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Fox News Analyst: First American To Shoot Down A Domestic Spy Drone 'Will Become A Folk Hero'
Business Insider ^ | 5/15/2012 | Michael Brendan Dougherty

Posted on 05/15/2012 1:38:34 PM PDT by JohnKinAK

Charles Krauthammer, the conservative columnist spoke about the use of drones for domestic spying last night.

He blasted the idea:

"A drone is a high-tech version of an old army. It ought to be used in Somalia to hunt bad guys but not in America. Yes you can say we have satellites, we have Google Street, we have everything else, but that is no reason to accept a society where you are always watched by the government.

"I would predict the first guy who uses a second amendment weapon to bring a drone down who is hovering over his house will become a folk hero."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-analyst-first-american-to-shoot-down-a-domestic-spy-drone-will-become-a-folk-hero-2012-5#ixzz1uyNlHG00

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012election; banglist; cwii; dontspyonme; donttreadonme; drone; election2012; kenyanbornmuzzie; krauthammer; lping; mittromney; shoot
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To: MrB

Infrared and microwave radar. believe it.


61 posted on 05/15/2012 3:24:15 PM PDT by Kozak (The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: Steely Tom
First person to shoot down a spy drone from a R/C helicopter will become a folk hero who is not in jail.

A shoot down is unlikely, but a kamikaze collision would be possible!

62 posted on 05/15/2012 3:30:45 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: RandallFlagg
I don't know if that's real. I just put 200 rounds out of my Kahr CW45 this morning at the range. You'd think that that itty-bitty copter would show a bit more recoil effect. At LEAST a bit of rifling twist when fired.
Ever fly one of those in a slight wind?

I've only flown an R/C heli for a few minutes, and then with a "buddy box" controller attached so I didn't turn it into a pile of debris. That was 20 years ago and it was, IIRC, powered by a .40 glow engine. The copter in the video is a lot larger, powered by a spark-ignition (string trimmer) motor. I'd bet it has a stabilizing gyro to take the edge off of the gun's recoil. Yeah, I think it's real.

There's another guy out there that has a bigger bird that carrys an AA-12 aloft, though it looks extremely unstable.

R/C and guns - a pairing that was inevitable.

63 posted on 05/15/2012 3:32:58 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: JRandomFreeper
"And be arrested and thrown under the jail when the last image from the drone is John Doe pointing a shotgun at the drone."

Maybe not, if he's naked except for wearing a wig of long dreadlocks and cool shades while using one of those AK-47-looking shotguns. [Have to live in the boonies to appreciate that one.]

;-)


64 posted on 05/15/2012 3:35:17 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: elcid1970
Kamikaze counterdrones. Would it work?

Theoretically speaking, probably. Depends on the size of the two vehicles and the closing speed. Impact would, hypothetically speaking, be enhanced (and quite a bit more entertaining) with some refined hydrocarbon-like substance on board the counterdrone in an easily breakable container.

But this is just an educational discussion about what people COULD do, without any advocacy of the same, so I guess that we'll never find out.

65 posted on 05/15/2012 3:42:25 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: Charles Martel
I dunno. I just keep thinking about James Bond flying Little Nellie from You Only Live Twice dropping those little bombs on tiny parachutes onto the enemy helicopters...

66 posted on 05/15/2012 4:02:10 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Look for the union label, then buy elsewhere.)
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To: JohnKinAK

A few months ago, one was shot down at a organized hunt in the southeast (SC?). Some PETA type of group delployed it, to see what the hunters were doing. Probably not best to target bird hunters with a drone. Anyone remember the details?


67 posted on 05/15/2012 4:07:06 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Theoria

There it is.... thanks.


68 posted on 05/15/2012 4:08:24 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: JohnKinAK

Might provide the inspiration for social clubs like the shooting clubs of a hundred years ago.


69 posted on 05/15/2012 4:10:08 PM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: JohnKinAK
One of these should do the trick:
70 posted on 05/15/2012 4:12:11 PM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: MrB
"He said they have the ability to see through walls. I’m not sure that I believe it all...

The Following was posted to youtube 2 years ago: See Through Walls Technology Xaver

Who wants to take bets that this tech (several generations later no doubt) is already installed into the Armed Forces surveillance drones?

71 posted on 05/15/2012 4:12:44 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: JohnKinAK
Assuming that one did manage to get a large drone - who want's to be responsible for the five-odd tons of metal and fuel plummeting to the ground over a residential area?
72 posted on 05/15/2012 4:13:26 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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To: CodeToad
Might have to get one of these. :)


73 posted on 05/15/2012 4:20:19 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Pox

I’m thinking electronic counter measures ie cause problems with the control signals or figure some way to cause sparks/short circuits on the control system circuit boards.

It’s silent & with the use of directional antennas it would be discreet as well. Gonna have to look up some of my old friend in the ham radio world.


74 posted on 05/15/2012 4:42:55 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: Political Junkie Too

>Drones are military equipment. Isn’t it a violation of Posse Comitatus to use drones over the United States against its citizens?

Posse Comitatus is a false sense of security; the Constitution gives the Congress the ability to use the militia to enforce laws {if you’re going to nit-pick, then they’ll use guardsmen; which are considered militia by statute (and some state Constitutions); plus they get the “plausible deniability” of “training them to go overseas”}.

Of course the above assumes they care enough to try to pretend like the Constitution means anything to them.


75 posted on 05/15/2012 5:01:34 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: MrB
but it is a huge 4th amendment issue

What's this 4th amendment thingy?

76 posted on 05/15/2012 5:22:18 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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To: Charles Martel

Wow, did you see the recoil pushing the chopper back?


77 posted on 05/15/2012 5:23:15 PM PDT by wastedyears ("God? I didn't know he was signed onto the system.")
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To: JRandomFreeper

Comes a day when freedom for future generations is worth the consequences. If we keep worrying about being in jail, we will be in jail;)


78 posted on 05/15/2012 5:35:37 PM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: JohnKinAK; mkmensinger

Great idea.

Maybe someone can start HomeSAM a site that shows people how to build their own SAM systems.


79 posted on 05/15/2012 5:35:57 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: doorgunner69
Recall those tanks at Waco?

More tanks in Waco than in Somolia.

80 posted on 05/15/2012 5:36:07 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (The United States of America, a banana republic since 1913)
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