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Biden's Words Fall on Deaf Ears in Ohio
Townhall.com ^ | May 20, 2012 | Salena Zito

Posted on 05/20/2012 4:30:07 AM PDT by Kaslin

YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio – Dave Betras is known in “The Valley” for his colorful language and his political antics and drama. Last Wednesday, however, when Vice President Joe Biden visited a local industrial park, Betras was all about numbers.

“Oh, the valley is going to turn out big for Barack Obama this year, big!” he said, spreading his arms wide for emphasis. The chairman of Mahoning County’s Democrats pointed to the shipping warehouse of M7 Technologies, a local manufacturer, filled with people waiting to hear Biden speak. “Turn-out like today, a full room,” Betras, 52, said.

If his job is to turn out Obama supporters on Election Day, he may want to check on their allegiances before he buses them to the polls. Many of the Youngstown attendees at Biden’s event do not support him or the president.

Bob McClain and his wife, Myra, went to M7 Technologies to support their friend’s family business. Neither supports the Obama-Biden ticket.

“We are friends of the owners – that is why we came, to show support for the Garvey family,” said McClain. At 71, he’s retired but volunteers full-time as a counselor for Mahoning Valley small-business owners.

“Our vote is going for who is best to lead on the economy. That is Romney, for us,” said Myra as her husband nodded.

Richard Furillo stood with his son Matthew at his son’s place of employment; a lifelong Democrat, he voted for Obama in 2008 but won’t again. “I don't know why I did it but I cannot stand anymore ‘change,’ ” he said, referring to the president’s old campaign slogan.

Father and son both said they attended the event to support the company.

“This is a once-in-a-lifetime chance to see a sitting vice president,” added Matthew, also a Democrat. He, too, said he will vote for Romney.

Standing beside them, Jeff Cunningham echoed their sentiments: “The biggest challenge in this country is creating jobs that last, jobs that sustain families.” The 36-year-old valley native said his vote will be for Romney.

Montgomery “Monty” Deruyter sat several rows from where Biden stood, addressing the crowd. The 43-year-old father of two started working at M7 as a machinist two months ago; uncertainty is driving him to favor Romney.

“I hold both parties at arm’s length but trust Romney’s business skills to lead on the economy,” he said.

They were only five of more than a score of people interviewed who said they will not vote for Obama in November; they were the audience members not captured by TV cameras, who sat respectfully during Biden’s 30-minute populist speech while the party faithful – gathered up and bused in by Betras – leaped up every time Biden’s voice pitched several decibels.

Even then, discontent was voiced among those faithful – and worry that some of the community have no reason to vote for the president next fall.

Joe Louis Teague, 70, a black community icon who has run several failed campaigns for local office, is in charge of coordinating the Obama campaign’s voter registration in the Mahoning Valley. He is worried about the black vote because “people are discouraged.”

Black-on-black crime is out of control; drugs and poor parenting are at the heart of that problem, he said.

“I am going to be honest, I think he could have done more,” he said of the first black president’s attention to the black community. “I think he needs to do more.”

As Biden switched between fiery class-warfare rhetoric and whispers about his upbringing in neighboring Pennsylvania, two things stood out: no mention of coal or Marcellus shale natural gas – the resources that are bringing prosperity back to this region – and his rhetoric about middle-class resentment.

“They don’t get it! They don’t get who we are!” he shouted after one pitch about how Republicans don't understand the little guy in places such as Ohio and Pennsylvania.

That’s an interesting take from Biden, considering Obama's “understanding” of those same gun- and Bible-clinging embittered voters that he famously described at a high-dollar San Francisco fundraiser in 2008.

It probably is why last week’s Quinnipiac poll showed only one percentage point advantage for Barack Obama over Mitt Romney in the Buckeye State.


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1 posted on 05/20/2012 4:30:10 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

WHY the HELL do Democrats have to BUS in people??? Republicans wouldn;t THINK of doing it, and NO self respecting Republican would get ON the bus!


2 posted on 05/20/2012 4:32:35 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kaslin

Dear Liberals and Conservatives: It’s the Economy.

We need to cool it on anything else. At the local and Congressional level get the most conservative candidate you can. Evict Obama and get the economy moving and the rest of your agenda is fine with America.


3 posted on 05/20/2012 4:43:30 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Ann Archy

Because at its root, the Democrat is the “GIMME MINE” party. They have to bus people in because if they don’t, they won’t show up. And there better be a free lunch on that bus.


4 posted on 05/20/2012 4:44:19 AM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Ann Archy

I suppose Democrats get on the bus because they want to see what it is like.
They are so used to being tossed under the Obama bus they do it just to be different.


5 posted on 05/20/2012 4:45:26 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Ann Archy
"WHY the HELL do Democrats have to BUS in people???

If you don't know where your going or why or going there and someone offers you lunch money, you get on the bus.

6 posted on 05/20/2012 4:46:13 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Ann Archy
Ha ha. You've never been to a union demonstration, have you? Here is how it works:

1. Assemble at the Union Hall and lubricate the crowd at the bar.

2. Show them the cases of beer stacked beside the buses.

3. Load the cases on the buses.

4. Open the doors to the buses and watch the crowd follow the beer.

5. Drive the crowd to the demo.

Do you understand now?

7 posted on 05/20/2012 4:47:01 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: 1010RD

Bump


8 posted on 05/20/2012 4:50:07 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
I got myself tickled the other day, when some members of the left tried to equate Mitt Romney to being some boring Ward Cleaver (Leave It To Beaver). I asked myself "Does this make Obama Eddie Haskel? And who is Biden? Lumpy"?
9 posted on 05/20/2012 4:53:55 AM PDT by LRS ("How many fingers, Winston?")
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To: mosaicwolf
"WHY the HELL do Democrats have to BUS in people???

Because 50% of the people are used to having everything done for them, which is why we're in this mess in the first place.

10 posted on 05/20/2012 4:56:05 AM PDT by Reo (the 4th Estate is a 5th Column)
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To: Ronin

The Democrats have turned into a “GIMME YOURS” party.....they’ve gone way beyond “GIMME MINE”.


11 posted on 05/20/2012 5:06:33 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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The admitted plagiarist at Syracuse University's law school is still lying:

Joe Biden told the bused-in audience:

"I am the first one in my family to ever go to college!"

- But that too is just another lie from "Ol' Funny Joe"


12 posted on 05/20/2012 5:13:34 AM PDT by devolve (------ ---- ---------toss_subhumans_in_Hannibal*s_wild_boar_pit----------- ---------------------)
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To: 1010RD

Gold Star post for the day !


13 posted on 05/20/2012 5:15:50 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Best reporter in the Ohio and Pennesylvinia area...Fox news should pick her up for the election..
14 posted on 05/20/2012 5:26:30 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Ohio ping


15 posted on 05/20/2012 5:32:59 AM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others provide citations.)
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To: Kaslin

Good article. Alhough, no mention that only dolphins can understand what Biden is talking about. :)


16 posted on 05/20/2012 5:37:27 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: Kaslin

I saw TV coverage of Biden’s speech .... it was nonsense. He sounded drunk to me. Does Bite-me have a drinking problem ?


17 posted on 05/20/2012 5:39:41 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: devolve

The ‘Lie’; and Narcissism; are the bedrock of religious Liberalism.


18 posted on 05/20/2012 5:49:40 AM PDT by cricket (Calling Marco Rubio; Allen West. . Newt. Because they are NOT afraid.)
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To: layman

He must have


19 posted on 05/20/2012 5:50:12 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; BlindedByTruth; ...
Special thanks to OneLoyalAmerican for the ping!


Ohio Ping!

To be added to the Ohio Ping List, please freepmail,
(the three of us), Flutters, Whenifhow, and LasVegasDave.

20 posted on 05/20/2012 6:09:08 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("All 57 states, or is it 58, must stand together and defeat O-bozo! VOTE the usurper out!!")
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Madam HITLARY is waiting for her chance to pounce on Biteme Biden..
21 posted on 05/20/2012 6:13:09 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("All 57 states, or is it 58, must stand together and defeat O-bozo! VOTE the usurper out!!")
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To: layman
He sounded drunk to me. Does Bite-me have a drinking problem ?

Nope. He doesn't spill a drop.
22 posted on 05/20/2012 6:45:13 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: 1010RD
At the local and Congressional level get the most conservative candidate you can.

Given that our next President is either going to be Obama or Romney, this is probably the best of our remaining options.

23 posted on 05/20/2012 6:47:38 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (With choices like Palin, Cain, and Bachmann, what could go wrong? Now we know.)
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To: Ann Archy

DemonRats have a fetish for forced-busing.


24 posted on 05/20/2012 6:54:54 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: LRS

No, Biden is Larry Mondello.


25 posted on 05/20/2012 6:56:25 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Reo

Loading up a bus with beer and chips and driving past democrat party headquarters is the equal of dragging a c note through a trailer park.


26 posted on 05/20/2012 6:57:32 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Kaslin

Some Freeper should follow Biden around on his campaign stops to shout “YOU LIE!” during his nonsensical speeches. That’d be entertaining.


27 posted on 05/20/2012 6:57:51 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: layman

“Does Bite-me have a drinking problem ?”

In his case I would recogmend it.


28 posted on 05/20/2012 7:04:26 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: Leep

oops..
recommend


29 posted on 05/20/2012 7:06:00 AM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: layman

30 posted on 05/20/2012 7:10:17 AM PDT by sunny48 (America, home of the offended)
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To: Ann Archy

And when republicans do get a good turnout for any event, the dems accuse them of bussing them in.


31 posted on 05/20/2012 7:31:02 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: devolve

Alot of plagiarists in the democrat party.

And fake auto-bios.
And fake claims to ancestral lineage.
And fake bios of relatives.
And fake credentials.


32 posted on 05/20/2012 7:34:38 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: layman

Actually, Biden’s three brain cells (aka Curly, Larry and Moe) are wont to get out of synch from time to time.


33 posted on 05/20/2012 7:50:09 AM PDT by Noumenon (If people saw socialists for what they truly are, slaughter would ensue - in self-defense.)
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To: Kaslin
LOL sounds like DRS owner and CEO pumping sunshine up you know where 6 months before he decides to lay off permanently over 3/4 of the work force and shutting down contracts to sell portions off t overseas companies !

We all didn't trust him and he couldn't figure out why CEO's may be great with some numbers but when it comes to the intuition of people most don't have a clue

34 posted on 05/20/2012 9:10:19 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (Any man may make a mistake ; none but a fool will persist in it . { Latin proverb })
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To: Leep

Dolphins laugh at Biden, then ignore him....


35 posted on 05/20/2012 9:24:10 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: Kaslin
“This is a once-in-a-lifetime chance to see a sitting vice president,” added Matthew

I'd be interested to have Matthew how his life was enhanced by that moment. A tingle in the leg perhaps?

There's supposed to be an odd tombstone in Massachusetts that reads:
Here lie the bodies of James and John Jones.
One went to sea
The other became Vice President
Neither were ever heard from again

36 posted on 05/20/2012 9:59:14 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s interesting how a Democrat usually votes purely on emotion verses a Conservative that will usually vote based on a degree of logic.

It appears there were some independents in that sample too that look like they will break for Romney this time.


37 posted on 05/20/2012 10:17:00 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: Kaslin
“They don’t get it! They don’t get who we are!”

Sorry old Joe, we do get who the hell you are and that is why you will be fired. Yelling will not do a damn bit of good.

38 posted on 05/20/2012 10:23:20 AM PDT by JRochelle (Note to the MSM: Unemployment has been higher under every month of Obama than any month under Bush.)
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To: layman
Maybe he has Brain tapeworms.
39 posted on 05/20/2012 10:44:19 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Oatka

Heck, a few weeks ago Zero gave a stump speech about a mile from my apartment, and a couple of my friends were all a-twitter about getting to see the president. I made plans to be elsewhere that day!


40 posted on 05/20/2012 10:51:20 AM PDT by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: sthguard
Heck, a few weeks ago Zero gave a stump speech about a mile from my apartment, and a couple of my friends were all a-twitter about getting to see the president.

Some years back, a politician with a sense of humor was asked why he always tried to be the Grand Marshal in a parade. He replied that when a circus comes to town, everybody wants to see the clown.

41 posted on 05/20/2012 11:40:48 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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Keep FR Running
Let's get to Yellow!

42 posted on 05/20/2012 11:54:44 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Ronin
And there better be a free lunch on that bus.

Yes, and don't ask them to clean up the trash they leave behind when they're finished eating that free lunch either.

43 posted on 05/20/2012 12:46:37 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Oatka
Joe Biden would be doing the country a service if he were to model his Vice Presidency on that of Alexander Throttlebottom.

I never realized it was such a big deal to see a sitting Vice President. I've seen two men who at the time were former Vice Presidents (Nixon, G.H.W. Bush) and one who was a future Vice President (Cheney), but none who was in office at the time.

44 posted on 05/20/2012 1:42:18 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: sthguard
Heck, a few weeks ago Zero gave a stump speech about a mile from my apartment, and a couple of my friends were all a-twitter about getting to see the president. I made plans to be elsewhere that day!

My niece in Toledo got a photo taken of herself with Obama the week he ran into Joe the Plumber. She is a staunch democrat and her husband a staunch republican (good for him). Toledo is a strong union city and customarily votes according to what their unions tell them to do.

45 posted on 05/20/2012 1:51:23 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Col Frank Slade

“Dolphins laugh at Biden, then ignore him....”

That is likely true because dolphin are smart. Whereas Biden is a big dummy.
Also, Dolphin are not plagiarist.


46 posted on 05/20/2012 2:11:01 PM PDT by Leep (Enemy of the Statist)
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To: Kaslin

they were the audience members not captured by TV cameras, who sat respectfully during Biden’s 30-minute populist speech while the party faithful – gathered up and bused in by Betras – leaped up every time Biden’s voice pitched several decibels.

Triumph of the Will


47 posted on 05/20/2012 2:12:18 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: 1010RD

AMEN to that, it is STILL THE ECONOMY that is to be the MAIN FOCUS.


48 posted on 05/20/2012 2:34:24 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Correct and it really always has been. Imagine that we consistently had a conservative governor and statehouse in 26/50 states over the last century. That’s local politics, but with national implications. Those conservatives could have fought for state’s rights, given a bad name over unConstitutional racially biased laws, and perhaps we could have kept the Leviathan in check. Imagine a FedGov half to a third the size we have now with less than a tenth of its regulatory power.

The SCOTUS will also be critical. We have to keep control of the thoughtspace no matter who is POTUS. I believe that Romney is the better choice right now, but electing conservatives from dog catcher to governor will do more to ensure liberty than fretting over Romney’s RINOism.


49 posted on 05/20/2012 5:02:14 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Kaslin
Black-on-black crime is out of control; drugs and poor parenting are at the heart of that problem, he said.

“I am going to be honest, I think he could have done more,” he said of the first black president’s attention to the black community. “I think he needs to do more.”

Yes, Obama had a rare opportunity to improve the lot of the black community but gave it up for political advantage.

But honestly he probably never recognized it after a life time of indoctrination by the likes of Rev. Wright in the philosophy of Black Liberation Theology.

What Obama could have done is spoke truth to power (Black Power) as the Democrats are fond of saying. He could have told the black community that they are destroying their own future, that blaming whitey does nothing to improve their lot, that black men making babies with multiple women that they have no intention of marrying or babies that they have neither the ability or the desire to raise will not improve the black community and will only make their lives worse.

He could have told the black community that none of these things is the fault of the white race and that the responsibility to change these things is entirely that of the black community and that only the black community can change these things.

But Obama is completely happy with things the way they are because all of these things keep the black community at home on the Democratic Plantation voting for Democrats 90% of the time.

These are things that a charismatic black leader needs to say to the black community. These are things that the black community needs to hear and things that they need to do something about. But Obama “the First Black President” has abdicated this responsibility and has missed the opportunity. The First Black President is coming to the end of his tenure as president having done less than nothing for his core constituency. The First Black President will leave office having only made things worse for his people; that is all of his people.

50 posted on 05/20/2012 5:46:52 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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