone. Someone was in their bedroom at 3AM and didn’t stop when warned. That was one more warning than I would give. My bedroom is 13 x 12 - I don’t have a lot of room to fall back and ask for a drivers license...


68 posted on 05/28/2012 7:05:34 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: TigersEye
Somewhere in the dim recesses of my memory I recall someone instructing me to "positively identify your target before firing." This may not apply to Kansas hunters.

This looks like a couple old enough to be empty nesters so only the two of them in the house.

Besides, they called out to the intruder and yelled that they had a gun. I figure they wouldn't have shot if she had responded to them.

I know if I'm scared, warned the intruder and the only answer I got was the continued approaching footsteps, I'd shoot.

If the intruder had been a 6'3" muscular, male, habitual criminal, we'd be saying how stupid the homeowners were for playing 20 questions before protecting themselves.

69 posted on 05/28/2012 7:12:09 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (I just try to stay out of the fray...)
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To: Mycroft Holmes

I agree with you. Always check your target, always. If that means investing in a taclight for a rail on a pistol, fine. Just ensure you know for sure who/what you’re shooting. You don’t get to take it back.


70 posted on 05/28/2012 7:17:30 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: CAluvdubya
Yes, I said much the same thing on another thread. She should have responded and she shouldn't have moved. It would have helped if she had turned her flash light on herself.

That said it's still one of the first rules of firearms handling to positively identify your target before firing. Ironically if a cop had shot someone in similar circumstances he would most likely be working a desk and internal affairs would be giving him an anal probe over the whole thing.

There was stupidity to go around here. How does a 21 yr old recent grad mistake a very unique $2.75 million home for whatever cracker box she most likely lives in? Why would a pair of empty nesters in an urban area like Boulder leave their doors unlocked? Boulder is about a 40 minute drive from the furthest reaches of the Denver metro area and Boulder itself long ago ceased to be bucolic little university town.

71 posted on 05/28/2012 7:41:43 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Positively identifying your target does NOT mean getting a name & home address. It means knowing what you are shooting, and hitting it. In this case, an INTRUDER.

If a cop shot someone in his bedroom at 3 AM, no one would do squat to the cop. In most states, it is perfectly legal to shoot a stranger in your bedroom in the middle of the night. Odds are, they aren’t there on a home buyer’s inspection...

You don’t have to wait until someone slices your face or rapes your wife before shooting them. Someone is your yard is a different matter...but in your bedroom?


72 posted on 05/28/2012 7:55:13 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: reardensteel
What you assume is a 10 yo child might in reality be a 20 yo midget ready to blow your brains out.
73 posted on 05/28/2012 7:59:40 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Mr Rogers

My account is restricted and each of my replies has to be reviewed before it’s posted. I don’t want to waste replies.


74 posted on 05/28/2012 8:17:09 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Uncle Chip; reardensteel
So let me get this straight. They just shot her in the dark without knowing who it was or if the person meant harm???

He knew that the only other person authorized to be in the house was in bed with him. Turning on the lights may have been useful for identifying the intruder, but would also illuminate THEM to a potentially-armed intruder. In their situation, I would see no need to give away an advantage to an intruder.

75 posted on 05/28/2012 8:52:55 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: grundle

My doors are always locked, an alarm is always on, I am a very light sleeper and have great night vision. Someone who is in my house without an invitation is facing very serious issues. I prefer my first round to be Number 4 buck with 41 pellets, as I am looking for many first round hits, prior to my follow up shot of 00 Buck with 15 pellets going down range to finish the job. The police can show up later for body identification - not my problem. Light is not the friend of the defender.


76 posted on 05/28/2012 9:03:03 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: TalBlack
Yes, and if you shoot blindly at a noise you could give away your position and draw fire. Moreover blasting away in the dark endangers other occupants of the building as well as neighbors.

I don't know about you, but my bedroom is illuminated enough at night (between my clock and a night-light I have so I don't bang into furniture getting to the bathroom) that I can make out the shape of an intruder well enough to accurately aim, even if not illuminated enough to see who it is.

In the darkness, they shouted to warn the intruder to leave and that they had a gun, but Ripple continued walking through the bedroom, and Justice fired one shot, police said.

Upon being challenged, this was the opportunity for an intruder to freeze and declare peaceful intentions. She apparently did not. Her loss.

77 posted on 05/28/2012 9:06:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Isabel C.
I highly doubt that she would be even the least bit interested in your "offer".

She should be glad that she was not given an offer she could not refuse.

She was a pretty young woman, in a house, in the middle of the night, and nobody in the world knew she was there, and nobody in the world would know what happened to her if she disappeared that night.

78 posted on 05/28/2012 9:22:47 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: TigersEye
Somewhere in the dim recesses of my memory I recall someone instructing me to "positively identify your target before firing."

You got that right.

79 posted on 05/28/2012 9:27:58 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: PapaBear3625

“..that I can make out the shape of an intruder well enough to accurately aim, even if not illuminated enough to see who it is.”

Frankly I can’t recall a bedroom of mine that WASN’T illuminated enough to allow me to spot the size of anyone moving around in there.


80 posted on 05/28/2012 10:08:56 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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