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Hey, Californians: Go to Tahoe!
American Thinker ^ | 05/25/2012 | Tom Thurlow

Posted on 05/25/2012 5:45:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A few weeks ago my family and I went to Lake Tahoe for a little snow skiing. We had a great time, except for some obvious "grade deflation" that occurred with the ski slopes. I skied some intermediate slopes and fell many times, indicating that the slopes were probably really expert skiers. Either that, or the laughably improbable alternative that I am not in as good shape as I was only a few years ago, when I could ski down expert slopes without any problems.

But during the trip, we drove across the state border from California to Nevada and back several times. Except for the different-colored license plates and the fact that smoking is still allowed in restaurants in Nevada, we would have never known the difference between the two states we drove through. The roads were just the same, the restaurants were just as overpriced, and the scenery was the same...and the ski slopes were just as incorrectly graded. Yet the times when we drove from California into Nevada, we drove from the highest-taxed state to one of the lowest-taxed states.

In fact, California currently has the third-highest state income tax in the nation, and the nation's highest sales and gasoline taxes. Meanwhile, Nevada has no state income tax, a much lower gasoline tax, and a lower state sales tax of 6.85%.

With such a difference in state taxes, you would think that leaving California and entering Nevada would at least entail a huge change in scenery, like gold-plated roads with pampered, uniformly wealthy people on the California side and huddled masses living underneath highway overpasses, asking for handouts on the Nevada side. But no, things were pretty much the same.

So what gives? What accounts for the difference in taxes and indifference in the states?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: california; nevada; tahoe; taxes
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1 posted on 05/25/2012 5:45:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The number of highly paid state employees. That’s the difference. The size of State government.

Can you imagine the kicking and screaming and caterwauling that would be going on if CA were really to cut the size of its overblown government?


2 posted on 05/25/2012 5:58:21 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Can you imagine the kicking and screaming and caterwauling that would be going on if CA were really to cut the size of its overblown government?

Yep... imagine if Jerry Brown were to go all Scott Walker on the public "service" unions.

3 posted on 05/25/2012 6:03:53 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

—haven’t done this for a while—I think one has been eliminated-—
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4 posted on 05/25/2012 6:05:09 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: SeekAndFind
The California I grew up in would give a big middle finger to Brown's tax increases.

But now I'm worried the ratio of producers to takers has finally been tipped, and the takers will swing the vote.

5 posted on 05/25/2012 6:05:35 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind

One difference when you cross the state line is in the PRIVATE property:

Crossing into Nevada on the north shore of the lake is notable because you go from run-down (but still expensive) beach and ski cabins, to spectacular mansions.

On the south shore, you go from T-shirt shops and sandwich shacks to glittering hotel/casinos.


6 posted on 05/25/2012 6:20:16 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: rellimpank

Wow, what an awesome list I must save, thanks. They should form an agency to review these and see if any can be eliminated. (/sarc)


7 posted on 05/25/2012 6:38:26 AM PDT by wrencher
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To: wrencher

—here’s a better link-—

http://patriotpost.us/reference/california-agencies


8 posted on 05/25/2012 7:13:27 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank

Wow! Have you ever counted all those agencies? If Brown canceled all of them, I wonder what would happen to the unemployment rate?


9 posted on 05/25/2012 7:22:53 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: rellimpank

California Electricity Oversight Board

“Why are you all sitting on those tall stools looking at a copper wire on the floor?”

“We’re the California Electricity Oversight Board.”

“You’re all Jerry Brown’s cousins, aren’t you?”


10 posted on 05/25/2012 7:36:16 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Baynative

ping!


11 posted on 05/25/2012 7:57:29 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: JDoutrider
Another proposal facing California voters this fall will be the "Molly Munger's California State Income Tax Increase to Support Education Initiative,"--

How dumb does one have to be to keep falling for this education rubbish. I can still remember the campaign about how the lottery would turn things around.

12 posted on 05/25/2012 8:13:31 AM PDT by Baynative (REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
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To: Beelzebubba; JDoutrider
The author wasn't there long enough to pick up on the point you made.

On both north and south shores the "rental ghettos" are on the California side where government benefits from unemployment to disability are plentiful for both seasonal workers and non-productive citizen voters. On the other hand, Nevada has the advantage of lower taxes in both sales and property resulting in more property ownership and less money for Carson City to throw around to lure dregs to their communities.

13 posted on 05/25/2012 8:22:24 AM PDT by Baynative (REMEMBER: Without America there is no free world!)
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To: rellimpank

Now that’s organized crime and people say the Mafia is dead,she’s a no dead.


14 posted on 05/25/2012 8:57:58 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind

Nevada is taking lessons. I just bought an external hard drive in Nevada and was hit with 8.1% sales tax. A gallon jug of Gallo wine just went up $1 due to an increase in “sin” taxes.


15 posted on 05/25/2012 9:14:09 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The last time I went to CA, a couple of years ago, my son and I drove from Texas. We noticed that the underpasses in TX, AZ, and NM were all decorated somehow, usually with a theme related to the town where they were located.

Then we entered CA, and it looked run down—no decorated underpasses—buildings that, in some cases, looked like they had never been renovated since I saw them as a small child, in the 60s.

I remember growing up in the Golden State. It’s tarnished, now.


16 posted on 05/25/2012 9:26:36 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s all tahoe needs. The same idiots who voted in the likes of jerry brown and schwarzenegger living among them, having a say and vote in their affairs.


17 posted on 05/25/2012 9:44:58 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Baynative

We sure had some fun back forty plus years ago in those “ghettos” didn’t we!

LOL!


18 posted on 05/25/2012 10:09:16 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: skeeter

“But now I’m worried the ratio of producers to takers has finally been tipped, and the takers will swing the vote.”

Which I believe will reinforce the departure of more makers.


19 posted on 05/25/2012 10:21:30 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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