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Will U.S. Sovereignty Be LOST At Sea? Obama Signs U.N. Treaty That Redistributes Drilling Revenues
Forbes ^ | may 20, 2012 | Forbes OpEd

Posted on 05/20/2012 10:18:50 AM PDT by Innovative

A proposed Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST), which has been signed by President Obama but not yet ratified by Congress, will subordinate U.S. naval and drilling operations beyond 200 miles of our coast to a newly established U.N. bureaucracy. If approved, it will grant a Kingston, Jamaica-based International Seabed Authority (ISA) the power to regulate deep-sea oil exploration, seabed mining, and fishing rights.

As part of the deal, as much as 7% of U.S. government revenue that is collected from oil and gas companies operating off our coast will be forked over to ISA for redistribution to poorer, landlocked countries. This apparently is in penance for America's audacity in perpetuating prosperity yielded by our Industrial Revolution.

Like the U.N.'s Kyoto Protocol debacle that preceded it, this most recent LOST cause embodies the progressive ideal of subordinating the sovereignty of nation states to authoritarian dictates of a world body. The U.S. would have one vote out of 160 regarding where the money would go, and be obligated to hand over offshore drilling technology to any nation that wants it... for free.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


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This is what you get with Obama -- can we afford four more years?!

Obama is actively working for the destruction of the US and our sovereignty.

1 posted on 05/20/2012 10:19:02 AM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Highly recommend: READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE and save it.


2 posted on 05/20/2012 10:20:03 AM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: Innovative; AuntB; Liz; ExTexasRedhead

Can this nation survive a second Obama term? I’m becoming more doubtful.


3 posted on 05/20/2012 10:21:07 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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To: Innovative

He can sign all the treaties he wants, still needs 67 Senate votes.


4 posted on 05/20/2012 10:21:52 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

Nobody believed he would be able to pass Obamacare either.

BUT don’t forget that Congress DID pass Obamacare — what makes you think he won’t bribe and blackmail enough Senators/House reps that he can’t get this passed?


5 posted on 05/20/2012 10:24:07 AM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: Innovative

Damn the Constitutional crisis ... INVESTIGATE AND REMOVE THIS ILLEGAL USURPER !!!!


6 posted on 05/20/2012 10:27:24 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Can we survive Obama’s first term?


7 posted on 05/20/2012 10:29:51 AM PDT by Mark17 (California, where English is a foreign language)
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To: knarf

It will be much simpler to simply NOT reelect him, and the ONLY way to do that is for every sensible person to run, not walk to the polls and vote for Romney to defeat Obama.

When your house is burning down, are you going to stop the firefighters from saving it, because you have a personal dislike of the particular firefighter who is trying to save your house?


8 posted on 05/20/2012 10:31:29 AM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: Innovative

Obama acan sign any thing he wishes but it’s worthless without the Senate’s consent.


9 posted on 05/20/2012 10:32:06 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Men who will not suffer to self govern, will suffer under the governance of lesser men.)
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To: Innovative

When your house is burning down, are you going to stop the firefighters from saving it, because you have a personal dislike of the particular firefighter who is trying to save your house?


That’s exactly right.


10 posted on 05/20/2012 10:34:46 AM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: AU72; Innovative
He can sign all the treaties he wants, still needs 67 Senate votes.

And Obama's favorite Republican backer of LOST got defeated in his primary. I doubt his example will be lost among Republican incumbents who still face primaries this year or face reelection in 2014.

11 posted on 05/20/2012 10:36:06 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Mark17

We’ve down to the last six months of Obama’s first term. I think we can hang in there that long, bad as things are.


12 posted on 05/20/2012 10:38:03 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama and Company lied, the American economy died)
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To: Innovative
Everyone should read this article. Even us supported this treaty; scary.
Goes to show again that we need to be involved politically; especially on the all the races below President.

We can block some of this garbage if we elect the right people in the House and Senate.

Anyone thinking of sitting out the election this fall because of Romney; quit complaining and get to work for political candidates down the ticket.
Stay out of the POTUS race if you want; but work hard for other candidates.

13 posted on 05/20/2012 10:39:15 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (We are the 53%. 47% of Americans pay no taxes; end the free ride...)
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To: Innovative
"...because you have a personal dislike of the particular firefighter arsonist who is trying to save your house?"
14 posted on 05/20/2012 10:40:32 AM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: Innovative
"Anything 0 can do, I can do better, Anything 0 can do, I can do swell!" Mittens Keep settin' `em up, I'll keep knockin' `em down.
15 posted on 05/20/2012 10:43:20 AM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: Innovative
There is no way this will be ratified by Congress.

This is plain and simple pandering to the eco left-wing base.

No doubt some rich San Francisco commie with deep pockets ordered Obama to sign this in exchange for campaign cash.

16 posted on 05/20/2012 10:44:50 AM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

Just remember, nobody thought Obamacare will pass Congress either...


17 posted on 05/20/2012 10:52:21 AM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: Innovative

Good point. Or put it another way, the doctor that saved your life may not have a good bedside manner, but still he did his job. We can’t afford four more years of this.


18 posted on 05/20/2012 10:53:09 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: RedMonqey
Obama acan sign any thing he wishes but it’s worthless without the Senate’s consent.

That's incorrect. There is a certain binding legality on a signed treaty regardless of its ratification, that constrains the actions of the signing executive authority -- and future congressional legislation.

That is why Bill Clinton made a cottage industry of signing left-wing U.N. bullcrap "treaties" and "conventions" that would never see the light of day in the Senate. He did it to impede the U.S. and show "good faith" like a good liberal dipshit.

The next real Republican president needs to submit all these unratified treaties and conventions to the Senate for ratification. The Senate then needs to stomp on them, hard, and the president then needs to denounce and abrogate the treaty -- then the U.S. will be completely free of said treaties.

Including, if it comes down to it, the U.N. Treaty.

Of course, R-Money, the current RiNO/Yacht Club/NWO candidate, wouldn't touch any of those NWO holy grails -- hell, he would probably sign some more of 'em if Bribeme Annan and Bunko Moon pushed them Mitty's way.

19 posted on 05/20/2012 10:53:38 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: what's up; All

Senate gears up for Law of the Sea Treaty push

http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/un-treaties/227997-senate-gears-up-for-law-of-the-sea-treaty-push

“The Senate Foreign Relations Committee has scheduled a hearing next week on the decades-old international Law of the Sea Treaty, confirming the Senate’s desire to try again for ratification after failing five years ago.

The treaty is championed by the State and Defense departments, which argue that the treaty would create a new legal framework for the peaceful resolution of territorial disputes. It has already been signed by more than 160 countries.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Martin Dempsey are all slated to testify Wednesday, underscoring that ratification is a priority for the administration. The Senate is expected to take it up this summer.”

Just think what Obama will do in his second term...


20 posted on 05/20/2012 10:56:45 AM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Obama and Reid’s plan to drive this POS down America’s throats after the election in the next “lame duck” session!


21 posted on 05/20/2012 10:58:25 AM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: All

Obama Seeks Sovereignty Surrender Via LOST Treaty

http://news.investors.com/article/610769/201205081849/obama-pushes-law-of-the-sea-treaty.htm

“Sovereignty: Even if he’s not re-elected, the president hopes to leave behind a treaty giving a U.N. body veto power over the use of our territorial waters and to which we’d be required to give half of our offshore oil revenue.

The Law Of The Sea Treaty (LOST) has been lurking in the shadows for decades. Like the Kyoto Protocol that pretended to be an effort to save the earth from the poisoned fruit of the Industrial Revolution, LOST pretends to be an effort to protect the world’s oceans from environmental damage and remove it as a cause of potential conflicts between nations.

Like its Kyoto cousin, LOST is an attempt at the global redistribution of power and wealth, the embodiment of the progressive dream of the end of the nation state as we know it and the end of political freedom by giving veto over all of mankind’s activities to a global body — in this case something called the International Seabed Authority, located in Kingston, Jamaica.”


22 posted on 05/20/2012 10:59:40 AM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: Innovative

I might not question a “real” fireman... but if some guy on a bicycle wearing a black suit and tie starts to run in with a can of gasoline, I might.


23 posted on 05/20/2012 11:02:18 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. and the economy died.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Stay out of the POTUS race if you want; but work hard for other candidates.

Living in Texas, I have the luxury of voting third-party (right now the Ailurophile Party has some appeal, as does the Universal Janitors Party) and not having to worry about Obozo ever taking this great State -- hey, that's a large part of why Texas is great! -- but you can bet I'll be trying to help the down-ticket races. As time goes by, we'll need either more re-migration homewards of the Mexican hosts, or a lot of voter education.

I recently was redistricted out of Sheila Jackson Lee's district into that of Rep. Ted Poe, who is one of the best congresscritters in the Lone Star delegation, and my state rep (a Tejana liberal Dim) also went away, replaced by an energetic young Republican. To say I was deliriously happy when I finally read my new voter-registration card is to understate the obvious!

24 posted on 05/20/2012 11:02:25 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: knarf

Well, it is kind of hard when RINOs take more consultation advice from him than Bill Clinton would...

Bill Clinton insisted he had “no relationship” with Obama and had been consulted more frequently by his presidential successor, George W. Bush.

http://www.twopeasinabucket.com/mb.asp?cmd=display&forum_id=0&thread_id=3169673

“we want you to be successful”, “Islam is peace”


25 posted on 05/20/2012 11:04:36 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Innovative

According to our Constitution a treaty must first be approved by the senate before a President can sign it.


26 posted on 05/20/2012 11:05:58 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: tumblindice

Well, it is kind of hard when RINOs take more consultation advice from him than Bill Clinton would...

Bill Clinton insisted he had “no relationship” with Obama and had been consulted more frequently by his presidential successor, George W. Bush.

http://www.twopeasinabucket.com/mb.asp?cmd=display&forum_id=0&thread_id=3169673

“we want you to be successful”, “Islam is peace”


Boehner, Romney, Bush, all affable RINO hypocrites who submit to the actor powers of those that beat them in looks or media prop submission...


27 posted on 05/20/2012 11:07:05 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Innovative
Just think what Obama will do in his second term...

Even if he gets one -- not much. Not after we get through with his Senate golfing buddies.

That's why he's pushing LOST forward now, to beat us to the punch. Well, guess what, folks -- get busy!

28 posted on 05/20/2012 11:07:37 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Innovative
Every American who loves this country should watch this short video (about 4 minutes). If this UN treaty get signed, it is, literally, all over for this country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmA3ilFFGt0&list=UUPkuXB5CZJIVerREXE-81tw&index=8&feature=plcp

29 posted on 05/20/2012 11:09:38 AM PDT by Jerrybob (Truth -- the new hate speech.)
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To: tumblindice

Vote for Obama then,but even my liberal associates are waking up; not so much you, or unless your a liberal in sheep’s clothing. Good day idiot.


30 posted on 05/20/2012 11:10:49 AM PDT by Joshua Marcus
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To: Innovative

requires a 2/3rds affirmation from the Senate.

Not going to happen.


31 posted on 05/20/2012 11:12:39 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
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To: tumblindice

LOL

That’s a swell animation.


32 posted on 05/20/2012 11:14:18 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
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To: Innovative

God Bless Ronald Reagan, he fired them all.

“.......And in addition to establishing and having to deal with still another U.N. agency,.....”

That’s part of the goal right there to establish another of the many tenticles of the large as the World monster known as the U.N. in creating World governance.

The U.N. has to be stopped even if it takes drastic actions.


33 posted on 05/20/2012 11:16:14 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Innovative

The Boy Emperor can sign all of the treaties he wants.
Congress has to ratify them, before they become binding.


34 posted on 05/20/2012 11:17:48 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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To: RedMonqey

“Obama acan sign any thing he wishes but it’s worthless without the Senate’s consent.”


Thanks to an ignorant public (due to decades of union infested public schools), a willing accomplice in the MSM, presidents since Woodrow Wilson have been violating the constitution and usurping much of the Senate’s power via Executive Orders.

The dark lord has no problem running this country like a banana republic dictatorship with one Executive order after another. The vast majority of these EOs have noting to due with the Executive branch are all most exclusively the privy of the Congress. But who cares? The man can read a mean teleprompter.


35 posted on 05/20/2012 11:19:48 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: Innovative

That was during a Congressional majority.

This has to pass the Senate and the split is 51/47.

Not going to ever come close to attaining 2/3rds of Senators voting in the affirmative.


36 posted on 05/20/2012 11:20:20 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
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To: Innovative

That was during a Congressional majority.

This has to pass the Senate and the split is 51/47.

Not going to ever come close to attaining 2/3rds of Senators voting in the affirmative.


37 posted on 05/20/2012 11:20:29 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
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To: Innovative
This is what you get with Obama -- can we afford four more years?!

It will require the help of some RINO's but I fear he will have plenty of them to help. People need longer memories, this is a New World Order objective of long standing. I am pretty sure GW signed this cr@p as well, and even our beloved Sarah was for it, at least in the past.

38 posted on 05/20/2012 11:21:13 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period.)
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To: Innovative

Half of this site is voting for Obama for a second term, it can’t be that bad.


39 posted on 05/20/2012 11:21:55 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Innovative
“The U.S. Navy maintains that we need LOST to guarantee free transit in dangerous waters, such as in the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran has threatened to block, and in the South China Sea which is dominated by China. Yet freedom of navigation has been recognized under international law for centuries. It was policed by the British Navy over 400 years, and by ours since 1775. Since the U.N. has no navy, it will still be up to us to continue this role.”

Can some Navy person explain why the U.S. Navy supports this BS. Why the hell does the US Navy want some foreign body determining where we can and cannot sail?

40 posted on 05/20/2012 11:22:41 AM PDT by Chgogal (WSJ, Coulter, Kristol, Krauthammer, Rove et al., STFU. Thank you.)
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To: Joshua Marcus; tumblindice; Admin Moderator

Whoa! nOOb!

Not cool being new to the neighborhood and going all in with the personal attacks.


41 posted on 05/20/2012 11:23:12 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
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To: Innovative

Every Single Decision Obama makes is meant to harm America.


42 posted on 05/20/2012 11:24:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The so-called 'mainstream' media has gone from "biased" straight to "utterly surreal".)
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To: BuffaloJack

LOL, I believe the Senate has co-equal power in Foreign relations and a 2/3rds vote, in the affirmative of those present is required to ratify.


43 posted on 05/20/2012 11:24:43 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
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To: Joshua Marcus; tumblindice
If you attack tumblindice, you attack me.

You do NOT want to attack me.

44 posted on 05/20/2012 11:25:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The so-called 'mainstream' media has gone from "biased" straight to "utterly surreal".)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I’m totally frustrated in Florida! We are dealing with Bill Nelson(D) who at this point will win another term handily because we can not come up with anyone to run against him who has enough clout or money to take him down. The GOP-e has thrown us Connie Mack(R) who is a useless playboy. George LeMiux is not horrible, but he has past baggage that turns folks off. The other guys are all nice but no gravitas. We are screwed! We need help here and fast, worst is no one is talking about it. We have to take the Senate over to make a difference in these garbage bills and treaty’s getting rejected.


45 posted on 05/20/2012 11:25:40 AM PDT by marygam (#Hurry November 2012, we might not make it#)
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To: GlockThe Vote

I’m voting for him but only because my vote here in KahLeeFahwNeeYuh doesn’t matter.

/S


46 posted on 05/20/2012 11:26:08 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
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To: Chgogal

“The U.S. Navy maintains that we need LOST to guarantee free transit in dangerous waters”

WHO in the US Navy?! I don’t believe this either.


47 posted on 05/20/2012 11:28:05 AM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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To: Lazamataz; Joshua Marcus; tumblindice

All we need is Humblegunner for a Quorum and it’s over.


48 posted on 05/20/2012 11:28:25 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live athrough it anyway)
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To: BuffaloJack

People are forgetting what Obama has already gotten through the Congress.

Do we really trust Congress to turn this down?

I don’t.

In fact I don’t trust them at all.

Has one of them asked for Obama’s school records, his Social security card, His draft card? Has one of them spoken to Joe Aripaio about the counterfeit Birth Certificate. What have they done about Obama’s recess appointments. ,The EPA regulations against coal. against Obamacare.

Trust Congress to do the right thing?

Not me .


49 posted on 05/20/2012 11:29:05 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Chgogal

“The U.S. Navy maintains that we need LOST to guarantee free transit in dangerous waters”

I think I found the answer - Obama appointed the Sec of Navy, so he naturally supports him.

Obama Taps Mabus for Navy Secretary

“Mabus, 60, is a Democrat who served as governor from 1988 to 1992 and was President Bill Clinton’s ambassador to Saudi Arabia. A Democrat, Mabus endorsed Obama before the 2008 primary season and campaigned extensively on his behalf. “

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/03/27/obama_taps_mabus_for_navy_secr.html


50 posted on 05/20/2012 11:30:36 AM PDT by Innovative (None are so blind that will not see.)
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