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Oppose Obama by neutering him with a strong conservative congress. It truly saddens me to see Newt and Santorum to capitulate to the devil.

In another posting to me you wrote: "...better to deal with a recognizable evil in Mr. Obama and to use him to get a firm grip, with conservative Republicans, on both the House and Senate.”

What you are telling this forum is that conservatives should not oppose Obama and in fact let Obama win and surrender the Presidential election of 2012 to Obama!!

Without any historical precedent you believe a conservative opposition will rise to counteract all that Obama's executive branch can do.

You fail to remember a solidly (R) House in 1998 who impeached a sitting President and 56 (R) Senators who failed to convict him, and that same President who appointed Justices Breyer and Ginzberg to the USSC, and a host of liberal judges to the Districts.

The next President may have as many as 3 appointments. I don't happen to like Romney much myself, but after having made Sotomyor and Kagan appointments, you hate Romney so much, that you want Obama to make possibly 3 more USSC justice appointments, do you?

Posting that you’re content to deal with Obama for the next 4 years while the whole rest of the Forum is working to actively defeat Obama -- and this, while you hope for some pie-in-the-sky opposition to him to emerge, to grow, to survive and to effectively oppose Obama -- is simply naive.

(R)’s work best with (R)’s, and (D)’s work best with (D)’s. If you can’t understand that basic fact, your mind is simply not the most fertile for formulation of and mounting of successful conservative electoral opposition strategy.

Your obligation is to vote actively, not sit passively.

He who gets the most votes wins. If you do not vote, your passive non-vote will have merely elected the winner by default. You appear to be content to elect Obama by default.

If your self-righteousness leads to your expressing hope for Obama to win, as you have done here, all I can say is there is no hope for you in conservatism, and one could not be faulted in wondering where you true sympathies lie.

Know this: Obama has successfully co-opted your support in its passivity, but he doesn't really care what you think or what manner of self-righteousness informs you. Any crafty politician will take his support from where ever he can get it.

You have been Alinsky-ed. You have willfully surrendered opposition to Obama. David Axelrod is surely pleased.

You're as good as reduced to carrying a placard which reads: "Self-rightous for Obama."

In you he has exactly what he wants -- a neutralized opposition that won't fight him and in fact an "opposition" that hopes Obama wins.

And Obama will thank you for that passively co-opted support all the way to voting booth.

FReegards!

Without any historical precedent you believe a conservative opposition will rise to counteract all that Obama's executive branch can do.

The precedent occurred with the spontaneous rise of the TEA party, followed by the 2010 election.

You might want to research how the gopE then went after them, the newly elected conservatives! That should be a clue what their game really is.

The gopE should pay you for you're giving them for free.

Regardless, it won't matter how the few principled conservatives vote.

obama is done. Anyone who runs against him will beat him...too bad for us that means Romney.

“What you are telling this forum is that conservatives should not oppose Obama and in fact let Obama win and surrender the Presidential election of 2012 to Obama!!”

No, you have not correctly characterized what I have written. So, again I will reiterate it and use small words so even you can understand it. Although, I doubt you are capable, or even have the integrity to try.

I am saying that Obama is evil, and recognizeably so. I am also saying that Romney is equally evil, but in ways not so easy to recognize...as you prove by your support of him. Neither man should occupy of the office of POTUS. Romney will be NO better than Obama, and in fact may be worse.

I think REAL conservatives should refuse to support Romney. He is NOT conservative, he is an active member of a psuedo-Christian cult that wants to dominate the country and suppress real Christianity, he was a terrible governor in Mass., he has lied, cheated, an bought this nomination and is the pawn of the GOPe. He WAS FORCED on true conservatives, by a GOPe that doesn’t give a rip what the conservative (Ronald Reagan) base of the party thinks or wants. His presence has created a no win scenario.

Obama is a recognizeable evil that the GOP members of congress are compeled to oppose. IF Romney were to be elected, I know he would pursue policies, different, but just as bad as Obama’s. However, the GOP members of congress would be compeled to support him even when he is wrong. For instance, he WILL NOT appoint true conservatives to the SCOTUS no more than he did in MASS.

After four years of Romney, the brand of Republican will be ruined for decades...even though he is NOT conservative.

However, Obama’s continued presence, though horific, will galvanize the GOP opposition. It will, I believe, get more conservative members elected to the House and Senate in 2012 and more so in 2014. Obama WILL be essentially castrated and put in check. Whereas, a Romney will cost us seats in 2014...and may even during this current election because he so disgusts the base.

I NEVER seek have “pie in the sky” as you accuse falsely. I seek a rational opportunity for change and reform. We will NEVER get it by supporting the GOPe candidate Romney.

I propose that REAL conservative don’t vote for Romney. Either leave the ballot blank in that part or pick a conservative third party (should there be one) and vote that. However, I consider a vote for Romney as a vote for the destruction of conservatism and for the continued empowerement of the GOPe.

TRUE conservatives should distance themselves from Romney, and only support conservative candidates for House and Senate. By taking control of the Congress we control the country and put Obama in check...and help rid the GOPe of their power. That isn’t “pie in the sky.”

What Agamemnon is NOT telling the forum is how he threatened me that “I would be banished” by Jim Robinson because I oppose the ABO nonsense (Cyanide Koolaid) that he and others are drinking out of a desparation fear of Obama.

They are letting their fear override their sense of principle...if they ever had any. Bottom line is that Romney is to be opposed just as Obama is. It is OPPOSSING OBAMA TO OPPOSE ROMNEY....they are the same thing. Both are poison, just one is Belladonna the other Cyanide. Either way you are dead.