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To: Fitzy_888

I have to agree with the judge, easily, on this one.

One heck of a lot of our civil rights were lost with the Patriot Act and associated legislation. In wartime, for a brief while, understandable.

But what is intolerable is when you see that the vast majority of these “anti-terrorism” laws have *not* been applied against terrorists by the 100+ federal police and 16 major US intelligence agencies; but *only* against American citizens not even suspected of having any involvement in terrorism at all.

And they are being applied not *just* by the federals, but by state and local police as well.

Truthfully, there is zero relation between terrorism and a SWAT team breaking down your door without a warrant, shooting your dog, scaring your family half to death and trashing your house because you did not pay a traffic fine you didn’t even know you owed.

Except it is the government that is acting like terrorists.

This NDAA crapola is just the latest abuse. If anyone thinks that this would be used exclusively, or even a lot, against terrorists, you are fooling yourself. Whoever it would be used against, it would mean the US Army breaking down their door and arresting them, just because some scoundrel like Attorney General Holder doesn’t like them.

Terrorists are not impacted at all when authoritarian laws are used against Americans. The only beneficiaries of such laws are government bureaucrats obsessed with the desire to have power and control over their fellow citizens.


5 posted on 05/16/2012 7:32:22 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
One heck of a lot of our civil rights were lost with the Patriot Act and associated legislation. In wartime, for a brief while, understandable.

But what is intolerable is when you see that the vast majority of these “anti-terrorism” laws have *not* been applied against terrorists by the 100+ federal police and 16 major US intelligence agencies; but *only* against American citizens not even suspected of having any involvement in terrorism at all.


Besides the fact that it's being used against Americans, the bigger problem is that our government declared war on a noun, "terror", and that means we are going to be at war forever. FOREVER.

If anyone thinks that this would be used exclusively, or even a lot, against terrorists, you are fooling yourself.

Amen! Everybody forgets that liberals consider a lot of gun owners to be potential terrorists!
7 posted on 05/16/2012 7:41:03 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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Federal Judge Enjoins Section 1021 - FY2012 NDAA - [Blocking indefinite detention of US citizens]

Article, then # 5 , # 6 .

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12 posted on 05/17/2012 8:50:08 AM PDT by LucyT
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