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Dharun Ravi sentenced to jail in Rutgers webcam case
LA Times ^ | May 21, 2012 | Tina Susman

Posted on 05/21/2012 12:30:04 PM PDT by JimWayne

A judge Monday sentenced a former Rutgers University student, Dharun Ravi, to 30 days in jail for spying on his gay roommate who later committed suicide, rejecting defense arguments that he did not deserve time behind bars but disappointing prosecutors who portrayed him as insensitive and driven by anti-gay bias.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: miscarriageofjustice; rutgers

1 posted on 05/21/2012 12:30:11 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: JimWayne

it’s real simple. Doesn’t matter if you are gay, straight or asexual ... do not secretly record someone, then broadcast the person’s actions via webcam over the internet.

Doesn’t matter if it’s sexual, doing laundry, using the shower, cooking breakfast, or any other biological function.

No one has the right to spy on a person ( one who has the reasonable presumption of privacy) and broadcast that person’s activities on the internet.

I knew that being a “Peeping Tom” was wrong when I was in 5th grade, and I’m not a super-genius.


2 posted on 05/21/2012 12:40:02 PM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: JimWayne

30 days? That’s mockery, not a sentence for precipitating suicide.


3 posted on 05/21/2012 12:40:02 PM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

It sure doesn’t look like the spy was bent on causing the spyee’s suicide. This got the slap on the wrist it deserved... nothing more.


4 posted on 05/21/2012 12:42:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Talisker

Let’s hope those 30 days are for him ... memorable.


5 posted on 05/21/2012 12:43:16 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: JimWayne

Would the dude have killed himself if he was recorded having sex with a woman? I guess he couldn’t live with the shame.


6 posted on 05/21/2012 12:43:23 PM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: Talisker

That’s mockery, not a sentence for precipitating suicide.

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Say what?? Clementi’s suicide had nothing to do with what Ravi did.

And ask yourself this question. Would this secret taping even come up - much less gone to trial - if Ravi taped his roomie have sex with a girl?

The answer - of course is Hell No.


7 posted on 05/21/2012 12:46:49 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: JimWayne
“I do not believe he hated Tyler Clementi … but I do believe he acted out of colossal insensitivity,” [Judge} Berman said.

This would seem to counter the jury's findings - as "colossal insensitivity" is not bias, hatred or animus. This stupid case should never have been about bias, but about invasion of privacy, surreptitious video - for which I would have sentenced Ravi to more time.

There's another case on trial in NJ with bias charges, and second degree murder - where a man shot the person he'd just had sex with because he figured out that person was a transsexual. It's not like he went looking for a transsexual to hate and kill - he was horrified and enraged that he'd been tricked into having sex with "a dude."

8 posted on 05/21/2012 12:52:24 PM PDT by heartwood
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Ridiculous. Ravi was never charged with Clementi’s suicide. Clementi had been taking calm, reasonable steps in reporting Ravi, and nothing in his various communications with the school or friends or an online gay support group suggested despair.

Then all of a sudden he threw himself off a bridge - the trigger could have been gloom induced by drugs or alcohol, a fight with his boyfriend, brooding over his mother’s difficulty in accepting his homosexuality, the desire to be a martyr for the gay cause...

No toxicology reports at the trial, no suicide note at the trial.


9 posted on 05/21/2012 1:00:06 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: Hodar

It’s real simple. Don’t have sex or other amorous activity in a shared dorm room unless you have the explicit approval of that roommate.


10 posted on 05/21/2012 1:01:51 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Hodar

It’s real simple. Don’t have sex or other amorous activity in a shared dorm room unless you have the explicit approval of that roommate.


11 posted on 05/21/2012 1:02:05 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Talisker

Self murder was the decision of the deceased, blaming someone is more cowardice.


12 posted on 05/21/2012 1:05:59 PM PDT by alarm rider (I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
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To: heartwood

And, apparently Ravi, didn’t like his roommate bringing home strange guys for sex, and Ravi didn’t “broadcast” the thing. He showed it to one other person, and I think it may have been after the fact. I think there is a lot of misinformation about this story.

I don’t usually go to Adam Carolla for clarification of news stories, but I think he may have gotten this right: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-Ith5BorEU

(Warning - graphic-Carolla-speak.


13 posted on 05/21/2012 1:44:13 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: BO Stinkss; Responsibility2nd; Talisker; heartwood

There was no recording. He opened the camera, realized what he was looking at, and quickly shut it down, all within 5 seconds. Clearly, what he saw was unexpected and the act of shutting it down proves it was unintentional as well.

On the privacy angle, remember it was his room too. So I do not see how it is a case of violation of privacy. He should be entitled to look into his own room. If the roommate wanted privacy, he should have specifically entered into an agreement that he would be given privacy during the specified hours.


14 posted on 05/21/2012 2:03:48 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: heartwood

I had no idea there were laws against colossal insensitivity.
The left wing nazi’s love this sh*t don’t they? Sentencing people to jail for insensitivity. Asking jurors to read what a person THINKS/thought crime, and not for the act itself which was nothing more than a silly prank.
Invasion of privacy in a shared dorm room is a big joke.
That’s what so called bullying laws do; they try and punish someone for insensitivity that may or may not have lead to someone else pain or suicide.


15 posted on 05/21/2012 2:11:09 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: BO Stinkss
If it was a young woman being filmed, she may have committed suicide. A young man with a pretty woman would probably get high fives if his performance was good...

In college, it was found out that a popular female classmate was once featured in a particularly gross ‘adult film’.

For about a week, it was screened at every single frathouse and there were parties ‘dedicated’ around it. Pretty much everyone that knew her found out and it is still her claim to fame to this day. Last I heard she attempted suicide. Then changed her look and relocated far away.

It ruined her entire social life and she agreed to be filmed. If you were filmed without your knowledge and everyone saw it, it would be completely devastating.

16 posted on 05/22/2012 5:40:37 AM PDT by varyouga
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