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Bush Solicitor General Ted Olson Hails Obama Gay Marriage Shift
The Daily Beast ^ | May 9 2012 | John Avlon

Posted on 05/10/2012 12:38:27 PM PDT by torchy

..."I am gratified that the president has thrown his personal support and the authority of the presidency behind the goal of justice, equality, and decency for all citizens," said Ted Olson, founder of the Federalist Society and former Bush administration solicitor general..

I called Olson on Wednesday to get the conservative legal leader's take on the North Carolina gay-marriage ban at the ballot and the way it sets up a Supreme Court showdown, possibly as early as 2013--no matter who is president.

Olson has stern words for his fellow conservatives who flooded the polls on Tuesday, making North Carolina the 30th state to enshrine a ban on gay marriage in its state constitution.

"It is very sad to me that people who belong to the party of Abraham Lincoln are resisting so strenuously the equality and decency and integrity and treatment of our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters," Olson said. "This seems to be one of the last major civil-rights battles of our country. And for people in our country to come out in numbers like this and say, ‘Well, we don't want the persons next door--who are decent, God-fearing, taxpaying, obeying-the-law citizens who simply want to have happiness like the rest of us'--to say ‘No, I have that right and you can't have it.' That just seems mean to me."..

This is a profile-in-courage moment for President Obama, but it comes with considerable political risks. The decision recalls a moment of White House history that came to light in the fourth volume of Robert Caro's LBJ biography. When cautioned by advisers that advancing civil rights might be moral but would not be politically pragmatic in 1964, the new president leaned back in his chair and said, "Well, what the hell's the presidency for?"...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: avlon; civilliberty; civilrights; homosexualagenda; law; legalscholarship; nolabels; olson; rino; tedolson; torched; zot; zotworthy
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To: torchy

Was Barbara just his beard?


61 posted on 05/10/2012 1:41:21 PM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: Zeppo

I’m smelling ozone.


62 posted on 05/10/2012 1:43:25 PM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: Zeppo

Actually, looks like he’s already gone.


63 posted on 05/10/2012 1:44:16 PM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: torchy

Nice name...

64 posted on 05/10/2012 1:44:42 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: B Knotts

just as it was gettin’ interesting .....


65 posted on 05/10/2012 1:44:58 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: B Knotts

Sometimes I enjoy playing with my food before I eat it.


66 posted on 05/10/2012 1:46:09 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Admin Moderator
LOL.

But I kind of wanted to play a little first ...


67 posted on 05/10/2012 1:49:45 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: ElectionInspector

This is a typical reaction on FR .
Olsen is a conservative ...he disagrees with you on this issue ....he agrees with Dick Cheney.....There is enough room for more than one opinion on this and other things


68 posted on 05/10/2012 1:50:06 PM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: kosciusko51
It has become abundantly clear that Barbara was both the driving force of conservatism and the brains in that couple.

Since her murder by muslim terrorists, Ted has wandered progressively further astray.

One must also wonder if perhaps he has fallen victim of the "silly old man syndrome" and hooked up with a younger, more liberal woman.
69 posted on 05/10/2012 1:50:55 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: torchy

You signed up TODAY, to post this?


70 posted on 05/10/2012 1:51:21 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

She was great, but I never liked him. Just something about him . . .


71 posted on 05/10/2012 1:54:14 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: Admin Moderator

This is one of those moments when I wish FR had a “Like” button! LOL!


72 posted on 05/10/2012 1:58:57 PM PDT by RMDupree (I'm not really here.)
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To: woofie
Olsen is a conservative ...he disagrees with you on this issue ....he agrees with Dick Cheney.....

Simply incorrect. Olsen argues that the Constitution, as of 1871, already required recognition of gay marriage, and therefore that state voters do not even get to weigh in on the matter.

Cheney believes that it IS up to a state-level vote (and has said he would vote in favor of it).

There is a huge difference between saying, "I favor it, but it doesn't matter because it's already in the Constitution" (Olsen and other whatever-I-want-is-constitutionally-required liberals) and saying "It's up to state voters, and I personally would vote yes" (Cheney).

There is nothing conservative about arguing that gay marriage was "already in the Constitution" as of 1871.

73 posted on 05/10/2012 1:59:19 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: pogo101

are you a lawyer?
Olsen is a lawyer and as I understand it one of the best.

Lawyers also disagree.
That does not make him a liberal.

My only ponit is on this board any non conformity is frowned on ,,,

Freedom means just that ...People are free to disagree,

Its healthier


74 posted on 05/10/2012 2:06:33 PM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: woofie

Well, “they agree” (Olsen and Cheney) on the POLICY issue, being pro-gay-marriage. That much is true. Most here on FR probably disagree. I don’t care very much so long as religions aren’t forced to accommodate it.

The two men DO NOT agree on the legal issue. Olsen’s prominence on this issue derives from his LEGAL (as opposed to POLICY) expertise. That is what I was rising to say earlier.

That being said, I agree with you that FR got a little flamey when Mitt was being imposed upon us, and it bothered me too. I was afraid I was going to be denounced!


75 posted on 05/10/2012 2:14:48 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: torchy

http://images.allmoviephoto.com/2004_You_Got_Served/2004_you_got_served_wallpaper_002.jpg

So long, chummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmP!
Back to the DUmp with you, hie and be gone.


76 posted on 05/10/2012 2:24:35 PM PDT by tumblindice (Put some ice on it Dick. La Raza is looking for a good lobbyist.)
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To: torchy

Satire, right???


77 posted on 05/10/2012 2:33:46 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Zeppo

Too late - he’s/she’s been zotted.


78 posted on 05/10/2012 2:35:25 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: SoldierDad

Good, their story was growing tiresome.


79 posted on 05/10/2012 2:36:42 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: torchy
it should be a states right...be prepared to have laws enacted making it legal for a daddy and dtr to marry, or two brothers, or a mother and her son, or a brother and his sister...

because if two homosexuals can "marry" than why not mommy and sonny?

all I really want is for the homosexuals to pay the marriage penalty tax....and have divorces proceedings, and custody battles....

I feel that most homosexuals will not want to actually "marry"....they just want us to know that its okay to do so....marriage would put a damper on their roaming the gay bars and public restrooms...

80 posted on 05/10/2012 2:44:47 PM PDT by cherry
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